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Old 08-24-2006, 03:33 PM
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William could marry a commoner, but he has to be very careful because he knows, better than anyone, what a mistake will mean to the monarchy. Whether an aristocrat or not, the woman has to be suitable and ready to sacrifice her entire life to public service, endure nonstop media attention and bear heirs to the throne.

It won't be easy for him to find that person.
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this talk about not marrying someone within your own social status just goes to show how some people can be extraordinary snobs and how close minded they are. william should choose for love and nothing but love. not social status, not culture, not intelligence, not looks, not religion. if he truly loves the woman he marries then he will support her regardless of all these things and will help her "learn the ropes".
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Old 08-24-2006, 06:13 PM
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this talk about not marrying someone within your own social status just goes to show how some people can be extraordinary snobs and how close minded they are. william should choose for love and nothing but love. not social status, not culture, not intelligence, not looks, not religion. if he truly loves the woman he marries then he will support her regardless of all these things and will help her "learn the ropes".
Unfortunately, William cannot disregard all of the factors you mention and marry just for love. He's not a normal person down the street, but a future King.
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Old 08-24-2006, 07:44 PM
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is there a law stating that william can't abidicate? if he wants to marry for love and love alone then he should. it's been done before and the world did not come to an abrupt end. it was called a "crisis" but the monarchy continued and if william doesn't want to be king then it should be his choice and if that happens then i'm sure the world won't come to an abrupt end this time either. as we've seen in the past even when some of these factors are taken into consideration they don't work out, as a matter of fact they proved to be horribly wrong.
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Old 08-24-2006, 08:35 PM
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is there a law stating that william can't abidicate? if he wants to marry for love and love alone then he should. it's been done before and the world did not come to an abrupt end. it was called a "crisis" but the monarchy continued and if william doesn't want to be king then it should be his choice and if that happens then i'm sure the world won't come to an abrupt end this time either. as we've seen in the past even when some of these factors are taken into consideration they don't work out, as a matter of fact they proved to be horribly wrong.
It could happen, but I highly doubt William would be as foolish and selfish as his great-great uncle Edward was. It's his duty to be King under the Act of Settlement and he should have no problem finding an appropriate woman to marry and bear children with.

We're not living in the 1930's anymore.
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Old 08-24-2006, 08:38 PM
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if he truly loves the woman he marries then he will support her regardless of all these things and will help her "learn the ropes".
The point of being Consort is that she be the support system, not him. He's the one who is going to deal with the burden of being king and it would best that he marry someone who knows that and can handle the situation that she gets herself into. I believe someone with a strong educational background would easily be able to look at the situation objectively and act appropriately with a sense of realistic perspective. He would need someone with the ability ot sustain themselves emotionally, preferably someone who has already proven her mettle in life.
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Old 08-24-2006, 09:51 PM
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Yeah I am. I want the monarchy to be as prestigious and royal as it once was. It's time for another Princess to enter the family, and Theodora is the most suitable one. But I'd be happy with Madeleine and many others as well.
Yeah, that!

I think exactly like you. Royalty must be prestigious as it once was or die...If Royals becomes "common people" as me, you or my nieghbor, they could be considered superfluous. Why having a King if he is like my uncle? And if they doesn't even rule their countries any more, Royals could be a real waste of money and attention.

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Old 08-24-2006, 10:43 PM
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In the words of Lady Montdore, "Whoever invented love should be shot". Theodora and William would be a perfect match. Look at Grand Duke Jean and Princess Josephine-Charlotte of Belgium. An arranged marriage but they learned to love one another and were perfect for Luxembourg.
In an interview before her death, she stated that she decided to marry him before the higher ups knew anything about it.
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I don't see the majority of UK citizens being happy with a future Queen from a criminal background or with no intelligence (unable to string a sentence together).
As Williams wife she should have a reasonable amount of intelligence, an education and be able to converse with anyone and everyone she meets.

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this talk about not marrying someone within your own social status just goes to show how some people can be extraordinary snobs and how close minded they are.
To most people, it is called being realistic!
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Old 08-25-2006, 07:56 AM
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Old 08-25-2006, 02:39 PM
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I don't see the majority of UK citizens being happy with a future Queen from a criminal background or with no intelligence (unable to string a sentence together).
As Williams wife she should have a reasonable amount of intelligence, an education and be able to converse with anyone and everyone she meets.



To most people, it is called being realistic!
Openmindedness can be a good thing. However, we must be realistic as you say. One simply cannot just marry "anybody".
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Old 08-25-2006, 03:25 PM
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Here is an interesting article about Kate Middleton. The article says the information is an excerpt from the new book about Prince William and Kate.
http://www.royalanecdotes.com/2006/0...s-on-cbs-news/
I'd be interested in any opinions...
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Old 08-25-2006, 04:21 PM
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is there a law stating that william can't abidicate?
William has nothing to abdicate. He is no King. He helds no function of State. He has no peerage. He has nothing except his birthright.
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Old 08-26-2006, 07:23 AM
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It could happen, but I highly doubt William would be as foolish and selfish as his great-great uncle Edward was. It's his duty to be King under the Act of Settlement and he should have no problem finding an appropriate woman to marry and bear children with.

We're not living in the 1930's anymore.
there's nothing foolish or selfish about giving up this "opportunity" to be with the person he loves. just because it says on a piece of paper that he's entitled to the position doesn't mean he has to take it. people on the outside think being the monarch, or a member of this RF is all great and wonderful. diana found out the hard way that it wasn't....the scrutiny is unending and there's no such thing as privacy. the possibility of william not becoming king is unlikely i agree but if anyone tells him he must "marry for duty" first...he only has to remember his mother and father and how well "marrying for duty" worked.
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I know what you're saying, but being who he is and knowing his duty are the reality for William. He can certainly find a woman to love and marry, as long as she is suitable and able to handle the immense responsibility of being his wife.

He has plenty of time to get it right.
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Old 08-26-2006, 12:17 PM
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The point of being Consort is that she be the support system, not him. He's the one who is going to deal with the burden of being king and it would best that he marry someone who knows that and can handle the situation that she gets herself into. I believe someone with a strong educational background would easily be able to look at the situation objectively and act appropriately with a sense of realistic perspective. He would need someone with the ability ot sustain themselves emotionally, preferably someone who has already proven her mettle in life.
they need to support each other...both emotionally and professionally. i may be wrong but the Queen has little formal education and learned most of what she knows "on the job" and she's done wonderfully. IMO emotional stability and having someone that she can turn to for guidance, ie the man that's being formally trained for this future role, are the things that will determine whether she's able to handle things.
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Old 08-26-2006, 12:25 PM
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I don't see the majority of UK citizens being happy with a future Queen from a criminal background or with no intelligence (unable to string a sentence together).
As Williams wife she should have a reasonable amount of intelligence, an education and be able to converse with anyone and everyone she meets.



To most people, it is called being realistic!
i'm always amazed at how many of your countrymen/woman have given you the huge responsibility of speaking for them. i never mentioned anything about criminals that's something you pulled out of the air but even socialites and aristocrats can be criminals. as for having "no intelligence" diana was the first one to admit that she was "thick as a plank" and the world adored her and the majority of the british wanted her to be the next Queen. intelligence? i mentioned in another post that, and correct me if i'm wrong, the Queen has little formal education and she's learned most of what she knows during her reign. you don't have to an aristocrat or wealthy to be popular. being realistic is knowing that class and social standing do not make the person.
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Old 08-26-2006, 12:29 PM
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I know what you're saying, but being who he is and knowing his duty are the reality for William. He can certainly find a woman to love and marry, as long as she is suitable and able to handle the immense responsibility of being his wife.

He has plenty of time to get it right.
you're definitely right about having the time to get it right and i hope he doesn't bow to pressure as his father felt he had to. i agree she should be suitable and able to handle immense responsibility.
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But isn't the idea of getting it right entails pressure? Everyone their own idea of what constitutes "the right one". Also, what would be the litmus test for if he did get it right or not:
- by the fact the couple live the till-death-do-us-apart, or
- how popular the princess will be, or
- how happy the couple are throughout their marriage, or
- on a twisted note, if anyone got caught cheating or rumour to cheat,
- etc.
There are hundreds of ways to judge if a marriage is successful.
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When you're a future King, there is always going to be pressure, public and private, in your life. That's why you need the right kind of wife to support you.
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