Could the princes' future wives continue working?

[Ella Kay]

Point taken, but she does have a college degree already, so I doubt the last would be as likely.

[kimebear]

Originally Posted by Odette

Preparation for that job is not always attenting royal functions. It consists of a bit of modesty, decorum, some sort of an idea that the person is serious and not always into a party mood.

Kate has been the model of modesty and decorum. No matter how many (or how few actually) photos we see of her, she is always well presented, properly dressed and usually smiling. She was also refreshingly discreet during the "breakup". I think she already has this part of The Job down cold.

[Villemann]

Originally Posted by kimebear

Kate has been the model of modesty and decorum. No matter how many (or how few actually) photos we see of her, she is always well presented, properly dressed and usually smiling. She was also refreshingly discreet during the "breakup". I think she already has this part of The Job down cold.

I disagree. Nowadays a modern princess is much more than showing up and looking good. William - I am told - is a smart guy and he knows that the British monarchy - or any monarchy for that matter -
does not need Paris Hilton!It needs a princess in tune with the times and ready and willing to pull her finger out and do the job.

[kimebear]

Originally Posted by Villemann

I disagree. Nowadays a modern princess is much more than showing up and looking good. William - I am told - is a smart guy and he knows that the British monarchy - or any monarchy for that matter -
does not need Paris Hilton!It needs a princess in tune with the times and ready and willing to pull her finger out and do the job.

I didn't imply that it was the whole job. Merely a part of it, which she appears to do well already in comparison to previous women who have married into royal families. While monarchy as a whole should move somewhat with the times, it should also maintain some of its traditional position.

Its very easy to say that "Kate should just get a job". Okay. What kind of job would be good enough to please her detractors? Anything too serious and she becomes too career oriented to be good princess material. ex: "Kate won't devote enough time to the monarchy because she spends all her time being a *_*." Anything too light (like Jigsaw) and it becomes a job just to occupy her time. What serious employer in their right mind would hire someone that comes with her own mob of papparazzi every day? They have other employees to worry about protecting. Besides the fact that she has to worry about one of her co-workers talking to the media every time she goes to the ladies room. The girl can't even leave her house without attracting attention. Can you imagine the pressure of having to meticulously do your hair and makeup at the crack of dawn just to go rowing for a charity all because the paps are just waiting to get a photo of you looking badly and making up a story about how depressed you must be? This is all before any engagement and after what happened with Sophie, it is highly unlikely that William's wife will ever be allowed to work after one.

[Ella Kay]

Originally Posted by Amelia

I agree that it is a good idea for the women that these princes marry get some sense of what it is like before the wedding. I just don't know how they can do it, everything Kate attends leads to engagement speculation - the Garter Ceremony, the two weddings, the wings ceremony, so unless they contain it to mainly behind the scenes there is not a whole lot they can do.

That's why I'm hoping the engagement (if there is to be one) is announced later this autumn, so that while William begins learning the ropes with his new slate of royal duties in 2009, Kate can begin receiving similar training from those in the royal fold on what her duties will entail. A long engagement, maybe nine months to a year, would be smart, I think, to prepare both of them for the new roles they're going to inhabit when they marry.

[Villemann]

Originally Posted by Amelia

While I think that Mary is a fantastic princess and is doing a wonderful job as Crown Princess of Denmark, there was nothing solid about her work background.


I agree that it is a good idea for the women that these princes marry get some sense of what it is like before the wedding. I just don't know how they can do it, everything Kate attends leads to engagement speculation - the Garter Ceremony, the two weddings, the wings ceremony, so unless they contain it to mainly behind the scenes there is not a whole lot they can do.

I think CP Mary did come with a very extensive CV, when she joined the Danish Royal family, but the point I really want to make is that Kate needs to pull herself out of the waiting line and into a proper job. She will in MY opinion gain much more respect if she manages to hold down a job. Naturally, she can do that. The scrutiny will always be there, but if she stays away from the nightclubs and the expensive shops and instead focuses her efforts on earning a living - even though she doesn't have to - I think she will also make it much easier for William to eventually make her his bride!

[Amelia]

My feeling with Kate is that every photo we see either has to do with her wearing on her head a bird's nest attending a wedding or in a bathing suit on a boat, at a beach somewhere far and exotic.

A bit of an exaggeration don't you think? Photographed at four weddings in three years and photographed in a bikini on two holidays, in 2006 and 2008.

[Odette]

Originally Posted by Amelia

A bit of an exaggeration don't you think? Photographed at four weddings in three years and photographed in a bikini on two holidays, in 2006 and 2008.

Outside of this forum I have no interest in Kate.
However if I try hard I can think of pictures of hers coming in or out of clubs, on vacation on or off a boat,at a sports event waiting for William to finish competing,at the aformentioned weddings/ceremonies in that low cut orange dress at some kind of a boxing match and nothing else.......excepting that long working day at her father's business.........

[Amelia]

she should get past these activities

What activities?

[Odette]

Originally Posted by Amelia

What activities?

Oh Amelia, the parties, the sunbathing,the partying and then partying some more.
It is true that the papparazzi will only try to get photos that create some sort of controversy. However it is not as if she does do anything substantive and they missed it.
We can all agree that she does not have to get a job and it would make it difficult for everyone around her if she did. Most of us can say we have no idea if she will be asked by William to marry him, however, some can say that the lady seems to be going through her young life as a second fiddle, waiting and in the meantime doing nothing. Even during the break up she did not stop going out to clubs. Isn't there anything else to occupy herself with?

[Amelia]

Originally Posted by Odette

Oh Amelia, the parties, the sunbathing,the partying and then partying some more.
It is true that the papparazzi will only try to get photos that create some sort of controversy. However it is not as if she does do anything substantive and they missed it.
We can all agree that she does not have to get a job and it would make it difficult for everyone around her if she did. Most of us can say we have no idea if she will be asked by William to marry him, however, some can say that the lady seems to be going through her young life as a second fiddle, waiting and in the meantime doing nothing. Even during the break up she did not stop going out to clubs. Isn't there anything else to occupy herself with?

What parties? What parties has she gone to in the last 8 months? Yes last summer after they broke up she went out a lot - but without getting personal what do you do after you have a break-up with a BF (if you a woman that is), she went out and had fun.

Since she left her job a jig-saw and London she is rarely photographed, and when she is it is usually when she is at a public event to be photographed. Who knows what she is doing during those days and weeks when there are no photographs but it doesn't seem to be partying.

[Al_bina]

I agree with kimebear. It is too late for Miss Middleton to find any kind of job or engage in any other activities as the latter will be seen as the PR campaign to placate the public at large and, thus, improve public opinion about Miss Middleton. In my view, she should have exerted every effort to continue working for Jigsaw. Public and paparazzi would have grown accustomed to her job and the story would have lost this sensational appeal.

[Amelia]

I'm not totally sure how the British system works in comparison to the one here in America, but I think she did get the equivalent of a master's degree. Anyone else know for sure

As far as I'm aware Kate has a Master of Arts ( Honours) in Art History, could be wrong though!

[Mermaid1962]

As I understand it, a Masters degree in the UK is similar to a Bachelor's degree in North America; it's an undergrad degree.

Originally Posted by Amelia

As far as I'm aware Kate has a Master of Arts ( Honours) in Art History, could be wrong though!

[Lemon Lyman]

No in the UK a Batchelors degree is done under-graduate. And then you do a one year masters post-grad. Some universities do however offer extended courses 4 rather than 3 years so you do a masters rather than batchelors.

For example

my cousin did her BSC in Physcology at Cardiff (3 years) and the did a Masters post grad in Social Work (1 year)

at Oxford University they only offer 4 year masters degrees - you can not do a Batchelors degree at Oxford?

[Ella Kay]

Originally Posted by Lemon Lyman

No in the UK a Batchelors degree is done under-graduate. And then you do a one year masters post-grad. Some universities do however offer extended courses 4 rather than 3 years so you do a masters rather than batchelors.

For example

my cousin did her BSC in Physcology at Cardiff (3 years) and the did a Masters post grad in Social Work (1 year)

at Oxford University they only offer 4 year masters degrees - you can not do a Batchelors degree at Oxford?

That makes sense, then, because I think she did spend four years at St Andrews. It must have been an extended master's degree.

[Amelia]

As I understand it, a Masters degree in the UK is similar to a Bachelor's degree in North America; it's an undergrad degree.

I don't know. I know in St. Andrew's they do 4 years, where in other colleges is only three or maybe that is only with some of their courses. I'm not really up on the UK education system.

[Odette]

In the Us they have a 4 year college (on average) to obtain a Bachelor's degree. Then for those pursuing a Master's it is usually another 2 years, depending on the studies.

[branchg]

We have to remember that comparing the role of a crown princess in Denmark or the Netherlands to the UK is apples and oranges. The duties and responsibilities of a Princess of Wales is far more burdensome and the tabloid media is always present.

A working princess sounds reasonable, but it has never sat well with the public and the few times it was tried (notably....Prince Edward and Sophie), it ended in disaster.

I personally do not think it is a wise move.

[Isana]

I think the original question was a wife could have a regular job after marriage and with the House of Windsor I think the answer is a simple: No. Her job will be full time royal duties. She will simply have no time for anything else. That goes for both William's and Harry's wives, IMO. Harry is a very prominent member fo the RF himself much more popular than Edward was and not even Edward's wife Sophie could keep her job hence Harry's won't either.

Before a wedding a job would of course be possible if intrusion by paps can be kept at bay and if the subject at hand is not a political one or one that could interfere with the RF's neutrality. I guess a journalist for example could have some problems being "official girlfriend" and doing her job at the same time, similarly any political work could pose a problem but other than that a girlfriend can of course hold a regular job. Whether she should is a whole other question that doesn't really belong here, I think.