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Old 05-23-2006, 09:55 AM
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Duties, Roles and Royal Training of the Princes

I was wondering what some people's opinions are, on the boys doing more royal duties? I would hope after Sandhurst
William would start more royal duties. It'd be nice to see William and Harry doing some together.
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Old 05-23-2006, 10:35 AM
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I think the boys, should be doing more royal duties. Expecially William. As you stated I would hope william would start
more after Sandhurst but, I'm not sure if that will happen. William doesn't seem to interested in royal duties to me. Harry will probably end up doing more than him. The spectrum of royal duties for the boys is a bit odd. Compared to the otherEuropean royal families. I often forget that they are the grand children of the monarch, and not the children of the monarch. Even though a lot of the current princes and princess (like Princess Madeline of Sweden) are around the same age of the two boys. Overall yes I agree, the boys should do more royal duties, not a ton, but just a few to help them prepare for the future ya know?
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Old 05-23-2006, 12:42 PM
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Both William and Harry are carrying out the Queen's plan, which is for them to finish their military service and then begin taking on official duties. Most likely, Harry will assume more responsibility for The Prince's Trust and his own charitable works, while William will be closely guided by The Queen and Prince Charles in taking on more representational duties in preparation for becoming King.
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Old 05-23-2006, 01:00 PM
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At the rate that things in the British royal family change, William will be in his late 50's before he takes any throne because it doesn't look like the Queen is ready to relinguist anything to Charles. I think both men (William and Harry), although they will always be boys to me, should develop their own lives. Hopefully they can learn the lessons from their father, I think it must be awful to have to wait your entire life to actually take on the role you have been trained for, not to really have a valid purpose. I think Charles has done a good job trying to define what his life stands for. I hope William and Harry are given the same chance. I especally think it will be a lot easier for Harry then William to take on the charities he wants.
I personally think that the Queens children should be the ones to do the royal duties since really no other grandchildren are required to take on royal duties. I don'tthink they should be pushed to perform until Charles is King.
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Old 05-23-2006, 01:02 PM
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Yes, I agree reba. But you never know when charles may take the throne, no ill will towards the queen but, tommorow is promised to no man. So maybe adding on a royal duty here and there for now. Then whe Charles becomes king (I've always thought he'd have a bit of a short reign but you never know) they would take on more, expecially william.
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Old 05-23-2006, 01:50 PM
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As the Queen and Prince Philip start to take on fewer duties because of their age, the younger generation will have to do more unless the plan is to decrease the scope of royal duties. William and Harry will have to start doing more sooner or later, but it wouldn't be fair to them or their army colleagues to start piling royal duties on them just at the moment.
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Old 05-23-2006, 02:41 PM
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If Harry does get his wish to be on active duty, it would be rather difficult for him to pop home and do a bit for charity.

If William chooses to be a real Officer and is also sent on active duty, the same would apply.
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Old 05-23-2006, 03:12 PM
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Prince William and Prince Harry will taking duty for his late mother's legacy work.

Prince William is current president of football but Harry been flew to Africa for second time visit kids Harry still kept Diana's work lots.

but the brothers will work lots for Diana and more proud of her
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Old 05-24-2006, 01:42 AM
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I guess it is kind of hard for William being at Sandhurst to do too many royal duties. He has 3 patronages now but can't really spend much time with them.
Harry seems to have gone the route of his father- he's still young, but set up something of his own (with another Prince)that he could be passionate about for his whole life!:) I don't know about how he'll balance that and the Blues and Royals though. I'll be interested to see what William does when he leaves Sandhurst
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Old 05-24-2006, 08:43 AM
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Your opinion of William and Harry

we seem to have this kind of thread for the other royals, so I thought it'd be cool to add one for the boys. :)

I'll reply later, as I now have to get off the computer and take a long nap :o
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I think Charles has done a good job trying to define what his life stands for. I hope William and Harry are given the same chance. I especally think it will be a lot easier for Harry then William to take on the charities he wants.
In fact, I think Charles has done a marvelous job in raising both of these boys after Diana died. Perhaps Diana's beauty and love for her boys overshadowed Charles' love for his sons. Their appears to be genuine love and respect between the three of them and they are there for each other according to statements made from the three of them in the press. William also has made defensive statements of Harry's troubles and his father's charity work. You can see in their actions so far that the three seem to have sat down and discussed their life and future and how to prepare for endless years of both positive and negative media coverage of their both professional and private lives.


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I personally think that the Queens children should be the ones to do the royal duties since really no other grandchildren are required to take on royal duties. I don'tthink they should be pushed to perform until Charles is King.
That is so true. Even though Peter and Zara have no titles, they are still the Queen's grandchildren and free to live without royal duties. Then there is Viscount Linley and his sister, who are both without the pressures of performing those duties. Even though both of Charles' sons are immediate heirs to the throne after Charles', they also are young and deserve to make their life without having to do a lot of royal duties. They have a lot of pressure on them in completing military duties, finding future wives, creating charities or roles in charities, etc. Maybe two functions a year would be right number. Afterall, they are also involved behind the scenes in any celebrations of the Queen herself that requires their presence.
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Old 10-07-2007, 10:24 AM
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Having a job is extremely over-rated. I have one and I can avouch to that.

If someone gave me an income where I could do whatever I wanted for the rest of my life, you can bet I would jump on it. I wonder if many people's anger at Kate not having a job is because they themselves have to work to make a living.

But William's love life is retold countless times in the stories of many privileged young couples across the world. They're young, have money, and are a bit directionless now, so their love life is predictable. William dates a girl he meets at school, they party together at trendy expensive nightspots, they break up, they go their separate ways for awhile, they get back together. This story has the chance to repeat itself with William many times and with many girlfriends.

I think it will be awhile before William is the actual King so he has a while to get settled. I wouldn't take anything he does now seriously. I read in an article recently that the twenties are the new teens so that is why a lot of twentysomethings (although not all) act like teenagers.
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Old 10-07-2007, 12:37 PM
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Having a job is extremely over-rated. I have one and I can avouch to that.

If someone gave me an income where I could do whatever I wanted for the rest of my life, you can bet I would jump on it. I wonder if many people's anger at Kate not having a job is because they themselves have to work to make a living....
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… BOT, I don’t think that is the reason at all (public envy of her position). Probably moreso, many royal watcher's/publics impression of Kate stems from comparisons with young women who can be considered as equivalents to her (ie. working or developing careers when they really don’t need to because of family wealth, marriage,etc.,)
Examples: Ivanka Trump, seriously working within her fathers business … Holly Bransen, training as a doctor … Prince Joachim’s new French fiancé is in investment banking … Autumn Kelly, career in business management of some kind … Charlotte Casiraghi, interning at a British newspaper … Zara Phillips, elite level equestrian sportswoman … Kate ???

Kate Middleton showing no ambition isn’t doing herself any favours by doing very little by day and partying with a seemingly immature prince by night, she should be doing something constructive. The publicity that surrounds her as William’s girlfriend isn’t a valid excuse either.

At the same time, William is really not doing much for his own image. As a commissioned officer in the army, he can have a good time when off-duty but should not be over-drinking or making a fool of himself. He is representing the armed forces at all times and is a heir to the throne. And there is no reason why he (and Harry) can’t be deployed somewhere, if only to work inside the safety of the main base area that houses British soldiers, equipment, offices, etc.
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Having a job is extremely over-rated. I have one and I can avouch to that.

If someone gave me an income where I could do whatever I wanted for the rest of my life, you can bet I would jump on it. I wonder if many people's anger at Kate not having a job is because they themselves have to work to make a living.
Well the rumors going around as to why she wants less pap attention on her is because they are making it seem like she does nothing but shop all day and take long holidays. So obviously it bothers Kate slightly...

I agree with you though...if I could just be famous for nothing and have endless cash at my disposal...that would be great... But eventually some people need meaning in their lives that can come with doing something...even if it is minimal.

The first thing they should both do is stop complaining so much about the attention...because no one cares to be sympathetic when they go to a club full of paps. They wanted to make a statement that they were together and wanted to be photographed. I know it looks desperate to admit that on their part but...it looks foolish to make a big show the day after about privacy.
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I agree with you though...if I could just be famous for nothing and have endless cash at my disposal...that would be great... But eventually some people need meaning in their lives that can come with doing something...even if it is minimal.
Yes, that's true. I keep waiting for William to have a more meaningful role in the monarchy. Picking up a charity here and there is nice but it can't be the bread and butter of training for the throne. Its possible he is getting training in his future role in private but in that case, I think the Royal Family needs to do him a favor and make more of his training public to make the publicity he is getting more rounded.

I think Charles in his youth did go to nightclubs and hotspots quite a bit but he had very public duties which were not just showing up at some charity function so the parties weren't the source of all the news about him.
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Yes, that's true. I keep waiting for William to have a more meaningful role in the monarchy. Picking up a charity here and there is nice but it can't be the bread and butter of training for the throne. Its possible he is getting training in his future role in private but in that case, I think the Royal Family needs to do him a favor and make more of his training public to make the publicity he is getting more rounded.

I think Charles in his youth did go to nightclubs and hotspots quite a bit but he had very public duties which were not just showing up at some charity function so the parties weren't the source of all the news about him.
If he set up his own foundation that stretched to various areas or focused on one like education that would probably be a good thing for him and his brother as well.

If I had a lot of money that's what I'd do...but to each his own...
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If he set up his own foundation that stretched to various areas or focused on one like education that would probably be a good thing for him and his brother as well.

If I had a lot of money that's what I'd do...but to each his own...
I was thinking something more in the line of something that would prepare him for his future role as king.

Any celebrity can start a foundation or pick up a cause.At the very least, one doesn't need to be a royal to start a charity or a foundation.

It would be nice if William could do something that he being royal can uniquely do and that celebrities can't copy to set himself apart from the celebrity circuit.
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Ysbel and others, I have to agree with many of your comments. I'm sure the monarchy does some wonderful things. However, it is about image and right now club stories and drunk looking pictures are what the public sees.

From the end of July until now, we saw two royal duties things and the Diana memorial. I'm sure he must have been doing military and/or monarchy related things as well since reports were he only had time off in August after finishing the training course. However, the articles in the papers (I know the source of the news has to be considered) mentioned parties and vacations where he was drunk. Then the first time we actually get pictures, he is coming out a club. Videos suggest he was belligerent and very drunk. Reports said that he left, returned a few minutes later to taunt photographers, and then complained when they reacted.

I feel like he is in an "apprenticeship." An apprentice learns by working with the master. Just as he did at the jamboree, I'd like to see him go with someone such as the Queen or Pr. Anne. He can see how they do it and the public sees him working. I’m sure it isn’t easy to appear before groups and know just what to do. I don't care that he goes to a party. It just needs to appear to be balanced with something else.

I think that might be Kate's problem as well. Last fall, articles said she took the jigsaw job because it was her dream job and/or William told her it didn't look good that she didn't work. Late summer, we heard she was down to only three days a week but wanted to quit to be a photographer, her new dream job. She joined the boat thing, did a Hello shoot for PR, and then dropped out of the race. During September there were many pictures of her shopping, etc suggesting she wasn’t working at all. None of this may not be a factual representation of her and she isn’t a member of the royal family, but people begin to wonder whether, should it actually come to marriage, she will be able to handle hard work.
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From the end of July until now, we saw two royal duties things and the Diana memorial. I'm sure he must have been doing military and/or monarchy related things as well since reports were he only had time off in August after finishing the training course. However, the articles in the papers (I know the source of the news has to be considered) mentioned parties and vacations where he was drunk. Then the first time we actually get pictures, he is coming out a club. Videos suggest he was belligerent and very drunk. Reports said that he left, returned a few minutes later to taunt photographers, and then complained when they reacted.
From the end of July until now, the Queen herself has had no official duties! Her first ones are this week. Princess Anne had 3 weeks in August with no official duties and she is the royal with the highest amount of engagements. William is a fulltime army officer he has a job, the royal engagements he takes on he does in his 'spare' time, other army officers get to hang out and do whatever they want William does royal engagements.

His vacation in August was taken in Africa and in the Seycelles, both were private holidays with the media kept firmly at bay, whatever may have been written about him would have been some creative writing on the part of the newspapers desperate for stories.

The video footage of the night at the nightclub don't suggest at all that William was either belligerent or drunk. As Kate and he exited the photographers started to crowd around them, they were pushed and jostled and a police officer had to shield Kate from the crowd so she could get into the car. William can be heard clearly to say "let's just get into the car" more concerned than anything else considering the pushing crowd of photographers trying to get pictures. The car did return and that's when the paparazzi decided to follow, but it wasn't to taunt them. The newspaper The Times reported that William's driver had been caught in a one way road system that brought them round in a giant U-turn and so they ended up infront of the club again.
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