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Old 01-24-2013, 11:32 PM
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He also said'too much soldier and not enough prince'. Many soldiers let loose before deployment. I have seen it many times in my family. Hope he gets the hang of being a Prince soon.
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:32 PM
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No, he certainly did not accept responsibility for Vegas, which is the hallmark of a mature person. I noticed that too.
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Old 01-25-2013, 01:08 AM
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What worries me is that he does not appear to accept responsibility for, at least, this last Vegas incident. In his military interview he said the let himself down as well as his family but in the next breath he said the media had no business reporting it, they knew he was going to the warfront.
The fact he was going to the warfront does not let him off the hook, IMO. No matter how much he might like to think so, he is not an ordinary soldier. He is the Queen's grandson, and will never be an ordinary soldier. He should behave in a more dignified fashion.

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Why can he not see that and make changes accordingly? He has been their target since birth. Get with the program.

I understand he is seriously affected by his mother's death but he is a man now and must try and wizen up for his sake and that of his potential future family.
I totally agree. It's been more than 15 years since his mother died. He still seems to be in denial, or seem to think he is owed something by the media. Being Diana's son doesn't help, of course, since an element of her celebrity follows him, but he should know that and accept that and deal with it.

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In any case, I do not understand the need for anyone to express oneself in such a vulgar, demeaning way. Perfect ammunition for his enemies!
I don't really care what he does, as long as he's discreet about it. If he wants to do things like that he should make sure he only does them behind very secure doors with close friends, not strangers he's picked up in a bar, and that there is no way that his antics are going to end up on the internet. If he doesn't take these precautions and does them anyway, he can't complain, IMO. He's old enough to know this and to accept responsibility for it.
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Old 01-25-2013, 02:25 AM
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One place I've been think of that might be a place for Harry to meet a woman that would have his interests at heart would be a woman that works for one of his patronages... such as Sentabale. I really have a feeling that if and when he does settle down, she's going to be a down to earth, sensible type of woman.
A really nice idea Osipi. But do you think they will ever get a scope for buliding up a relation..Charities are utter PR work of royals, however sincere they are, and every move of them there is widely covered and publicised. Do you think Harry can speak even a second sentaence to that gal without media blowing off the hell loose and the poor female freaking out..
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Old 01-25-2013, 02:50 AM
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I really don't see any reason why Harry needs to "own up" or feel remorse for Vegas at all. He was a young 20 something out to take the world by storm and party like there's no tomorrow which is so common to service folks about to be deployed to a war zone where its quite a bit of a different way of life totally and there is that chance that there will be no tomorrow.

He's said it himself. He works hard and parties hard. He's passionate. When something means something to him, he'll give 110% of his energy to it. Of course it was a terrible shock to him to lose his mother around 13. I think all of us that have lost parents never really get over it but the pain does ease and life goes on. When the time comes and Harry does find someone he wants to spend the rest of his life with, he'll give 110% of himself into that too I wager. He's not going to marry for the sake of being married and having heirs but because he seriously wants to make a commitment to another person.
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Old 01-25-2013, 06:49 AM
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Well Osipi, then let him and his family be proud of what he did in Vegas. Yeah, right.

By the way, he is much nearer 30 than 20. Way too old for this stupid behavior. Very unattractive. No wonder Chelsy split.

This guy sure knows how to self destruct rather than just let off steam. Very frustrating watching talent go down the....
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Old 01-25-2013, 07:40 AM
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Well Osipi, then let him and his family be proud of what he did in Vegas. Yeah, right.

By the way, he is much nearer 30 than 20. Way too old for this stupid behavior. Very unattractive. No wonder Chelsy split.

This guy sure knows how to self destruct rather than just let off steam. Very frustrating watching talent go down the....
Yes because Chelsy had a 'clean streak'
When Henry wants to settle down he will, there's no rush nor a real need if he doesn't want to.
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Old 01-25-2013, 09:56 AM
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Yes, and she does not smoke either!
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Old 01-25-2013, 04:24 PM
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Yes, and she does not smoke either!
I've seen several pictures of her smoking, drinking and wearing the most 'inventive' of outfits. She's about as 'clean' as Henry and his past.
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Old 01-25-2013, 04:35 PM
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Harry just got back from a successful tour doing active duty in Afghanistan, and some of you are making it sound like he's two steps removed from a mental breakdown and rehab.

Shall I hand out the smelling salts for next time he's seen *gasp* ENTERING A BAR?
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Well Osipi, then let him and his family be proud of what he did in Vegas. Yeah, right.

By the way, he is much nearer 30 than 20. Way too old for this stupid behavior. Very unattractive. No wonder Chelsy split.

This guy sure knows how to self destruct rather than just let off steam. Very frustrating watching talent go down the....
Since when does nearing 30 mean you can no longer party hard? And just what is wrong with partying hard anyway?
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Old 01-25-2013, 04:43 PM
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Since when does nearing 30 mean you can no longer party hard? And just what is wrong with partying hard anyway?
I agree. Not like he does Vegas every day of his life.
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Old 01-25-2013, 06:20 PM
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Harry is free to party hard until he is 105. The specific question raised was whether Harry is husband material, and certain posters opine that he is not, and the LV trip was one reason.

There is no reason to put down other's opinions by making jokes about smelling salts. If you reject the opinion, leave it be. I wonder why people are so emotionally attached to the idea that Harry is some sort of Most Interesting Man in the Universe that contrary opinions cannot be raised without some sort of put down.

As I have said before, if you wish to marry him, I wish you a lifetime of happiness. If you ask what I advise about marriage to Harry, I will give you my honest assessment.
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Old 01-25-2013, 06:28 PM
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One Vegas trip does not a villain make.

Lots of people on here preaching at Harry. He is young and single and many on here seem to have forgotten what that is like. He hasn't got anyone pregnant, hasn't run off with a circus performer; isn't playing around with married women; hasn't stolen anyone's reputation.

He is a tad naive, too honest for his own good and gives plenty of opportunities for people to preach down from the high moral ground.

What he does seem to take v seriously his his team and the men he is resposible for - being responsible for someone is what he wants in his private life. Hope he finds that person.
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It seems to be an assumption that people only party when they are young and single. If that were the case places like Vegas would have gone out of business a long time ago. I know more than a few couples, even past the ripe old age of 30, who like to party and go on trips to Vegas or the islands or the Med, and yet still manage to keep their marriages together and do their jobs. Having a good time is not just for the young. Not all of us want to retire to the suburbs, curl up with a book by the fire waiting for the grim reeper to call. I am nearing 45 but I still like to LIVE a little.
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.... being responsible for someone is what he wants in his private life. Hope he finds that person.
"being responsible for"? Interesting way to describe marriage.
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Old 01-25-2013, 07:06 PM
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Nobody has called Harry a "villain" (in fact it's been quite the opposite), nor has anyone pointed to the Vegas trip as the main indication for their opinions that this personable, energetic and sincere young man might not be quite ready for marriage. Nobody is looking down on people who like to "party" past the age of 25. Nobody is looking down on people who are not ready for marriage and in fact don't seek it at the moment; far from it, I applaud people who refuse to undertake what they don't want at the moment.

Living in the suburbs and awaiting death sounds a bit like the smelling salts dig. Wide, sweeping generalizations based on stereotypes formed simply as a way to discount an opinion that is more subtly nuanced than one is capable of addressing does not add points to one's side of the debate. In fact it detracts from it.
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What happened in Vegas, should have stayed in Vegas. He is young, single, and unattached. He was in a private room, and he broke no laws.
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"being responsible for"? Interesting way to describe marriage.
I think taking responsibility for someone, looking after them, etc certainly has worked in mine. It's a 2 way street.
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Old 01-25-2013, 07:47 PM
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What happened in Vegas should have stayed in Vegas; in fact it should have stayed in the room. As I've said before, I don't give a hoot what consenting adults do in private. But this did not stay in Vegas because one of his little playmates took photographs with their mobile phone. One of his little playmates he had just picked up in a bar. Massive error of judgment on Harry's part, because we all now know what he will do with a bunch of strangers.
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