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Old 04-14-2007, 10:31 AM
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Caroline of Monaco is styled HRH of Hanover because Royal Highnesses are greater in rank than Serene Highesses. However, the German Royalty is not recognized--just called as such for courtesy so her recognized/legal title still is Her Serene Highness Princess Caroline of Monaco though she is referred to as Her Royal Highness Caroline of Hanover in almost everything...right down to her stationery.
Caroline is styled "HRH Princess Caroline, Princess of Hanover". She holds superior rank and precedence to her husband, although his style as HRH is greater than HSH, because she is crown princess of Monaco. Ernst-August is former royalty in the German Republic and his British styles are not recognized by the Crown.
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Old 04-14-2007, 11:07 AM
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I suggested Juliana Guillermo before and we all talked about her then.
My apologies felica. I was relieved we didn't get the same old names.
We should cast our net wider for convertible Catholics so that the TRF "approved candidates list" offers William more choices.
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Old 04-14-2007, 11:12 AM
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What about three Prussian Princesses - Princess Beatrice Victoria, Princess Florence Jessica and Princess Augusta Lily? I think they are Protestant, live in London and are direct descendents of Queen Victoria and her first grandson the Kaiser. I hope it isn't a controversial suggestion, but I saw pictures of them and thought they were really pretty. The middle one Princess Florence bears a striking resemblance to myself actually.
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Old 04-14-2007, 11:43 AM
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There would be quite a few eligible Princesses of Prussia and Prinzesses von Preussen in the appropriate age bracket. There shouldn't be a problem with "acceptability" as Princess Antonia of Prussia married the Marquess of Douro, heir of the Duke of Wellington, without any fuss.
The tabloids would emphasise their descent from the Kaiser, while we would counter that argument with their descent from Queen Victoria.
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Old 04-14-2007, 11:56 AM
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Of course we all dream of a wedding between William and some noble woman. But he could the same way surprise us and decide to marry a DIVORCED COMMONER! Sounds horrible but after his parents were divorced and his father married a divorced woman (although he´s still the heir to the throne!) the Queen or his father might get problems in forbid him to do so. They won´t have arguments any more....
What's so bad about marrying a DIVORCED COMMONER?
Let's face it - Diana didn't work very fine in that royal family and she was as noble as they come. Camilla (who is, I believe, A DIVORCED COMMONER) seems to have an easier time with them.
Don't you think it's a matter of personality and character rather than marital state?
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Old 04-14-2007, 11:57 AM
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What about Beatrice Victoria von Preußen (* 10.02.1981) see here or her sister Florence Jessica von Preußen (* 29.07.1983) see here

The are daughters of Prince Nicholas of Prussia and his wife the Hon. Victoria Mancroft and live in London. Because there parents marraige was not dynastic under the prussian House Laws they are not Princesses of Prussia but the are great-granddaughters of the last german-prussian Crown Prince Wilhelm and great-great-granddaughtes of Emperor Wilhelm II..
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Old 04-14-2007, 11:58 AM
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And their descent from the wonderful Princess Royal Vicky. Princess Antonia and the Marquess of Douro, future Duke and Duchess of Wellington, have themselves THREE appropriate daughters for marriage to William (or Harry):
Lady Honor Victoria Wellesley (b. 1979)
Lady Mary Luise Wellesley (b. 1986)
Lady Charlotte Anne Wellesley (b. 1990)

The Lady Honor might be a bit old for them though, and Lady Charlotte a bit young.




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Old 04-14-2007, 12:01 PM
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What's so bad about marrying a DIVORCED COMMONER?
Let's face it - Diana didn't work very fine in that royal family and she was as noble as they come. Camilla (who is, I believe, A DIVORCED COMMONER) seems to have an easier time with them.
Don't you think it's a matter of personality and character rather than marital state?
Camilla is different to William's future bride in situation because Camilla is not bearing heirs and continuing on the royal line. No one is advocating Prince William or Harry marry a noble or royal unless they are in love with them and want to marry them of course.

On Kate Middleton:
I just don't think she had the breeding quite honestly and I'm not being snooty I'm being factual.
Royal commentator James Whittaker

Edit to say that Lady Diana was not as noble as they come, she was born the daughter of a Viscount. There were hundreds of women above her in the order of precedence of course. But yes Diana was noble and the marriage did not work, doesn't mean any other marriage to a noble/aristocratic Lady wouldn't work.
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Old 04-14-2007, 12:06 PM
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What about Beatrice Victoria von Preußen (* 10.02.1981) see here or her sister Florence Jessica von Preußen (* 29.07.1983) see here

The are daughters of Prince Nicholas of Prussia and his wife the Hon. Victoria Mancroft and live in London. Because there parents marraige was not dynastic under the prussian House Laws they are not Princesses of Prussia but the are great-granddaughters of the last german-prussian Crown Prince Wilhelm and great-great-granddaughtes of Emperor Wilhelm II..
I mentioned them above. Yes Princesses Beatrice, Florence and Augusta are a good idea. Very impressive descent they have and they are pretty and British.

Edit to say that Princess Florence is looking a lot more pretty these days as she is a brunette.

You can see lots of pictures of the von Preussen sisters. Go to HOME and type in ''von preussen''.
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Old 04-14-2007, 12:08 PM
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On Kate Middleton:
I just don't think she had the breeding quite honestly and I'm not being snooty I'm being factual.
Royal commentator James Whittaker

I wonder what observations that view is based on. After all, the rest of the BRF obviously did accept her, inviting her et´c..
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Old 04-14-2007, 01:06 PM
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William and Harry should marry for love regardless of race or status.
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I wonder what observations that view is based on. After all, the rest of the BRF obviously did accept her, inviting her et´c..
Accepting her as William's girlfriend is one thing, marrying her is another. He has to have an heir and a member of the aristocracy is probably ideal for marriage (of which he knows many).

And Diana was from one of the most aristocratic families in the UK, not to mention the fact her maternal grandmother, Lady Fermoy, was a close friend and Woman of the Bedchamber to The Queen Mother. She was ideal to marry The Prince of Wales, but her character and personality were not suited to royal life.

William will face the same challenges as his father did. Finding someone to love and share your life with, but who understands the sacrifice and duty that will come with being his wife.
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Old 04-14-2007, 01:18 PM
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William and Harry should marry for love regardless of race or status.
Harry may be able to do that, but not William. He's a future king.
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Is it really important that William marries a girl from an aristocratic or rich background branchg?
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Old 04-14-2007, 01:47 PM
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I know it is cliché to say I hope he marries someone he loves without regard for "breeding material" (as James Whittaker so ridiculously puts it). But I do hope so, and I am certain he will, and I am also certain that he has already met his "great love", be it Kate or Jecca, but I believe for certain he is in love with one of them. These are the women he seems most attached to and least willing to let slip out of his life. I like Jecca but really hope his love is with Kate because she seems, or seemed, the willing one. I don't see Jecca wanting the princess deal. And if he takes Kate only because Jecca won't have him, oh boy. That would be bad. But again negativity rears its ugly head.
I do feel sure that William knows better than to marry someone for the "wrong" reasons. If he finds himself in love with someone unwilling to marry him and do the princess thing, then I feel certain he will simply not marry.
If Harry marries someone and provides heirs, that must take pressure off, right? But even if Harry stays single too, the succession is far from lacking.
I can't see how his not marrying would be any problem. I know some of you out there are horrified at the idea of King Harry, but hey, just think how much fun it would be?! Besides, he would be so much older, he'd clean up and do his duty if he came to that. Both of these brothers would be good kings. I am sure of it.
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Old 04-14-2007, 04:29 PM
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British bookmakers were taking bets Saturday on who Prince William will marry following his reported split from girlfriend Kate Middleton, with Britney Spears and Kylie Minogue among the front runners. - source.

Britney Spears and Kylie Minogue?!
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Old 04-14-2007, 04:33 PM
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British bookmakers were taking bets Saturday on who Prince William will marry following his reported split from girlfriend Kate Middleton, with Britney Spears and Kylie Minogue among the front runners. - source.

Britney Spears and Kylie Minogue?!
I read about Paris Hilton!...
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Old 04-14-2007, 04:39 PM
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Oh god, what person is going to place a bet in favor of Prince William and......
Britney Spears? Paris Hilton? Kylie? How the heck is that a winning bet?!
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Is it really important that William marries a girl from an aristocratic or rich background branchg?
I think so. That's not to say he couldn't marry a commoner.....he may very well do so. But the reality is an aristocratic girl with appropriate bloodlines would be desirable to continue the royal line.
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Although Theodora of Greece is royal she´s IMO not a bit used to big press attention. Don´t know why some people believe that she is. It could possibly be true that she was born because her parents speculated on a royal marriage with William (I don´t think it´s so absurd). I think Constantine was capable of that idea when he and Anne-Marie decided to have some more children after William was born.
Theodora as far as I know lives in the USA to study for some years now. Since Constantine is William´s godfather both had some opportunity to see each other during their early childhood. But they both obviously never came closer. She´s a nice girl but to me she appears a little clumsy, shy and has got no special talents to make her fit for a job as a future Queen. (On Frederik´s wedding she most of the time stood around all alone and nowbody talked to her....)
But the main problem is her father´s part in history. That fact keeps all the high nobility away from the Greek royal children.
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