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Old 01-24-2013, 12:35 AM
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Giraffe, I'm down for the tea cup set please! I'll buy them a Bar-B-Q!

The idea of Wills and Kate fixing Henry up creeps me out. The though of Kate's sister being the gal they push is bringing on the nausea...aarrhg.
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:55 AM
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Are there any eligible European princesses in need of a husband?
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Old 01-24-2013, 01:09 AM
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I think the question may be: Is Henry husband material yet?
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Old 01-24-2013, 07:08 AM
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Well he says he's looking (saw him talking about that last year) but I don't really see how now is a good time what with all the deployments. I'm guessing his unit will rotate back in again within a year or so.


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Old 01-24-2013, 08:18 AM
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I think the question may be: Is Henry husband material yet?
That IS the material point IMO. Without knowing the real Harry, and from what I have read and heard of him in the media, my response is a flat NO.

He appears to be a lovely, lovely, man, with a charisma and empathy that has come from his mother. But this is while dealing with people at a distance. I wonder what he is like up close and personal, day after day.

I can't help feeling that a man who grew up in the very publicly displayed morass that was his parents' marriage, the media circus gone mad, culminating in the final shattering loss of his mother just before his 13th birthday, and then yet another media circus gone mad, might need to go through years of growth and reflection before he is ready for the hard work of a monogamous, perpetual relationship.

I don't see a man who partied for two weeks straight in Vegas last year as a man who has gone through all he needs to go through before he is ready for wife and kids. Relationships are hard work - and they must be 10 times harder for those who are in the eye of the tabloid vultures.

From all I have read, Harry drinks copious amounts of alcohol, and possibly smokes up to three packs of cigarettes a day (as per the royals who smoke thread). There's a lack of moderation that makes me wonder why.

If I were close to the woman who theoretically finds herself having to make this decision, this is the advice I would give her.
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Old 01-24-2013, 08:31 AM
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Eh. I'm 28. I've been in a happily monogamous relationship for more than three years. And yet, two years ago I had a fabulous time in Vegas with several friends- strip clubs, great meals and copious amounts of alcohol included. And it was purely for fun- none of us were shipping off to Afghanistan the next month. One of my friends is a married father of two, there with his wife's blessing and he was home to be a good husband and father the next week.

I think it's a very poor way to judge Harry- looking at his private vacation with some military buddies and gathering from what you see in the press that he's unready for a serious relationship- despite the fact that he himself has indicated otherwise in several interviews.

I really thought it was high spirited fun. No one got hurt. None of it was bullying or cruel behavior. Just Harry trying to be a normal carefree man for a weekend.

I hate for him that this will be brought up forever.
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Old 01-24-2013, 08:36 AM
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Eh. I'm 28. I've been in a happily monogamous relationship for more than three years. And yet, two years ago I had a fabulous time in Vegas with several friends- strip clubs, great meals and copious amounts of alcohol included. And it was purely for fun- none of us were shipping off to Afghanistan the next month. One of my friends is a married father of two, there with his wife's blessing and he was home to be a good husband and father the next week.

I think it's a very poor way to judge Harry- looking at his private vacation with some military buddies and gathering from what you see in the press that he's unready for a serious relationship- despite the fact that he himself has indicated otherwise in several interviews.

I really thought it was high spirited fun. No one got hurt. None of it was bullying or cruel behavior. Just Harry trying to be a normal carefree man for a weekend.

I hate for him that this will be brought up forever.
You are entitled to that opinion.

If the Vegas/Caribbean thing were an isolated event, I would be inclined to agree with you, and I dreaded bringing it up because the Harry fans would jump on THAT part. Excluding that part, my opinion stands based on all that I mentioned.

This is the advice I would give to a woman I cared about who found herself in the position of deciding whether to have a serious relationship with Harry. Your advice would certainly differ.
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:11 AM
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I really thought it was high spirited fun. No one got hurt. None of it was bullying or cruel behavior. Just Harry trying to be a normal carefree man for a weekend.

I hate for him that this will be brought up forever.
I agree!
That sort of thing is what people do in Vegas!

I also didn't think it caused any harm; it's a pity the girls they invited into their private rooms weren't more discreet, but it's not like any crime was committed.
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:58 AM
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You are entitled to that opinion.

If the Vegas/Caribbean thing were an isolated event, I would be inclined to agree with you, and I dreaded bringing it up because the Harry fans would jump on THAT part. Excluding that part, my opinion stands based on all that I mentioned.

This is the advice I would give to a woman I cared about who found herself in the position of deciding whether to have a serious relationship with Harry. Your advice would certainly differ.
I think (as far as I can even judge) Harry hasn't been out drinking like he used for quite a while now. More and more of his friends are setteling down and he himself has said he is getting too old to go out much. Several years ago I would have agreed with you, know I'm not so sure.
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:39 AM
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Marry someone from TRF!!!!! What a great idea! We can all go to the wedding. Westminster filled with TRF posters!!!!
Every last one of you will be invited. We'll have a rip roaring time, well all except Harry. he of course cannot be trusted. As to whether Harry is marriage material. Trust me he will be.

Also I'm pretty sure I have royalty in the family, so win win. We can't go wrong.
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:59 AM
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If I think how that poor girl would be received by the British tabloids... not a good idea!
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:13 PM
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I think (as far as I can even judge) Harry hasn't been out drinking like he used for quite a while now. More and more of his friends are setteling down and he himself has said he is getting too old to go out much. Several years ago I would have agreed with you, know I'm not so sure.
I'm not saying that Harry did this, but he might have taken advantage of the fact that most military bases are notorious for the drugs, the drunks and the carousing. I doubt he gave up the lifestyle just because he was deployed. If one is so incluned, one will find their doom.
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:15 PM
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I'm not saying that Harry did this, but he might have taken advantage of the fact that most military bases are notorious for the drugs, the drunks and the carousing. I doubt he gave up the lifestyle just because he was deployed. If one is so incluned, one will find their doom.
Alcohol is not allowed at military bases in Afghanistan.
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:58 PM
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Every last one of you will be invited. We'll have a rip roaring time, well all except Harry. he of course cannot be trusted. As to whether Harry is marriage material. Trust me he will be.

Also I'm pretty sure I have royalty in the family, so win win. We can't go wrong.
Let me set the record straight; I hope I am dead wrong on this subject and all of you are right. I don't think Harry's a bad guy, in fact I think deep down he has a heart of gold. I'd like to see him find the woman of his dreams and live happily ever after.

And I mean it when I say if anyone here snags the fellow, you shall have that toaster and those towels, and I'm betting that tea set and BBQ, and I will go to the ends of the Earth just to find that right fascinator for my giraffe's horns, and a Pippa like dress made for one that walks on all fours.

P.S. Don't seat me with the Spencers. Or the Beckhams. I think they're utter bores. I'll sit with that new AfricanAussie girl and we'll snag a bottle of champs for ourselves and have a rip roaring time.
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Old 01-24-2013, 03:21 PM
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P.S. Don't seat me with the Spencers. Or the Beckhams. I think they're utter bores. I'll sit with that new AfricanAussie girl and we'll snag a bottle of champs for ourselves and have a rip roaring time.
I'll join the two of you there and smuggle in a box of scones to go with the champs.

One place I've been think of that might be a place for Harry to meet a woman that would have his interests at heart would be a woman that works for one of his patronages... such as Sentabale. I really have a feeling that if and when he does settle down, she's going to be a down to earth, sensible type of woman.
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:27 PM
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Giraffe, I agree with EVERYTHING you said about Henry!!! Spot on! And I too can't help like the guy, but he really needs some wisdom cells inserted in his brain.

Would love to sit with you and Osipi at this momentous wedding (oh, hang on, Osipi is out the front, next to the groom), we will make sure fun is to be had by all, even if we do have to provide the entertainment! Bring on the champs!
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Old 01-24-2013, 10:05 PM
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Harry was not partying in Vegas with friends. He was partying with strangers, who then took advantage of him. Now, his remarks about killing Taliban, were not thought out.
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Old 01-24-2013, 10:11 PM
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Why, oh why does he do these things?
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Old 01-24-2013, 10:12 PM
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I think Harry was utterly shattered by his mother's death. Some people can recover from all that, but I don't think he did given the incredibly unique and public circumstances under which he lost his mother.

While I think Harry has great potential as a Diana-figure, with various causes and charities (a trait he also gets from his Dad), I'm far too old to view any of these royals with the same rose-colored glasses I once viewed certain pop stars in my salad days. I tend to see them for who they are. They're all incredibly human.

I think he's a soul who chose an incredibly tough life this time around (if one believes such things), and his journey will be a lot tougher than some of the rest of us. I hope that journey leads him one day to a wife. We'll see.
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Old 01-24-2013, 10:25 PM
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What worries me is that he does not appear to accept responsibility for, at least, this last Vegas incident. In his military interview he said the let himself down as well as his family but in the next breath he said the media had no business reporting it, they knew he was going to the warfront. That tells me he is not accepting the situation as it was and as you described earlier in this post. The media was not at the party, they did not photograph him. The media published, he set up the rest.

Why can he not see that and make changes accordingly? He has been their target since birth. Get with the program.

I understand he is seriously affected by his mother's death but he is a man now and must try and wizen up for his sake and that of his potential future family.

In any case, I do not understand the need for anyone to express oneself in such a vulgar, demeaning way. Perfect ammunition for his enemies!
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