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Am I the only one wondering what gem came out of Prince Phillip’s mouth when he found out her mother was black?
Am I the only one wondering what gem came out of Prince Phillip’s mouth when he found out her mother was black?
As Lady Nimue posted we are proud of her here in L.A.
But what fascinates me personally about this young lady is where she has come from versus where she is now.
She did/does not have the advantage of a tight, structured, supportive and emotionally nurturing family background coccoon like Kate Middleton.
She does not have the ancient aristocratic lineage of a Stephanie de Lannoy(knights of the Golden Fleece, soldiers, diplomats) which would have guaranteed her enthusiastic entree into virtually any Royal or noble family in Europe.
And yet in a few months she is going to be a peer of these young women...a Royal Highness with all that comes with it.
At the very least she must have inner qualities of discipline, determination and intelligence that must be formidable.
Lol I think the same! I am actually shock that the Queen allow the wedding for this same reason,Am I the only one wondering what gem came out of Prince Phillip’s mouth when he found out her mother was black?
Lol I think the same! I am actually shock that the Queen allow the wedding for this same reason,
Though we leave in a different era and thanks god for that! and I think they will have gorgeous kids. Wonder how Philip and the Queen will react if the baby is more African American look?
I agree with you.
Meghan seems to have been left pretty much own her own during the courtship with nobody to help her other than Harry and Doria.
But what fascinates me personally about this young lady is where she has come from versus where she is now.
She did/does not have the advantage of a tight, structured, supportive and emotionally nurturing family background coccoon like Kate Middleton.
She does not have the ancient aristocratic lineage of a Stephanie de Lannoy(knights of the Golden Fleece, soldiers, diplomats) which would have guaranteed her enthusiastic entree into virtually any Royal or noble family in Europe.
And yet in a few months she is going to be a peer of these young women...a Royal Highness with all that comes with it.
At the very least she possesses inner qualities of discipline, determination and intelligence that must be formidable.
Thank goodness for differences of opinion, no? It makes things so much more interesting here at TRF!
Meghan is the quintessential American. It is because she is American that she can walk into a royal family with head unbowed. She doesn't need 'the ancient aristocratic lineage of a Stephanie de Lannoy (knights of the Golden Fleece, soldiers, diplomats)'. Meghan's grit and far-seeing comes in equal measure from ease of background and steely ancestral survivors (equivalent to Stephanie de Lannoy's militaristic, power and money ambitious ancestors who were able to be granted titles by kings).
Sorry, was a little too enthusiastic with the smilies - probably should have used to flowers. Will edit my post and remove all. My apologies.
Glad that you agree that being American is not what makes the difference - in why she can walk into a royal family with her head unbowed . My issue was that you claimed that it did.
The key thing is that Meghan acts naturally, to be herself and the person harry fell in love with. It doesn't matter what her lineage is or background, more so how she she interacts with people and present herself in a way that people can warm to, appreciate and understand.
Of-course, we might notice subtle changes in Meghan as time goes on since things like protocol etc will be in the back of her mind when she is on public engagements, even her accent may take on some British traits as she spend more time here, but whether an aristocrat or not, the prospect of marrying into a royal family must be the same for everyone I would have thought!
Methinks you are looking for controversy. Maybe? I stand by what I said: it is her being an American that gives her that moxie to walk into the BRF with head unbowed (though I suspect she is tons nervous for sure, no question). In saying that, no comment is being made or intimated regarding anyone else from anyplace else (and suggesting such has nothing to do with my post). Just saying. I claimed nothing on the order of what you are suggesting.
Where Meghan 'comes from' is two doting parents, loving extended family (with some winceable relations but who doesn't have that?) and an excellent education. From all the evidence she comes from a 'tight, structured, supportive and emotionally nurturing family background coccoon'. If money is a criteria, Meghan was raised in wealth. Her mother lives in an area referred to as an alternative Beverly Hills-type neighborhood. Plus Meghan attended an excellent university. Meghan had all the advantages so not sure what you mean?
Qualities she received from her mother, I am sure, and even her father. In two of her most famous stories her father figures prominently: it was her father who told her to 'draw her own box' and told her to write a letter.
Meghan is the quintessential American. It is because she is American that she can walk into a royal family with head unbowed. She doesn't need 'the ancient aristocratic lineage of a Stephanie de Lannoy (knights of the Golden Fleece, soldiers, diplomats)'. Meghan's grit and far-seeing comes in equal measure from ease of background and steely ancestral survivors (equivalent to Stephanie de Lannoy's militaristic, power and money ambitious ancestors who were able to be granted titles by kings).
Thanks for your clarification. No, not looking for controversy. I sensed some American superialism which you most likely didn't intend - but that's the way it came across to me.
I don't agree with your assessment that it is her being American but her character that makes the difference. Of course, someone's environment influences growing up but I don't see a reason why Meghan would not have walked in in the same way had she instead grown up in Canada or Germany (for example), but feel free to disagree.
If there are specific aspects of American culture that help (and I imagine there are but other cultures would probably help in different ways with about the same result) I'd be interested to know (and no, not saying this to be argumentative - I like different perspectives!).
Thanks for your clarification. No, not looking for controversy. I sensed some American superialism which you most likely didn't intend - but that's the way it came across to me.
I don't agree with your assessment that it is her being American but her character that makes the difference. Of course, someone's environment influences growing up but I don't see a reason why Meghan would not have walked in in the same way had she instead grown up in Canada or Germany (for example), but feel free to disagree.
If there are specific aspects of American culture that help (and I imagine there are but other cultures would probably help in different ways with about the same result) I'd be interested to know (and no, not saying this to be argumentative - I like different perspectives!).
Thanks for your clarification. No, not looking for controversy. I sensed some American superialism which you most likely didn't intend - but that's the way it came across to me.
I don't agree with your assessment that it is her being American but her character that makes the difference. Of course, someone's environment influences growing up but I don't see a reason why Meghan would not have walked in in the same way had she instead grown up in Canada or Germany (for example), but feel free to disagree.
If there are specific aspects of American culture that help (and I imagine there are but other cultures would probably help in different ways with about the same result) I'd be interested to know (and no, not saying this to be argumentative - I like different perspectives!).
The key thing is that Meghan acts naturally, to be herself and the person harry fell in love with. It doesn't matter what her lineage is or background, more so how she she interacts with people and present herself in a way that people can warm to, appreciate and understand.
Of-course, we might notice subtle changes in Meghan as time goes on since things like protocol etc will be in the back of her mind when she is on public engagements, even her accent may take on some British traits as she spend more time here, but whether an aristocrat or not, the prospect of marrying into a royal family must be the same for everyone I would have thought!