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Old 09-05-2017, 06:31 PM
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He never used the "L" word. He just confirmed he and Meghan were dating.

Maybe it is a cultural problem, but, on our side of the Atlantic, or at least where I live, saying in public that you are in love with someone is a big deal, especially when the person you are supposed to be in love with has not publicy said yet he is in love with you too.
Who is entitled to speak first? Is it only the man who can figuratively shout his love from the rooftops, or are the in love couple supposed to speak in unison?

Surely most American women are willing to speak of love or anything whenever they wish. (Speaking as an American woman who initiated the first date, the first I love you, and who heavily promoted a proposal 38 years ago... I considered myself adept enough to recognize when a man was interested in me, and I didn't believe in wasting time.)

Men who don't like strong women would never be interesting to me, nor interested in me
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Old 09-05-2017, 06:38 PM
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Who is entitled to speak first? Is it only the man who can figuratively shout his love from the rooftops, or are the in love couple supposed to speak in unison?

Surely most American women are willing to speak of love or anything whenever they wish. (Speaking as an American woman who initiated the first date, the first I love you, and who heavily promoted a proposal 38 years ago... I considered myself adept enough to recognize when a man was interested in me, and I didn't believe in wasting time.)

Men who don't like strong women would never be interesting to me, nor interested in me

Even being a pretty conservative person I agree with you on this! Why is it okay if the man says it...but not if the woman does...she has to wait on him before voicing her opinion?

For the record when I met my husband he suggested getting together sometime..I said okay how about lunch on Monday. Neither of us have what you would call 'meek or mild' personalities.


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Old 09-05-2017, 06:41 PM
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The fact is, that Meghan hasn't benefited from this relationship monetarily, as she has closed down lucrative deals, is supposed to stop her acting career, has stooped all social media activity. This vanity fair interview won't do a thing for her if they break up. So, saying, that she's getting publicity through this relationship just seems untrue and not fair.
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Old 09-05-2017, 06:52 PM
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I've deleted a huge number of posts due to in-fighting/personal attacks. Let me repeat one of the ground rules we established at the beginning of this thread:

This is a discussion forum, so there will be a variety of opinions. Some of those opinions you will agree with and some you will not. No matter how you feel, please remember to be respectful of one another. You can disagree without resorting to personal attacks.

As has been clearly established, there are some people that are fans of Meghan and Harry and some who are not. As long as members are respectful and follow the forum rules, all opinions are welcome. If you feel that a post is violating the forum rules, please report it, instead of disrupting the thread.

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Old 09-05-2017, 06:55 PM
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One thing with the ragtag sleaze publications is that they're all specifically trained to be "spooners". Something happens and its their job to stir the pot and create disention about things. They make money because this is what some people believe and feed on.

I can instantly tell sometimes when someone comes on TRF and expresses opinions that sounds like they've come from these publication or information sites that thrive on negative gossip. What we have here at TRF is a place dedicated to staying away from that kind of drivel and all opinions are valid as long as they can be backed up by a credible source.

For me, Vanity Fair has a reputation for being credible and well worth what they print. The Sun, The Fail and other sensational sleazebag publications I wish were totally banned from even being mentioned here as a source for information. I do admit that the Fail has excellent photographs and occasionally print something worthwhile but its a very rare occasion.
Vanity Fair did a nice interview with one of The Queen's Equerries last year. I thought that article
https://www.vanityfair.com/style/201...te-secretaries

and this one featuring Meghan were both appropriately done. Meghan's first Vanity Fair interview that she did at the One Young World Summit in October 2016 was also good.
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Old 09-05-2017, 06:56 PM
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The point of the interview was to elevate her profile and confirm again for the public that she and Harry are very serious about each other, and it's appearing three weeks before the start of the Invictus Games, one of Harry's signature achievements, which this year is being hosted in the city Megan lives.

They're moving their relationship from a private one to one most of the public knows about, and that seems smart before an engagement announcement.
I agree - I also think this interview may have been part of a negotiation btwn the palace and the production company to control her press appearances and exit Meghan's character. Meghan most likely has a publicity obligation in her contract and if the palace were to give this large of a get (in a controlled manner) that could get her out of other less quality press appearances.

But signs definitely seem to point toward things moving forward for the couple.
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Old 09-05-2017, 07:00 PM
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I agree - I also think this interview may have been part of a negotiation btwn the palace and the production company to control her press appearances and exit Meghan's character. Meghan most likely has a publicity obligation in her contract and if the palace were to give this large of a get (in a controlled manner) that could get her out of other less quality press appearances.



But signs definitely seem to point toward things moving forward for the couple.


I hadn't considered that (her publicity obligations for Suits) and I think it's a very good point
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Old 09-05-2017, 07:13 PM
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The problem with this is they weren't writing about his personal life. They were tearing his girlfriend to pieces by making inappropriate racial remarks and insinuating that she's a porn star. Then then it became a security issue when photographers that were stalking her mother and trying to break into Meghan's home. Very different from this.

In fact, this was very clear point from Harry early on. Just look at that letter. He acknowledged the natural interest in his personal life, but said a line was crossed in their behavior, and that's what he took issues with. He also made the exact point when he gave Camilla Tominey, the reporter who broke the story about him and Meghan, the only exclusive interview from his Caribbean tour. That was not done unintentionally. But places like DF will never understand the point here.

And also, I'm not sure why he's miffed about British press being excluded. She gave an interview to a reputable publication. Not a tabloid. That rules out most of the daily papers that's been writing extensively about them in UK.
Aha I posted something very similar, almost word for word before seeing this. Same minds lol
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Old 09-05-2017, 07:14 PM
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Now, this is just me musing about things that come to mind when I'm not really thinking about anything in particular. Its a big maybe, perhaps and even a bit of a "how would it be". Thanks MichelleQ2 for being the seed for this fragment of my illumination that could involve the Palace and the production company being in cahoots about things.

Most likely, if Meghan has any indication that she will be leaving Suits and not renewing her contract, how cool would it be for Harry and Meghan's wedding to coincide with her final episode of Suits? If this couple does get engaged and all eyes turn towards a royal wedding, I'm sure that Suits is going to be mentioned quite a bit in the information given about Meghan in the run up to the big day. It would be a sensational perk for Suits to join in all the happy hoopla and promote Meghan's final episode in the run up to the wedding.

I think this would be a glorious idea. Suits has had a very successful run and most likely will be seen in syndication for years to come.
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Old 09-05-2017, 07:26 PM
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The point of the interview was to elevate her profile and confirm again for the public that she and Harry are very serious about each other, and it's appearing three weeks before the start of the Invictus Games, one of Harry's signature achievements, which this year is being hosted in the city Megan lives.

They're moving their relationship from a private one to one most of the public knows about, and that seems smart before an engagement announcement.
I think you are correct. Last year Harry said Meghan was his girlfriend. Now Meghan says she and Harry love each other. They have both acknowledged their relationship. These are the first steps towards a more official relationship.

I still think the engagement will be announced once Suits has finished filming and her commitment to the show is over, and the wedding will be sometime after the final show of the season is broadcast.
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Old 09-05-2017, 07:34 PM
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Now, this is just me musing about things that come to mind when I'm not really thinking about anything in particular. Its a big maybe, perhaps and even a bit of a "how would it be". Thanks MichelleQ2 for being the seed for this fragment of my illumination that could involve the Palace and the production company being in cahoots about things.

Most likely, if Meghan has any indication that she will be leaving Suits and not renewing her contract, how cool would it be for Harry and Meghan's wedding to coincide with her final episode of Suits? If this couple does get engaged and all eyes turn towards a royal wedding, I'm sure that Suits is going to be mentioned quite a bit in the information given about Meghan in the run up to the big day. It would be a sensational perk for Suits to join in all the happy hoopla and promote Meghan's final episode in the run up to the wedding.

I think this would be a glorious idea. Suits has had a very successful run and most likely will be seen in syndication for years to come.
That's not going to happen. Nor would it be a good idea.
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Old 09-05-2017, 07:51 PM
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I know, but don't you think it's time to change that rule ? If they can't talk together about their relationship before an engagement, then I think she should not have talked at all about their "love", or should have let Harry come out first. I know it may sound terriblly old-fashioned, but that would have been the proper way to do it, especially given Harry's rank.
Talk about confusing here........someone on this forum please tell me what is so darn wrong with telling anyone else in this world that you are *In Love* with another human being regardless of *RANK*.

They are *In Love* with each other. There is nothing wrong with them being in love or wanting a relationship or marriage or babies or a life of their own..........*Nothing* yet some here are hell bent on trying to bring hell's fury on this couple.... it is uncalled for. I have read this entire thread and it is getting worse by the minute and YES I know we are all entitled to our own opinions here, yet the trolls are out in full force and it is nasty and mean and hateful....why can't people or anyone else just be happy for them, wish them well and let them have a life of their own which by the way that is just what they will do anyhow.........is this how any one would treat their family member or friend's relationship?

Times change this is not the 1800 or the 1900 or any other day but today and we should just accept that.

There is no way MM did this without the approval of Harry.....no way in h*ll, they are committed to each other and that is it! I liked the interview regardless of when it was done, who was there, who approved it, whatever, it is out there and both are in LOVE with each other......I for one wish them well and long life of love!
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Old 09-05-2017, 09:10 PM
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I think there are people in this thread and on this forum who have very rigid ideas of what sort of person is acceptable as a Royal spouse. Whether it is Meghan's current occupation, her current citizenship or something else--Meghan apparently does not meet the criteria they have decided is appropriate.

I admit when the news broke that Meghan and Harry were girlfriend/boyfriend I wondered why, and wasn't sure it would last--but as I learned more about Meghan I began to see why Harry might be attracted to her and how she could fit into his life--private and public.
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Old 09-05-2017, 09:46 PM
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The funny side
I was in the train station waiting room the news was on the big screen. Harry and Meghan came on and every head turn to watch young old men women all watching. Lol
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Old 09-05-2017, 10:17 PM
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I was in the train station waiting room the news was on the big screen. Harry and Meghan came on and every head turn to watch young old men women all watching. Lol
As much as I hate to say this. Looks matter. Them being an attractive couple helps. It certainly was a factor in the Diana/Charles/Camilla situation. Not saying it makes everyone love them, but it creates interest. Good or bad.
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Old 09-05-2017, 10:27 PM
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Whether it is Meghan's current occupation, her current citizenship or something else
Sadly, my suspicion is that is the mostly the something else.
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Old 09-05-2017, 10:27 PM
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I think this article says the engagement is on and this piece is meant to be a roll out. This would not have been done without Harry's approval or BP's or CH's knowledge. The U.S. coverage would be insane - local girl makes good and the historic slant of a woman of color marrying a senior member of the BRF. There would be some tough questions asked such as racism that has been confronted in the relationship and light hearted fare such as her fashion sense. She would be judged as how she serves the U.K. as its princess/royal duchess. This will be fascinating.
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Old 09-05-2017, 10:33 PM
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To be honest and frank and from my point of view, I personally think while the interview she gave was ok it wasn't a good call. That and the photo shoot was ill-advised. Knowing what she's up against and the prejudices that surrounds her relationship with a member of the BRF - she should have known better. She had been doing so well up until that point.

I'm British and Britain as a society in general are pretty straight-laced. This may sound hypocritical and judgmental, but that is the reality of the matter. It just plays into the hands of her enemies if you ask me. I accept there was nothing sordid or overly suggestive about her poses, still, when it comes to our Royals and being becoming a part of it, especially via marriage - its best to keep your head low and just get on doing good deed like helping with good causes.

Again, I personally don't have an issue with the path Meghan is following and I think she's pretty cool and I support her regardless. Yes, she has given up quite a lot and made sacrifices. It's also undeniable she receives vile treatment from a cross section of the tabloid press and on a selection of discussion boards, even more so than any other previous royal girlfriend/wife-to-be.

It's still a choice to go the whole hog and decide you want to marry into a Royal family, because believe me when you fall in love and enter into a seriously relationship with a member of the BRF, you are essentially marrying the Firm. And buying into the Establishment with its tradition as it stands, however unfair that may seem.

I am not a backward-thinking person by any means. But even Meghan herself must know, surely, that piece is hardly going to endear her to the Queen and the very conservative community she'll dwell in once and if she marries Harry.

Moving forward, She needs to live her life but keep her head low and avoid unnecessary publicity that could potentially be misconstrued as salacious or exploitive . Unless conducted and done in conjunction with Harry, his family and advisers. Sorry but that piece hasn't the hallmark of a coming-out-piece orchestrated or aided by a Palace PR. I'm fed up watching her get ripped apart unfairly, but this was a misstep of sorts, just my opinion.
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I don't think because some people are already biased against her, that Meghan should not do a discreet interview/photoshoot where she confirms her relationship.
I didn't read anything the Queen would find objectionable in anything she said.
I really do believe this signals a turning point in Meghan and Harry's public relationship and it is only the beginning.
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Old 09-05-2017, 11:15 PM
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I like Meghan's photo shoot and article and I'm glad Vanity Fair was chosen to do this. The Vanity Fair article and exclusive photographs of The Queen, done by Annie Leibovitz last year were well received. At least Meghan chose VF and not just an exclusive to a tabloid.
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