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Old 08-22-2012, 08:57 AM
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I was thinking. Might this be his last hurrah before he goes off to Afghanistan? Could it be sooner than we think?
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:03 AM
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Is he not having sex in one of them??
Um...No. Not at all.


Anyhow....seems some people haven't seen the photos, because they're talking like they're worse than they are.

There are 2 photos. That's all.

In the first one, his hands are covering his "jewels" so no one can see them.

In the second, we see him from head to toe from the back side, hugging a woman. Again, no "jewels" to be seen. Just his butt.

Not a smart way to be photographed, but I've seen more revealing photos of Tsar Nicholas II to be honest. And those were taken in 1914 or so!
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:10 AM
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It seems like some people are more upset that Harry got naked in public than him displaying poor judgment. I didn't realize nudity was so heinous :shrug:
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:12 AM
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I covered up my table (and piano) legs after seeing this on TV this morning. I don't like to call anyone "stupid," but this is astoundingly bad behavior. Even though it is a VIP room, it's still located in a public place. He is one silly prince.
Kitty, he was in his own suite at the hotel - hardly a "public place". He had guests there and they celebrated and one guest betrayed his trust. If this is "public" space, then his bedroom at Clarence House is that as well - absurd.
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:14 AM
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I think some parts of the world have a stronger puritanical streak thsn others which is reflected in several posts.
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:18 AM
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I mean I know I am reserved and a good girl but I feel like I just can't believe when I logged on here how many people are cool with his behavior. I am just blown away by how different my opinion is versus everyone else's.
Could you explain what you mean by a "good girl".
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:22 AM
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I find myself in the middle of this "issue."

Nudity while offensive to some is not a crime. He is not having sex or doing drugs. He is naked. Now I do agree it wasn't the smartest thing to do especially considering who he is. Harry appears to have a good set of true friends who always have his back, so this appears a newcomer (who won't be back in the trusted circle) who was introduced to him and sold him out for a buck!

But I don't think its a smart idea for anyone to appear naked in public....with the technology we have and the money being thrown around for pictures like this...you never know what could end up in the public arena. Lest not forget that days before her marriage, a picture of a topless Sophie (thats the Countess of Wessex not to be confused with another Sophie) appeared. She, in a moment of fun for what she thought was a harmless picture), showed some of her assets before she even met Edward let alone married him. Now I am not condemning Sophie, I just brought this up to show that sometimes good people do stupid things.

Now I feel a tiny bit sorry for Harry and only a tiny bit because he is a grown man and should have known better. But as evidenced by the comments of his Nazi uniform that happened YEARS AGO...any past and future good that he ever does is going to be downplayed or dismissed because of two naked pictures.

This is the world we live in guys...don't do things today that might cause you trouble in the future.
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:26 AM
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He can have fun and be naked all he wants, he's an adult...I think the bigger issue is that for all the years he's been famous, he still didn't have the intelligence to have his guards confiscate cell-phones before the fun began. Those will pics will last forever.
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:26 AM
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Zonk, I think you meant " before she even met Edward" not Harry.
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:30 AM
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Yes, thanks I did catch that when editing my post.
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:30 AM
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He can have fun and be naked all he wants, he's an adult...I think the bigger issue is that for all the years he's been famous, he still didn't have the intelligence to have his guards confiscate cell-phones before the fun began. Those will pics will last forever.
True, and when he is 80 he can look back and laugh and say I had a damn good time when I was young and a pretty good body too.
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:32 AM
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Are you upset that he got naked in public or that he displayed poor judgment?

I don't understand how public nudity equals the end of civilization.
He was not nude in "public" - he was in his own suite which he rented at the hotel and somebody took pics and sold them to the "public". And yes, it some sort of "end of civilisation" when people take oics in secret, sell them to the media, the media goes all blown upo about them and their readers follow suit. It is not for us to discuss what Harry does behind closed doors. And it is bad behaviour to take secretly taken pics from that situation and make them public. I just wish all well behaved members here would simply ignore this look into Harry's private life as this is a part of him noone needs to know about (except maybe his future bride, but as there is none yet, it's nobody). I personally doubt the queen is interested in these pics and Charles and Camilla surely just have a laugh.
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:34 AM
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Could you explain what you mean by a "good girl".
When I was a child in the sixties, a good girl was soo modest she only shared her clothes in a dark bedroom under the sheets... So a "good girl" was never ever seem as even having knees, for she was always covered up completely... Seems some old behaviours have survived till today. Astonishing.
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:36 AM
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This is the world we live in guys...don't do things today that might cause you trouble in the future.
Or if you do, find your own stance and don't read the papers.
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:37 AM
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He can have fun and be naked all he wants, he's an adult...I think the bigger issue is that for all the years he's been famous, he still didn't have the intelligence to have his guards confiscate cell-phones before the fun began. Those will pics will last forever.
But can the security officers do things of that nature?

The only reason I ask, is that in the States, the Secret Service is tasked with protecting the President and Vice President as well as their families, and when one of the Bush daughters was caught (or it was reported I can't remember the specific facts) trying to purchase alcohol (while she was under the legal age of 21), someone asked why didn't the Secret service agent stop her.....and it was reported that they can't interfere with anything she does ...they are just there to protect her

Now I bring up this not to bash or disparage the Bush girls (who I think are lovely young women) but just to give an example of what the protection officers cannot do in the States. The same would have been applicable for Chelesa Clinton, Patti Regan or the Obama girls,etc.

Maybe the same apples for Harry's protection officers. There to protect Harry but not to judge and say, Perhaps, you should not do that sir. Or would like to on a pair of pants?! So the only thing they could have done was just watch the happenings...

Though to be honest, I think a lot of people (besides Harry) might have a tongue lashing regarding this.
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:38 AM
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I'm not shocked or appalled by the nudity, but I do think Harry displayed a serious lack of judgment by getting naked in front of complete strangers.

I do wonder what the reaction would be if these pictures were of Beatrice or Eugenie though. Would people be okay with them getting naked and hugging up on random strangers, or would they get condemned for it?
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:38 AM
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I personally doubt the queen is interested in these pics and Charles and Camilla surely just have a laugh.
Not a chance. He's a public figure and a representative of Britain, plain and simple. Naked pictures of him being splashed all over the Internet and morning news shows while everyone is sipping their coffee is embarrassing to say the least.

If he wants his behavior behind closed doors to stay private, he needs to learn how to manage those around him. It was true 100 years ago and it is true in the camera phone era.
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:40 AM
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I can't help but finding all this hysterical. Obviously this is a rather unfortunate situation for Harry to be put in, especially because he's a member of the BRF, but he's young and I am very certain that a lot of other young people have done the same thing, Harry's just unfortunate that he got "caught". People are overreacting galore. Buttgate 2012.
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:40 AM
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But can the security officers do things of that nature?
Celebrities routinely have a member of their entourage confiscate mobiles of anyone who enters their room. It's insurance against this sort of thing happening.
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:42 AM
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Or if you do, find your own stance and don't read the papers.
If not even that. With technology, things last FOREVER.

Somewhere in the world, in Germany, in the States, in England, etc. There is some young man or a young lady (around 20 or so) ...that is going to do something not so bright. Whether its taking a naked picture of yourself for the love of your life (or who you think is the love of your life but lets face it your 20 so you don't know), trying drugs for the first time (not that I am condoning that), or something else that isn't that smart.

Flash forward 20 or 30 years...you are now married to the love of your life (the real kind not that stuff you thought was love), and you are thinking of running for office. Guess what someone finds in a box of old pictures, or stored on a memory drive..you got it...that naked picture of you from 20 years ago. Or they remember you guys tried drugs for the first time in the dorms. Guess who now can make a quick couple of thousands of dollars...Guess what might haunt you.

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I'm not shocked or appalled by the nudity, but I do think Harry displayed a serious lack of judgment by getting naked in front of complete strangers.

I do wonder what the reaction would be if these pictures were of Beatrice or Eugenie though. Would people be okay with them getting naked and hugging up on random strangers, or would they get condemned for it?
I think we all the know the answer to that. You only have to read some of the comments of Sarah showing up at the Olympics w/ Beatrice and Eugenie. You would think she punched some guy on the corner and stole his ticket to get in the venue.

There is definitely a double standard both here at TRF and the court of public opinion. For some, the sins of the child come from the parent.

But in this insistence, this is all Harry. And while some may forgive him, the rakers (the people who I believe rake up everything bad thing you ever done in life) will never let him forget it. He wore the Nazi uniform at age 17, and while I don't condone his actions....people are still talking about that...and that happened in 2005!
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