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Old 09-05-2017, 04:59 PM
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The diary editor for the DM has a say. No good comes from an interview like this. Reporters are miffed the British press was excluded.

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So Prince Harry attacks the press for writing about his love life, then #MeghanMarkle gives big interview about their love life. Confused.
Again, he never did attack the press as a whole. To paraphrase, the statement made clear that certain tabloids had 'crossed a line'. And the very next day his press office when queried gave an example of one such comment piece with the offensive racial undertones. The mail was called out on it basically which they weren't very happy about and have since continued to go on the attack re Meghan, rippling her character apart with slurs and innuendo and sometimes just outright plain nastiness. Paying half siblings she's had very little to with since childhood money to tell tales about her. And the DF so-called journos getting very personal with their articles basically doing hack jobs on her almost daily thus inviting with dog whistles the vile abuse and ridicule she has suffered and had levelled at her by their readers - readers the majority of whom you can categorise from the racial prejudice/abuse displayed in the comments.
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Old 09-05-2017, 05:01 PM
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It's also worth noting again that this interview took place before their recent trip to Botswana. I think that lends a little credibility to the theory that they became engaged there. (That this step towards moving Megan into the spotlight had already happened before their big trip)
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They won't do an interview together until their engagement interview.
I know, but don't you think it's time to change that rule ? If they can't talk together about their relationship before an engagement, then I think she should not have talked at all about their "love", or should have let Harry come out first. I know it may sound terriblly old-fashioned, but that would have been the proper way to do it, especially given Harry's rank.
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Old 09-05-2017, 05:06 PM
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I know, but don't you think it's time to change that rule ? If they can't talk together about their relationship before an engagement, then I think she should not have talked at all about their "love", or should have let Harry come out first. I know it may sound terriblly old-fashioned, but that would have been the proper way to do it, especially given Harry's rank.
Harry did come out first, in november last year. He issued an official statement regarding his relationship with Meghan. If that isn't coming out, I don't know what is.
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Old 09-05-2017, 05:07 PM
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One thing that does stand out for me with Meghan doing this interview solo and with a reputable media agency such as Vanity Fair is that she is maintaining her own sense of identity. This is probably one thing that Harry admires about her. She is her own person, she is strong enough to take on what ever comes at her, she has successes that she's accomplished all on her own without riding someone else's coattail and most important, she loves him.

This is a woman that will mesh well with the British Royal Family and the "Firm" and be able to stand by Harry's side but also not be squeamish about tackling things on her own. These two are forming a team where neither one of them seems to want to be the dominant partner and they will work very well together. Its not a case of her conforming with the BRF or the "Firm" but rather the ability to mesh with it and work to promote it the best that she knows how.

Every spouse that marries into the BRF has adjustments to make and things to get used to and that takes time and practice. Both Harry and Meghan are looking to a bright future with a life together and with a solid foundation in love, trust, respect, friendship and supporting each other's individuality, I think they'll be great for the BRF going into the future.

Reminds me of a Charlie Brown sweatshirt my dad always used to wear while coaching little league baseball. "How can we lose when we're so sincere?" This sums up Harry and Meghan for me.
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Old 09-05-2017, 05:08 PM
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I know, but don't you think it's time to change that rule ? If they can't talk together about their relationship before an engagement, then I think she should not have talked at all about their "love", or should have let Harry come out first. I know it may sound terriblly old-fashioned, but that would have been the proper way to do it, especially given Harry's rank.
I don't get this at all. There are two people in this relationship, and for the general public to get to 'know' Meghan, she should be able to talk in public. I don't get why Harry is the only one allowed to speak. My thinking is, that Harry doesn't want Meghan to stay quiet in the background, he wants her to have a voice, not just be in the shadows.

On one hand, you want old traditions to change, and for them to give an interview before they're engaged, but then keep other traditions the same, and for her to simply be quiet, while Harry does the talking.
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Old 09-05-2017, 05:09 PM
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Oh I'm sure they will- and they likely will be seen together in the lead up to the wedding, as Camilla was with Kate.
Did Camilla and Sophie do engagements together in 2005?
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Harry did come out first, in november last year. He issued an official statement regarding his relationship with Meghan. If that isn't coming out, I don't know what is.
He never used the "L" word. He just confirmed he and Meghan were dating.

Maybe it is a cultural problem, but, on our side of the Atlantic, or at least where I live, saying in public that you are in love with someone is a big deal, especially when the person you are supposed to be in love with has not publicy said yet he is in love with you too.
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Old 09-05-2017, 05:11 PM
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I know, but don't you think it's time to change that rule ? If they can't talk together about their relationship before an engagement, then I think she should not have talked at all about their "love", or should have let Harry come out first. I know it may sound terriblly old-fashioned, but that would have been the proper way to do it, especially given Harry's rank.


Harry released his own official statement confirming the relationship and calling her his girlfriend almost a year ago. He did get to come out first.

All she did in this interview is confirm she's as serious about the relationship as he is, in a publication that's treated as a serious outlet and has been trusted in the past to feature both William (who gave them an interview) and Kate (who gave them a fashion spread)

Most of the Royal reporters and observers are seeing this the same way many of us here are- as the first step in a carefully calculated roll out of Meghan as Harry's future wife. (See twitter feeds of Emily Andrews, Victoria Arbiter and Richard Palmer)
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Old 09-05-2017, 05:13 PM
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I don't get this at all. There are two people in this relationship, and for the general public to get to 'know' Meghan, she should be able to talk in public. I don't get why Harry is the only one allowed to speak. My thinking is, that Harry doesn't want Meghan to stay quiet in the background, he wants her to have a voice, not just be in the shadows.
I also think that it has to do with maturity and experience in handling the media. I don't think we've had a royal girlfriend that was this savvy in handling the media. Sophie could've been, but she was more used to handling press for others rather than be the story herself. Like I said earlier, this isn't a good strategy for everyone, but for Meghan, it's best for her to tell her story than anyone else.

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Harry released his own official statement confirming the relationship and calling her his girlfriend almost a year ago. He did get to come out first.

All she did in this interview is confirm she's as serious about the relationship as he is, in a publication that's treated as a serious outlet and has been trusted in the past to feature both William (who gave them an interview) and Kate (who gave them a fashion spread)

Most of the Royal reporters and observers are seeing this the same way many of us here are- as the first step in a carefully calculated roll out of Meghan as Harry's future wife. (See twitter feeds of Emily Andrews, Victoria Arbiter and Richard Palmer)
Honestly, I haven't seen anything about being miffed that the UK publishers are shut out. Some have questioned whether it's hypocritical to ask for privacy and then do an interview. However, I don't see this as any more hypocritical than William and Kate ask for privacy for their children and then does a photoshoot with the kids. They understand there is interest, and they will work with you, but they won't tolerate wrecklessness and intrusiveness. Most seems to understand that fine line. The most serious criticisms I've seen came from DM and the Sun's reporters, which are the two publications that have been ruled to have inproper reporting when it comes to this couple (the Sun having to apologize to both Meghan and Harry that their headline suggests she was in porn and Mail having IPSO ruled their publication of the Jamaica photos of the couple was intrusive and against regulation amongst other things).
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Old 09-05-2017, 05:20 PM
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Well if a bunch of glossy come hither photos and Meghan getting Serena Williams endorsement is part of a carefully planned 'role out ' then Markles PR need their heads checked.

I can't see how this interview endeared her to Brits or helped her cause.
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Old 09-05-2017, 05:20 PM
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He never used the "L" word. He just confirmed he and Meghan were dating.

Maybe it is a cultural problem, but, on our side of the Atlantic, or at least where I live, saying in public that you are in love with someone is a big deal, especially when the person you are supposed to be in love with has not publicy said yet he is in love with you too.
Were we doubting he loved her when that statement came out? Really?

I will agree that I can't remember when was the last time we heard any members of the royal family to say they are "in love", but that's quite refreshing, don't you think?
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Old 09-05-2017, 05:22 PM
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Well if a bunch of glossy come hither photos and Meghan getting Serena Williams endorsement is part of a carefully planned 'role out ' then Markles PR need their heads checked.

I can't see how this interview endeared her to Brits or helped her cause.
Serena Williams is one of her close friends, they asked her for a quote and she provided a harmless one.

The idea that those photos are "come hither" is rather sexist and gross and the kind of criticism a man would never receive.

Pearl clutchers gonna clutch their pearls I suppose, but I don't think most people will see much in that interview that could possibly be objectionable.
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Old 09-05-2017, 05:24 PM
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I'm reading some comments here and there on different communities and people seem to be unimpressed with Meghan covering VF and talking about Harry. I wonder what the general consensus is of the people across the UK.
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Old 09-05-2017, 05:27 PM
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I'm seeing actually quite a lot of positive feedback. I guess it depends where we read.
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Old 09-05-2017, 05:28 PM
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Well if a bunch of glossy come hither photos and Meghan getting Serena Williams endorsement is part of a carefully planned 'role out ' then Markles PR need their heads checked.

I can't see how this interview endeared her to Brits or helped her cause.
In all the outfits, there was one that can potentially be lower cut than what royals would be typically seen in, but otherwise, she's in a dress and in a turtle neck. This is tame by any fashion definition. Although, Kate did wear a very low cut dress to the state dinner for the Spanish King and Queen, did you accuse her of come hither too? And really, I think all of Meghan's neckline for this shoot is higher than that. I really hate to compare the two, but let's have some objectivity here please.

And let me be clear before it even gets started. No, I didn't have a problem with Kate's dress, just thought we'd establish some appropriate dressing standards here.
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Old 09-05-2017, 05:29 PM
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Serena Williams is one of her close friends, they asked her for a quote and she provided a harmless one.

The idea that those photos are "come hither" is rather sexist and gross and the kind of criticism a man would never receive.

Pearl clutchers gonna clutch their pearls I suppose, but I don't think most people will see much in that interview that could possibly be objectionable.
But what was the point of the interview? So Meghan can do a photo shoot and tell us she loves Harry?

This is a care fully planned role out?

How has this interview made her any more endearing to Joe or Jane Bloggs?

It's not surprising to me that celebrity Meghan is the first royal girlfriend to give an interview prior to an engagement.
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Old 09-05-2017, 05:34 PM
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It's not surprising to me that celebrity Meghan is the first royal girlfriend to give an interview prior to an engagement.
Its also not surprising that the first royal girlfriend to give an interview prior to an engagement is one that is adept at interviews and with public speaking. No previous girlfriends had any kind of experience in that area before.
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Old 09-05-2017, 05:35 PM
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I'm glad Meghan gave this interview. To me she came across endearing, funny, down to earth, and accommodating. I'm glad to hear she and Harry are in love. I'm glad she spoke herself, and doesn't need Harry by her side to be able to speak.
Personally I'm tired of the royal gf hiding in the crowds, never addressed in public. Meghan showed in this interview, that she's her own person, and I'm 100% sure Harry supports this as well.
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The point of the interview was to elevate her profile and confirm again for the public that she and Harry are very serious about each other, and it's appearing three weeks before the start of the Invictus Games, one of Harry's signature achievements, which this year is being hosted in the city Megan lives.

They're moving their relationship from a private one to one most of the public knows about, and that seems smart before an engagement announcement.
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