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Old 09-04-2006, 07:22 PM
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I knew you'd come around. There now. Isn't that better??
My work here is done. Time for ice cream and tv. L8!!
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Old 09-04-2006, 07:23 PM
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Yes. I was saying the exact same thing to Mrs Pig as she flew over Wandsworth last night.
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Old 09-04-2006, 07:24 PM
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Right. Ok. I won't post my opinion. It's apparantly not wanted. Would this better?

Oh yeah, Kate is soooo pretty, I think she's so lovely. She's going to be a great Queen Consort. An English Rose. A Goddess. Our saviour. Oh how wonderful she is.
Again...let's all play nice. And agree to disagree. That's what makes this board so fun.

BeatrixFan..don't be sensitive You know your input is always welcomed.
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Old 09-04-2006, 07:24 PM
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Any other ancient history you want to drag up? She wasn't a Duchess then. She's a Princess now.
But like Camilla before her marriage to Prince Charles, Kate is a commoner. She is a normal person and citizen. You said that Camilla has style and spark as the Duchess of Cornwall. Well she didn't have it before her marriage. She dressed dour to say the least. The world hated her. She was an adulteress and homewrecker. She didn't wear make-up or have access to the "royal" living she has now which has made her look more presentable and even elegant to the British public and the world.

Kate doesn't even have the baggage that Camilla had. If she married into the royal family today you would see her transformed and it wouldn't take very much. She's not supermodel beautiful but she's not ugly. She's cute actually. She would be spectacular as William's wife, imho.
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Old 09-04-2006, 07:26 PM
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When she proves to me that she's worthy to be my Queen, I'll compliment the girl. Until she does that, she remains the frumpy frowny appendage that is currently to be found on the arm of Prince William of Wales.
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Old 09-04-2006, 07:27 PM
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Well she didn't have it before her marriage. She dressed dour to say the least. The world hated her.
Camilla did have it before her marriage. She was a person with a personality and something interesting about her. The world didn't hate her. The tabloids and the Diana nuts hated her. She's proved she's a natural Royal - she was born to be Royal. When Kate shows me she's in the same league, I'll accept her.
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Old 09-04-2006, 07:31 PM
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She was a person with a personality and something interesting about her.
Too easy.

Go back and look at the pictures of her, the Queen, and Charles on the steps outside Windsor castle on their wedding day. The Queen looked like she'd rather be having a root canal that day. That "we're leaving" announcement to Charles on those steps that windy day kinda said it all. And they broadcast the ceremony on tv here in the States. I specifically watched the Queen's face. Not exactly a beaming mother of the groom.

BUT....they're still married, Charles will be King, Camilla will be his Queen, and the monarchy, like life, goes on.
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Old 09-04-2006, 07:36 PM
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Yeah, did it not occur to you that it was very much her son's day? You people. You didn't see the footage of the Queen on the steps laughing with Camilla? You didn't see the Queen kissing Camilla when they left Windsor Castle for honeymoon? You didn't see the Queen kissing Camilla when they were in Wales? You didn't see the Queen enjoying Braemar with Camilla? You haven't heard that the Queen loves being with Camilla because they share a love of horses and the countryside? She's not even your Queen for heaven's sake.
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Old 09-04-2006, 07:51 PM
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Amazing. Go Skins???
Bite your tongue! I might live in the area, but I'm a transplant from the UK via California, although "Go Niners" seems to be square under the heading of "total lost cause" these days.
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Old 09-04-2006, 07:55 PM
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Right, I've deleted some of the more bad-tempered personal comments, and I hope that'll be an end to them.

Please remember that this thread is about William and Kate, not about Camilla, so let's get it back on track.

Sam, if you've recovered your customary good humour, I'd like to ask you something, although I think we might have had this conversation before. Diana was charismatic, very un-boring, and highly popular - all the things you're criticising Kate for not being - and look how that turned out. What makes you think that being more low-key will be such a disaster, given recent history?
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Old 09-04-2006, 07:56 PM
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When she proves to me that she's worthy to be my Queen, I'll compliment the girl. Until she does that, she remains the frumpy frowny appendage that is currently to be found on the arm of Prince William of Wales.
Yikes! I'm obviously missing something. I haven't seen any frumpy frowny appendange on Prince William's arm. Who is this woman? I haven't seen her. I've only seen Kate.

I think Kate is very attractive. I think that, should she marry William and get the inevitable make-over, she has the potential to be beautiful. Look at what deportment lessons and expert make-up and specially designed clothes did for Mary Donaldson, and for Camilla. Kate's looking great at the moment. I think it's obvious she is working out because her figure is superb.

We've seen some photos of her frowning, but who's to know there weren't an equal number of smiling photos taken seconds before or after that were just not published. I don't think she is under any obligation to smile for the cameras when she is attending to her day to day activities like going to an ATM or buying a new frock.
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Old 09-04-2006, 07:59 PM
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What makes you think that being more low-key will be such a disaster, given recent history?
She isn't low-key, she's no-key. There's nothing there at all. Just a block of wood in a bad wig and some pradas. I'm not asking Kate to be sensational. I don't want another Diana. What I do want is someone that shows some personality. Kate hasn't got a personality. She's bland, boring and a total non-entity. Why should I like this woman? I mean, surely thats a problem? Royal Marriage is about balance. William is incredibly boring so he needs someone with a bit of spice to make him more acceptable. Kate is boring. The pair of them together present a truly dull future for Britain.
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Old 09-04-2006, 08:01 PM
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But in all fairness...has the opportunity been present for Kate to show some personality?

Should she smile for the camera a little more..say something extremely witty on the telly? What?
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Old 09-04-2006, 08:06 PM
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She could smile for the camera for once, let alone a little more. I'd just like to hear, "Kate likes diamonds" or "Kate hates cheap hotels" or something that gives me an indication that she is actually human and has got likes and dislikes. Everyone has their markers that show them to be who they are. But she doesn't.
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Old 09-04-2006, 08:22 PM
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She isn't low-key, she's no-key. There's nothing there at all. Just a block of wood in a bad wig and some pradas. I'm not asking Kate to be sensational. I don't want another Diana. What I do want is someone that shows some personality. Kate hasn't got a personality. She's bland, boring and a total non-entity. Why should I like this woman? I mean, surely thats a problem? Royal Marriage is about balance. William is incredibly boring so he needs someone with a bit of spice to make him more acceptable. Kate is boring. The pair of them together present a truly dull future for Britain.
William has his father's personality and taste in women. Kate suits him because she is quiet, discreet and devoted to him as he is to her. He doesn't want a superstar. It interrupts the quiet he craves in his personal life. He doesn't want any drama. He had that with his parents and Prince Charles certainly couldn't handle the drama with his first marriage.
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Old 09-04-2006, 08:24 PM
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How? Where has he ever displayed that? I'm not asking for drama, just a little something. Anyway, I've said it now and I'm just going round in circles so I give up.
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Old 09-04-2006, 08:33 PM
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You want Kate to be something she's not just to please YOU. Perhaps William loves her just the way she is and doesn't want her to change. Maybe she's not the type of person to ramble on about herself to anyone who will listen. Some people are just naturally very quiet.
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Old 09-04-2006, 08:58 PM
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How? Where has he ever displayed that? I'm not asking for drama, just a little something. Anyway, I've said it now and I'm just going round in circles so I give up.
No- don't give up please.
My concern right now is if William is continuing with a career of sorts- it will be interesting to see if he gets to a similar level as Charles did in the navy- so why doesn't Kate pursue something that would lead us to see a bright intelligent woman who would make a great queen. She is intelligent - is she setting up the children's clothing business that we heard about or is she working for her parents? Surely she is doing something during the day. Anybody heard of anything?
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My concern right now is if William is continuing with a career of sorts- so why doesn't Kate pursue something that would lead us to see a bright intelligent woman who would make a great queen. She is intelligent - is she setting up the children's clothing business that we heard about or is she working for her parents? Surely she is doing something during the day. Anybody heard of anything?
My sentiments exactly.
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Old 09-04-2006, 10:26 PM
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My impression is that William isn't looking for drama either. ( On the other hand, I think Harry loves drama.)

But I hope that Kate finds something to do with herself. It's not good to be that age and not have an occupation of some sort.
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