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Old 11-13-2017, 12:08 AM
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A poll conducted by Opiniom Researct for the Daily Express. Interesting that that Meghan’s isn’t very high in Britain. I thought the closer we get to a wedddiing , the numbers will go up. The sooner she moves to London and and rolls ger sleeves up the better

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/87...n-approval/amp
I’m not seeing how she could roll her sleeves up for anything until an engagement is announced as far as the public is concerned? It’s odd that a girlfriend of 18 months is included in a poll like this with no engagement announcement. Other members are measured by their work and public appearances, of which she has none and will not have any in UK until an engagement.
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Old 11-13-2017, 12:17 AM
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Reality is even when an engagement is announced she cant really roll up her sleeves any. She wont be doing royal duties until she is married, or attending royal events. And even until marriage, her charity work in the UK is limited.
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Old 11-13-2017, 03:06 AM
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I've removed the discussion about storylines/characters on Suits. Let's keep this thread focused on Meghan and Harry's relationship.
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Old 11-13-2017, 08:23 AM
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The founder of Opinium is walking back Meghan's results, with the caveat that she needs more public appearances for the people to get to know her. I think this guy doesn't want his company or poll to be blamed if the queen doesn't give consent and Harry and Meghan are over based on these results.
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Old 11-13-2017, 08:48 AM
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The founder of Opinium is walking back Meghan's results, with the caveat that she needs more public appearances for the people to get to know her. I think this guy doesn't want his company or poll to be blamed if the queen doesn't give consent and Harry and Meghan are over based on these results.
I highly doubt the Queen cares what these polls say. She's more interested in what Harry thinks
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Old 11-13-2017, 08:52 AM
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The founder of Opinium is walking back Meghan's results, with the caveat that she needs more public appearances for the people to get to know her. I think this guy doesn't want his company or poll to be blamed if the queen doesn't give consent and Harry and Meghan are over based on these results.
I highly doubt Meghan and Harry would be over over these results or that the Queen would deny them the consent to marry over it. He’s walking back because it is true and it didn’t make sense to put her in this poll in the first place.
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Old 11-13-2017, 10:59 AM
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I highly doubt Meghan and Harry would be over over these results or that the Queen would deny them the consent to marry over it. He’s walking back because it is true and it didn’t make sense to put her in this poll in the first place.
Exactly. If Meghan and Harry were to be over, it would be because something happened between them, not from the results of some ridiculous poll. And if the Queen was not going to give consent for Meghan and Harry to marry, she'd have let that be known way before now.
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Old 11-13-2017, 11:22 AM
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I disagree i think the Queen does carry about polls if she didn`t the monarchy would not have move with the time or change since Diana death when the polls again showed at that time the monarch was not in good standing
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Old 11-13-2017, 11:40 AM
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I disagree i think the Queen does carry about polls if she didn`t the monarchy would not have move with the time or change since Diana death when the polls again showed at that time the monarch was not in good standing
Sure they care. I've always said that the BRF cares about PR and public opinion. But they don't base everything they do on it. Especially not based off of one poll of dubious quality. Not all polls or polling companies are created equal.
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Old 11-13-2017, 11:52 AM
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It would be foolhardy for the BRF to actually base things on popular opinion or polls that show up. The general public only actually sees the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the machinations of the monarchy and the royal family's "Firm".

Just like we've recently seen all the disinformation about the Queen's finances and the offshore tax havens, the general public reacts to what the media feeds them and we all know there are many, many disreputable publications out there.

All in all, I don't think the BRF pays over much attention to this kind of stuff.
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Old 11-13-2017, 12:33 PM
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When we talk about the decisions Harry is making regarding the privacy of his relationship, it's often mentioned that he and William learned a lot from watching the media hound his mother. Well, in regards to polls and popularity it's probably good to remember that they've also had a great lesson in their father's experience. Camilla seemed to be considered Public Enemy No. 1 at one point but by judiciously keeping their relationship behind closed doors--known to the world, of course, but largely invisible--for a number of years Charles and Camilla weathered the storm, were able to pick the right moment to start being seen in public together, and now are enjoying the same sort of public attention as any married royal couple instead of her still being treated as a pariah.

I'm sure the lesson William and Harry learned from that was that they can be true to their own heart when picking a spouse. Even if the woman they love isn't wildly popular at first, time and care can smooth out even very rocky roads where public opinion is concerned.

All that said, even if the poll numbers meant much of anything (I think they're silly at best), Meghan is getting pretty good public response at the moment for a girlfriend who's stayed mostly out of sight. That half of the people polled even knew who she was to have any response at all is actually somewhat impressive, given how little attention is paid to her outside royal-watching circles.
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Old 11-13-2017, 02:54 PM
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Harry and Meghan are not over and they will not end their relationship over some so-called opinion polls. And the Queen is not going to deny Harry's request to marry Meghan, if she were she would have told Harry way before now. I think she has already given him permission and that they are already engaged.

And finally, do you all actually think Harry cares what anyone thinks? Harry is going to do EXACTLY what he wants to do. And we all know it!
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Old 11-13-2017, 06:00 PM
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I have never given credence to the notion that they are already married but I have to admit, that funny little mannerism he seems to have picked up, rubbing his left ring finger makes me think he may even wear a ring when he finally marries.
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Old 11-13-2017, 07:26 PM
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I disagree i think the Queen does carry about polls if she didn`t the monarchy would not have move with the time or change since Diana death when the polls again showed at that time the monarch was not in good standing
Some facts again:

1. Yes, they care and the palace does their own polling.

2. Most polls showed that support for the monarchy was as high as ever during and after Diana's death, and the Queen's Ipsos MORI approval ratings was at above 70% (with exception of one poll in 1998 that showed 66%). Above 80% and sometimes 90% since 2002.

3. Opinium started with monarchy polling in 2015, and their polls always shows lower support than those by Ipsos MORI, Populus, YouGov, ComRes and Sky who have the support at 70%/80%. And to ask people whether they approve of George, Charlotte, Peter Phillips, Zara Phillips, Mike Tindall, Sarah Ferguson and Meghan Markle is just ridiculous and shows again how unserious this poll is.

Read more about this and other polls in this post:
Support for the Monarchy in the UK
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Old 11-13-2017, 07:32 PM
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I'm curious - how do we know that the palace polls and polls about popularity? Support for the Monarchy in the UK speaks to various polls, but there is nothing about a poll belonging to the palace and what it contains?
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Old 11-13-2017, 08:00 PM
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I'm curious - how do we know that the palace polls and polls about popularity? Support for the Monarchy in the UK speaks to various polls, but there is nothing about a poll belonging to the palace and what it contains?
It would be called internal polling, like the polling candidates do on their own campaigns. Those results aren't usually released for public consumption. Has the BRF ever made public that they poll? Not to my knowledge, but I'm willing guarantee they do. Maybe not a lot, but just enough to take the public pulse every once and awhile. They'd be foolish not to.
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Old 11-13-2017, 08:02 PM
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Proably the way politic parties do there own internal polling. They don’t worry about it the way politicians do. They’re not up for election but it’s good to get they general lay of the land
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Old 11-13-2017, 09:42 PM
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I'm curious - how do we know that the palace polls and polls about popularity? Support for the Monarchy in the UK speaks to various polls, but there is nothing about a poll belonging to the palace and what it contains?
1. Fact 1 in my post had nothing to do with facts 2 and 3.

2. Internal polling (polls commissioned by the palace) has taken place since the 1990s, and both Dickie Arbiter and other former courtiers have spoken about it on both BBC and Sky. I've also read about it in several places, but can't find much information now, with the exception of this:

A quote from an anti-monarchy guardian article from 2006:
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...mment.monarchy
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But the palace's internal polling claims that only 19 per cent want a republic
A quote from the ''The Windsor Dynasty'' book:
https://books.google.no/books?id=Vwm...FRC8AQ6AEILjAB
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It is known that Buckingham Palace has commissioned public opinion research.
I hope this helped?
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Patrick Adams and Meghan eye the Exit door from Suits.

‘Suits’ Nears Season Eight Order as Stars Patrick J. Adams, Meghan Markle Eye Exit – Variety
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Old 11-14-2017, 01:22 AM
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This makes sense and I'm surprised I hadn't considered that Patrick would be looking to leave as well. He is after all a newlywed himself. And his wife, though she visits him in Toronto, is based in LA. Patrick leaving when Meghan leaves, would solve the problem of how to wrap up their storyline.

I'm still not convinced we get an engagement announcement this month, but we're getting close I think. :-)
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