Harry and Meghan: Relationship Musings

[Rhea6]

^does Harry have a motorcade wherever he travels ?

I am still not convinced about this "alleged meeting" though . I mean on that particular day Harry had an event to attend right ?

N how can Meghan slip in n out of London / KP without the slightest hint let alone a pic of her . Seems unlikely !

 

[jacqui24]

N how can Meghan slip in n out of London / KP without the slightest hint let alone a pic of her . Seems unlikely !

She has done that before. We would get reports after the fact, but no pictures. There are a lot more restrictions on paparazzi in Britain than US. In fact, there was no pictures from her trip to London when they went to Botswana. The Sun only have the photo in the airport in Africa. NOTHING in London. We didn't know when she came in and how long she stayed in London.

 

[Dman]

Actually, I don't expect Meghan to be at any event or public engagement with any other members of the BRF until after a marriage takes place. We have to remember that when members of the BRF are out and about doing engagements, its "work" and not like meeting Aunt Flo for lunch.

Most we'll see is Meghan with Harry around places but I wouldn't even speculate on that happening until after an official engagement is announced.

I talking about events almost similar that Catherine attended when she was a girlfriend.

I know there’s no more upcoming weddings or graduation ceremonies that the royals will attend, I’m talking about Harry and Meghan attending some kind of family related event with some members of the family present.

 

[Rudolph]

The motorcade from the hello video could’ve been anyone. Maybe Prince George was craving a cheeseburger or something ?

 

[Osipi]

I talking about events almost similar that Catherine attended when she was a girlfriend.

I know there’s no more upcoming weddings or graduation ceremonies that the royals will attend, I’m talking about Harry and Meghan attending some kind of family related event with some members of the family present.

The thing is, if its a family related event, it'll be private and no photos of it. Only thing I can think of that would be slightly possible is maybe at a polo game where some members of the family are also there as spectators. Even then, I wouldn't count on Meghan being present and photographed without being officially engaged. Most likely too, even a polo game with multiple BRF in attendance would also be to benefit a charity or two that the royals are patrons or president of and hence would be an "official" CC listed event and hence "working" so no Meghan in the picture.

I seriously don't think we're going to see Harry and Meghan going about in open public at all until the engagement is officially announced.

 

[jacqui24]

The thing is, if its a family related event, it'll be private and no photos of it. Only thing I can think of that would be slightly possible is maybe at a polo game where some members of the family are also there as spectators. Even then, I wouldn't count on Meghan being present and photographed without being officially engaged. Most likely too, even a polo game with multiple BRF in attendance would also be to benefit a charity or two that the royals are patrons or president of and hence would be an "official" CC listed event and hence "working" so no Meghan in the picture.

If they are playing in the polo game, I don't think that'd prevent her being there. The tennis game for IG was also in the CC.

 

[Osipi]

We'll just have to wait and see what happens next. You made a good point there Jacqui.

I do think that once they brave the crowd anywhere in the UK, we're going to see more and more of them. They're just holding onto their privacy as long as they possibly can and I don't blame them.

 

[duchessrachel]

The members of the cast started posting pictures of vacation about 5 days ago, so timing wise, it's definitely possible. Although I don't know how much of the details I trust.

And the Queen takes tea at 5?!?! What time does she take dinner?!

I have read several books lately on the BRF and in the books it seems that dinner is very late like around 8:00. But, that was years ago, so I don't know what it would be now.

I actually like the idea of St. George's Chapel. It's beautiful and historic. Plus, I think it would better fit Harry's position. How many guests do you think would be invited to his wedding? And the types of guests Just speculating, of course. That gives a pretty good idea of the venue.

I have been wondering lately, too, about the number of guests. Since Meghan is American I am thinking there would be more American dignitaries at her wedding than were at W &K wedding. Also, she lives in Canada, which is also part of the Commonwealth, so there would probably be dignitaries from there. Then, of course, people from the UK. It could end up that their wedding has quite a few guests.

I'd be interested in seeing what the guest list for William and Kate consisted of, then we might have a better idea as to the number. A good number of people at the Cambridge wedding were invited because of William's position as the future king. Some of those invited may not be necessary for Harry.

Is there anywhere online that lists who the guests were at W & K wedding? I would love to know.

 

[jacqui24]

We'll just have to wait and see what happens next. You made a good point there Jacqui.

I do think that once they brave the crowd anywhere in the UK, we're going to see more and more of them. They're just holding onto their privacy as long as they possibly can and I don't blame them.

I do have to note that the tennis game was rather unusual for BRF as a whole. I know in the past, Chelsey and Cressida went to certain things too. However, at least in Cressida's case, she showed up with her family and he showed up to do his duties and then they sat together, which was what happened at the closing ceremony. But they showed up to the tennis game together rather than him having his staff escorting Meghan in and he goes separately. And they sat together and she even shook hands with some of the participants and spectator. If they were married and she was the Duchess of X, it's likely to be the same scene, maybe without the handholding? That's the part that I found a little surprising, but maybe it was more relaxed being that it was in Canada.

Is there anywhere online that lists who the guests were at W & K wedding? I would love to know.

This is what Wikipedia has. I still think the foreign royals would be invited. Even if the monarch doesn't attend, they'd at least send representatives just like the Queen does to foreign royal weddings. However, the foreign royals seem to like weddings. The areas I think the list will be cut is religious figures, politicians, foreign heads of state, and governor generals. I don't think military number will go down because of Harry's involvement. It might not be as high ranked, but I can see number not necessarily going down. I'm not sure if there is really 1100 to cut unless they really trim it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wedding_guests_of_Prince_William_and_Catherine_Middleton

Meghan has resurfaced in Toronto.

Meghan Markle shoots scenes for Suits in Toronto | Daily Mail Online

 

[Dman]

The thing is, if its a family related event, it'll be private and no photos of it. Only thing I can think of that would be slightly possible is maybe at a polo game where some members of the family are also there as spectators. Even then, I wouldn't count on Meghan being present and photographed without being officially engaged. Most likely too, even a polo game with multiple BRF in attendance would also be to benefit a charity or two that the royals are patrons or president of and hence would be an "official" CC listed event and hence "working" so no Meghan in the picture.

I seriously don't think we're going to see Harry and Meghan going about in open public at all until the engagement is officially announced.

Well, people said this same thing when William and Catherine dated. Yet, she attended William’s Garter investiture, she attended his graduation ceremonies and family weddings. Her first meeting with The Queen wasn’t even with William. She met The Queen personally at Peter and Autumn’s wedding. William was in Africa, at Jecca’s brother’s wedding.

Just thinking that there might be some sort of public occasion where some members of the family and Meghan can be present.

We’ve come a long way when the young royals, their partners and cousins used to party together at night clubs.

 

[O-H Anglophile]

Well, people said this same thing when William and Catherine dated. Yet, she attended William’s Garter investiture, she attended his graduation ceremonies and family weddings. Her first meeting with The Queen wasn’t even with William. She met The Queen personally at Peter and Autumn’s wedding. William was in Africa, at Jecca’s brother’s wedding.

Just thinking that there might be some sort of public occasion where some members of the family and Meghan can be present.

We’ve come a long way when the young royals, their partners and cousins used to party together at night clubs.

Dman, I really can't think of anything family related coming up where Harry could take Meghan and be seen in public. There's an equestrian event in December that Zara might be in, but Harry hasn't attended in the past. They've already done polo, but no photos of Meghan with William from that one and no other family was there. There's the Queen's Christmas family Christmas lunch where we get arrival and departure photos--but girlfriend/boyfriend are not invited--only if you are a fiancee/fiance.

I think they've all mostly moved on from the nightclub scene.

 

[Humbugged]

Were Prince Harry to be made a Garter Knight next year it would increase the likelihood of St George's Chapel [the 'Garter Church'] being the choice of Wedding venue. #JustSaying...

Going on previous form it will be a another decade before is inducted .

Anne,Andrew and Edward were all in their 40s when they were inducted .Gloucester and Kent were in their 50's and Alexandra was 70 .

The younger end has been Phillip before he got married ,William in his twenties and Charles at 10 (before he became PoW) .But those 3 are the exceptions

 

[jacqui24]

Going on previous form it will be a another decade before is inducted .

Anne,Andrew and Edward were all in their 40s when they were inducted .Gloucester and Kent were in their 50's and Alexandra was 70 .

The younger end has been Phillip before he got married ,William in his twenties and Charles at 10 (before he became PoW) .But those 3 are the exceptions

I would also think that Prince Charles would want to be the one giving it to Harry. William's was an exception since I believe he was the 1,000th to receive such honor.

 

[Humbugged]

I would also think that Prince Charles would want to be the one giving it to Harry. William's was an exception since I believe he was the 1,000th to receive such honor.

You are right about William being #1000 .And I think you are right that Harry would probably be the 1st that gets inducted under Charles

 

[Skippyboo]

You are right about William being #1000 .And I think you are right that Harry would probably be the 1st that gets inducted under Charles

More likely that would be Camilla. Consorts are usually the first to be given the Garter during a new reign. Edward VII, George V, George VI gave their consorts in the first year of reign.

 

[Dman]

More on the Harry and Meghan Speculation-
Will she be Princess Meghan or the Duchess of Sussex? | Daily Mail Online

 

[Pranter]

Maybe she will be both.


LaRae

 

[cepe]

More on the Harry and Meghan Speculation-
Will she be Princess Meghan or the Duchess of Sussex? | Daily Mail Online

She will be Princess Henry of Wales or The Duchess of X (titles)

She will be a princess of the UK (same as Catherine)

She will not officially be Princess Meghan (although people will call her whatever they want)

EDIT: I've attached this to the wrong post! Never mind! LOL

 

[TLLK]

Thank you for the explanation cepe because we know that this question will be asked again and again.

 

[ROYAL NORWAY]

More on the Harry and Meghan Speculation-
Will she be Princess Meghan or the Duchess of Sussex? | Daily Mail Online

It's been a long time since I read a whole Fail article from Richard Kay, and I regret that I did, because it's one of the most silly things I've read.

A wedding to Harry is unlikely to take place on a beach in Jamaica — if only because the Queen, 91, and Philip, 96, no longer fly long-haul. But the days when Meghan, as a divorcee, and Prince Harry couldn't marry in church are over. The reason the God-fearing Prince Charles married Camilla in a civil ceremony was because, as heir to the throne, he is the future head of the Church of England.

So Harry could conceivably marry in one of our great cathedrals, as royal tradition would normally dictate — such as Westminster Abbey, where William and Kate were married in April 2011.

The feeling among courtiers who have watched Harry grow up, however, is that he will want to do something different.

There is hypothetical talk of a wedding in Canada. Even if the Queen herself were not there, the idea might appeal to her in principle because Canada is part of the Commonwealth.

1. Even if the Queen was in her seventies, the Harry wedding would have taken place in the UK.

2. A wedding in Canada? Is he drunk or something?

 

[AdmirerUS]

It just makes me happy to see the number of photos that we now have where one or the other of this couple is looking at the object of their affection with noticeable appreciation. It's not goo goo eyes; it's not all loved up (how I hate that phrase). It's one person looking at another and smiling that "I really like you" smile. I see that same smile on people celebrating their 40th wedding anniversaries. Fingers crossed for these two.

 

[Pranter]

He's just trying to get attention by making up crazy theories.


LaRae

 

[Nico]

Richard Kay is still mourning the golden age of the Diana Years. He's just trying, again, to get a part of the royal cake...Harry and Meghan adventures are just pure caviar for him.

 

[Mermaid1962]

Yes, a wedding at St. James Cathedral in Toronto, and then a honeymoon in Niagara Falls.

2. A wedding in Canada? Is he drunk or something?

 

[Curryong]

I like Niagara Falls though things nearby are sometimes a bit tacky. I don't think that Harry would mind that at all! However, the groom and bride's preferences aren't really at the top of the agenda at a royal wedding.

 

[Countessmeout]

If he was picturing a wedding at a waterfall, I think he'd be picturing something more exotic like Victoria falls, considering his love of Africa.

The ridiculous story about titles

Surprised took this long. Seriously, could anyone be foolish enough to believe that it may be under discussion. The queen has never made a daughter in law, not alone Kate, a princess in her own right. Like there is any chance at all that she would do it for Meghan. Of course she will be HRH Princess Henry, Duchess of X. A lazy royal reporter trying to get hits by misleading people who don't know enough about royals to know better.

 

[MARG]

You certainly called that right! The same goes for where he might marry when he puts the overseas option in. That is never going to happen as his grandparents couldn't make such a trip and he has not been slow at telling us how he feels about both of them.

Shutting them out is just not going to happen, but then again, an overseas wedding would mean the greater part of his family would be unable to attend due to engagements immediately prior or after the wedding day.

And then there is the most obvious reason why it is never going to happen. Name me a country that would be happy to suffer the inconvenience of a royal wedding, not to mention who would have to pay for it. This is the British Royal Family, not the Casiraghi's and I am betting that there will be at least some requirements to be met for the government, not to mention coverage for the nation.

 

[angieuk]

Apparently it now seems St George's Chapel; early Summer

What I am surprised at if true?

Strictly Private Wedding - NO TV Camera's/or Filming.

So the same as Lady Helen Windsor, in 1992?

Will Meghan Markle be Princess or the Duchess of Sussex? | Daily Mail Online

 

[Curryong]

If the Fail knows any details about Harry's wedding I'll eat my hat, and I will be flabbergasted if there is no filming for TV. I will bet good money that there will be.

 

[Alliec76]

If the Fail knows any details about Harry's wedding I'll eat my hat, and I will be flabbergasted if there is no filming for TV. I will bet good money that there will be.

I'd have to agree. It maybe a pared down affair compared to William's but I can't see it not being televised. I get that he is the grandson of the reigning monarch (and not the heir) and that her other grandchildren who have gotten married did not have their weddings televised (except William who is or course going to be king someday), but neither Zara or Peter are working royals either. Harry is and Meghan would be. I think that makes a difference. I think the Queen and the Palace are probably willing to give Harry a lot of leeway in what he wants, but I think this is one thing that there wouldn't be a lot of wiggle room on. And honestly as private as Harry is, he's also pretty media savvy, I think he knows that there are a lot of people in the public who would really want share this day with him and Meghan. So I just don't see any possible wedding (can we get to the engagement first! LOL!) not being televised.

Edited: Oh and I thought of another thing. If the British people are paying for any part of the wedding, I'd expect that there are a lot of citizens who would expect to be able to see it broadcast. Now if Harry or his family are going to pay for it privately I guess then all bets are off. But you can't have a publicly paid for wedding in private.