Harry's Night in Vegas: August 2012

[EIIR]

The part that interests me about this whole story isn't naked Harry, it's all the people writing in from England saying that if you're in England and you try to see the pictures (say at the TMZ website) all you get is a message saying they are blocked in the country you're trying to view them in. I knew they could ban them from being published in a British paper but I didn't know they could block you from seeing them on sites outside England if you are in England. Anyone posting from England? Are you unable to see the naked Harry pics anywhere on the web?

I'm sorry, but this is a load of rubbish. This is the UK, not communist China. I just went to TMZ and saw the photos in exactly the same way those outside the UK do. The British press may not be publishing the pictures on privacy grounds, but they've been very clear in letting their readers know where they can be seen and I'll guess that most Brits have seen them by now.

What I don't understand is the idea that's being floated that Harry's going to have to be 're-branded' or that this will be somehow catastrophic for his reputation among the British people. Harry's persona is that of a not-too-bright army officer, who likes a drink and a dance and a good party, preferably with a pretty girl or two. He can pull off the serious royal duties when necessary, but lets his hair down when having a good time with his mates.

Harry's actions fit perfectly with what most people thought of Harry already. I'm fairly sure that this will have no lasting detrimental effect on the popularity of Harry or the RF generally.

 

[katmen]

keep calm and carry on....
time to end harrys nudegate
what is private should stay private... shame on TMZ.COM

 

[cdngirl]

The Brits may be very supportive of Harry right now, but their acceptance that the royals are "common men" is dangerous to the existence of the monarchy itself. Or for just Harry himself. In a few years' time when the partying has taken its toll on his face, and he is a little less buff and toned, you will see a very different commentary.

The veil of mystery must never be lifted from the royal family - words uttered about filming such things as a family barbecue. I'm afraid Harry has yanked that veil off the curtain rods.

I think this is being missed. In the long run, if this keeps happening, it will affect the monarchy. I'm laughing at the stupidity, but really I don't think I want to see monarchy act like this and front paged with their butt in my face. Not a nice look. I like Harry, but sometimes, seriously, he really has to learn from these gynormous mistakes he keeps making.

 

[Empress Merel]

keep calm and carry on....
time to end harrys nudegate
what is private should stay private... shame on TMZ.COM

TMZ has no shame though and nor will they care. They thrive on stuff like this.

 

[cdngirl]

If this was Beatrice, Eugenie or Zara, all hell would break loose

Oh hell ya, all this talk of 'just having fun' and 'he's young' 'and this is 2012, not 1912', yeah right. Those women would be tarred and featherd. Total Total double standard.

 

[Hollie]

TMZ has no shame though and nor will they care. They thrive on stuff like this.

To be honest, there are far more people that are enjoying the pics than those condemning them

 

[Empress Merel]

To be honest, there are far more people that are enjoying the pics than those condemning them

I know I am. Honestly, nudity scandals have never shocked me. Only when they pull a Blake Lively and say it wasn't her in the pics even though it pretty obvious it was, is when I facepalm.

 

[csw]

Perhaps there is one that's not been released ... yet.

This was my thought as well. I wonder if the "photographer" is holding out for more money for the full monty shots.

 

[cdngirl]

This was my thought as well. I wonder if the "photographer" is holding out for more money for the full monty shots.

or video. Wouldn't surprise me in the least.

 

[Hollie]

This was my thought as well. I wonder if the "photographer" is holding out for more money for the full monty shots.

haha, considering the "first 2" pics were only worth 10k, I dun think the "photographer" is clever enough to even consider this.

 

[Kataryn]

I personally find it interesting that the fact Harry spend a week with Cressida Bones on Necker Island directly before he came to Vegas is obviously of no importance now. I wonder what the tabloids made of that fact if there weren't those pics - I bet they would have cried "Marry her, Harry!!" for weeks and weeks, doing features on her and her background again and again. Now they won't. Honi soit...

 

[Elenath]

I wonder though. People keep saying Harry isn't the brightest bulb. Does that mean he is of average intelligence (like most people) who decided not to go to university since he wouldn't be able to use it anyway, or is he really not that bright???

 

[soapstar]

You know what I find so interesting?

That a majority of the people outraged by this whole thing don't appear to be British. Based on this forums, the Daily Mail (shocker) and the Telegraph a lot of British appear to be slighlty dismayed, bemused, or he say he is a single young man in Vegas not hurting any one, etc. There is definitely a feeling that he is a man of privilege and should act accordingly, But it doesn't seem to be a big thing to them. Maybe because they can't see the pictures?

Nothing to the extent of what is going on on here.

What does that say about us or the British?

Honestly I think because its Harry. 20 years from now he probably couldn't get away with this if he continues with these sort of antics. And definitely if had been a York Princess I am sure the talk would have been to have her (and her parents) sent to the Tower if at all possible. I remember some of the discussion when news came out that Eugenie streaked about her college campus (which apparently is somewhat of a tradition) and there were no pics to speak of. Talk about a double standard.

Very interesting.

I agree. I also find it interesting to see posts (on here and other forums) say that they have no problem with Harry doing this, but they would have a problem if this had been one of the other younger royals. So it's harmless fun for Harry, but a scandal if Eugenie had done it?

 

[crm2317]

To be honest I saw the pictures and thought good on him!

He is a young man who went partying with his friends. Should he be ashamed?

The pictures were extraordinarily private, and should never have been published in the first place. Who exactly is he harming or offending?

 

[Hollie]

I agree. I also find it interesting to see posts (on here and other forums) say that they have no problem with Harry doing this, but they would have a problem if this had been one of the other younger royals. So it's harmless fun for Harry, but a scandal if Eugenie had done it?

Because we are always more critical towards females. On a bright note, if Eugenie really does it in the future, we can quote Harry's Vegas case as a counterargument.

 

[Duchessmary]

I find it amusing that the pics are blurred on British sites and clear on U.S sites. The Sun comes to mind, the usually have no problem showing skin all over the place, and yet when it's a royal everyone freaks out.

Give the guy a break. He was being idiotic, but aren't we all sometimes?

 

[Madame Royale]

I generally couldn't give a damn what he does in private (as long as it's legal), but am consistently perplexed by this man's inability to remain cautious. It's rather rediculous that he should frequently place himself in positions, with people he musn't know at all well, which bring into question his level of maturity, or lack there of.

If he doesn't get it by now, then when will he? People can justify this behaviour all they want, but it wont change the fact that this man is in a position of immense privilege and resposbility and that still needs to be taken into consideration when he wants to live and socialise as though he were a private citizen for a week or two.

Was I offended? Not at all. It's not the first time I've seen a naked man though I think the covering of his privates really only necessitated one hand from what I could tell (male pride and all that, I know I know).

Apparently BP requested that the images not be circulated in the British press. One can understand that the Queen did not wish to wake to her grandsons white bum layed out across her breakfast table next to her pot of Earl Grey and bowl of porridge.

 

[EIIR]

I wonder though. People keep saying Harry isn't the brightest bulb. Does that mean he is of average intelligence (like most people) who decided not to go to university since he wouldn't be able to use it anyway, or is he really not that bright???

Harry didn't have a great record at school. Most 18-year-olds in the UK study 3 A-Levels at least, Harry only passed 2 with pretty mediocre grades. He didn't go to uni because there was no point; he knew he wanted to go into the Army and it didn't require a university degree.

Harry himself was concerned that he didn't have the brain power to pass the exams required to fly the Apache attack helicopters as they're notoriously difficult. He did pass them, however, and by all accounts is a very highly thought of pilot and was considered one of the best pilots in his graduating class.

William is much more academically capable than Harry; he got 3 good A Levels and a good degree from a top 10 university. Charles's educational achievements were probably fairly average. Harry did considerably better than Diana, however, who failed every exam she took despite sitting them twice.

 

[cdngirl]

I generally couldn't give a damn what he does in private (as long as it's legal), but am consistently perplexed by this man's inability to remain cautious. It's rather rediculous that he should frequently place himself in positions, with people he msun't know at all well, which bring into question his level of maturity, or lack there of.

If he doesn't get it by now, then when will he? People can justify this behaviour all they want, but it wont change the fact that this man is in a position of immense privilege and resposbility and that still needs to be taken into consideration when he wants to live and socialise as though he were a private citizen for a week or two.

Was I offended? Not at all. It's not the first time I've seen a naked man though I think the covering of his privates really only necessitated one hand from what I could tell

(male pride and all that, I know I know).

Apparently BP requested that the images not be circulated in the British press. One can understand that the Queen did not wish to wake to her grandsons white bum layed out across her breakfast table next to her pot of Earl Grey and bowl of porridge.

That is it in a nutshell. It's not the nudity or the having fun, it's the fact he is doing this over and over and just doesn't seem to 'get it' as you say.

I don't think they should of requested the photos. You simply cannot control what is on the internet. The best thing probably would of just to say no comment and move on. They could rake Mr. (I have no brains in my head),Harry in private.

Was I offended? Not at all. It's not the first time I've seen a naked man though I think the covering of his privates really only necessitated one hand from what I could tell

lmao, well I only wished i could put what my friends are saying about this online.

 

[Elenath]

I ask because not everyone tests well and not everyone is ambitious enough to want to achieve high marks (I know I wasn't)... so lower marks don't mean that much to me. He's an Apache pilot. He can't be that dumb. Right??

 

[soapstar]

Because we are always more critical towards females. On a bright note, if Eugenie really does it in the future, we can quote Harry's Vegas case as a counterargument.

Very true.

 

[cdngirl]

I wonder though. People keep saying Harry isn't the brightest bulb. Does that mean he is of average intelligence (like most people) who decided not to go to university since he wouldn't be able to use it anyway, or is he really not that bright???

It's not about book smart though, it's about 'street smart' for lack of a better term. He knows what the world is like today, Facebook, twitter, internet. Yet he does something so incredibly stupid.

 

[EIIR]

I don't think they should of requested the photos. You simply cannot control what is on the internet. The best thing probably would of just to say no comment and move on. They could rake Mr. (I have no brains in my head),Harry in private.

They're not trying to control what's on the internet. They know that they can't prevent the press in other countries from publishing any photos of the royals.

CH are clearly sticking to the principle which they have agreed with the press - that the royals are entitled to privacy, and that pictures taken within a private hotel room on a private holiday against the wishes of those present is an invasion or privacy, which it quite clearly is.

They can't control the internet or foreign publications, but they're trying to hold the British press to their promises, as a point of principle if nothing else. Goodness knows, if you give an inch with the British press they'll start pressing for a mile.

 

[cdngirl]

True, but are the suceeding with that request?

 

[EIIR]

True, but are the suceeding with that request?

So far they are, because no British publication has yet printed the pictures in their original form. The British press is so far playing ball on this, whether they continue to do so is anyone's guess.

They're covering the story in detail, just not showing the pictures. I have no doubt that several of the British tabloids have sent reporters to Vegas to try and track down these women to get interviews with as much of the detail of what actually went on as possible.

 

[NGalitzine]

My guess is the press is more concerned about the Levenson Inquiry which deals with rights to privacy and also press ethics that they are with what BP or CH might think if they published the pictures which by now most interested Brits have seen on the internet.

 

[casualfan]

What were you thinking when you posted such sanctimonious wittering.

Get out your draping and head for those table legs because we're warping back to 1912!

Since when is asking the 3rd-in-line-to-the-throne to be smart about what parts of his anatomy end up on the Interwebs "warping back to 1912"?

By the way, try to be a bit more respectful of other people's beliefs, instead of belittling them. It's the only way I and others can respect you for yours.

 

[EIIR]

No doubt Leveson is a huge factor here. The press also realise that Prince William pretty much hates them, and given he and his family are the future of the RF, and by far the most interesting part for most people, they have to maintain good working relations with CH. If they want an interview with Kate in the future, or photos of their firstborn child for example, they're going to think carefully about how they report on the royals, which is only right and fair. The press's policy of 'publish and ask questions later' is what got them into this mess.

 

[susan alicia]

extraordinarily private would be if he were naked with the a woman he loved, he is in vegas with several women and that is the risk you take

To be honest I saw the pictures and thought good on him!

He is a young man who went partying with his friends. Should he be ashamed?

The pictures were

extraordinarily private

, and should never have been published in the first place. Who exactly is he harming or offending?

 

[machievelli]

This embarrassing (yet avoidable) situation is all on Harry. He really has no one to blame but himself because he displayed poor judgement at every turn in Las Vegas. It's not wise for anyone (let alone a very high profile Prince) to get drunk and nude with complete strangers. I don't know why he thought he could be so careless and reckless in Sin City of all places. I really like Harry. He is fun, lively, and down to earth. He has done some great work for charity. I think Harry can has very good potential to continue to do good work for his charities and the royal family. However he has got to finally grow up and act accordingly. He also has to understand that he is not like everyone else. He is a public figure and member of the royal family. So he can't throw caution to the wind.


Harry lives an extremely privileged life and his only restriction is that he not damage or embarrass the Queen, the monarchy, or his country. Harry is a grown man of almost 30 years of age who should already know the ways of the world. He has been groomed his entire life on how to act appropriately. Harry has to understand that he is always representing the Queen even when he is on holiday. Life should be fun and lived to the fullest. But he needs to learn the real meaning of duty and of being consistent. Harry has to be more cautious, prudent, and wise. He has to learn discretion and better judgment so that he won't continue to make idiotic blunders. I want Harry to do continue to do well. I hope this situation has finally woken him up to the realities of his position in life. Harry has way too much potential to keep mucking it up with poor judgment. But if this situation does not make him wise up then nothing will.



The 2 articles below is pretty much how I feel about this situation

Prince Harry: Conduct unbecoming - Telegraph


Leaving Las Vegas, naughty prince must learn from the older and wiser William - UK - News - Evening Standard