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Old 01-23-2011, 09:28 PM
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I too think Harry will marry a nobody. Lets hope so. I also hope that Harry marries for love and that the marriage is a successful one even if the marriages the aristocracy produces is filled with affairs. I certainly understand the points that Aotearoagal is trying to make but I hope that Harry breaks the mold and goes for someone that he is willing to work with in terms of a successful partnership. Oh and William too.
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Old 01-24-2011, 01:34 AM
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Ouch! Wherever did you get the idea that Prince William is sweetly UNroyal and. as such, is destined to marry someone with whom he has a "deep connection" whilst Harry is to be condemned in advance to at best to a convenient, loveless marriage, and at worst to become a sleazy womaniser and serial adulterer who would marry without love and expect said loveless spouse to quietly accept a cold, hard-hearted, callous cad for a husband?

Worse, that this somehow confers the honour of having "smarts" for doing so!

Hells bells, whatever has Harry done to merit such bile?
Bile? That's a bit harsh. I'm calling this based on my knowledge of aristocrats and their behaviour. It's an evidence-based assessment, not a values-based one. I am not expressing any moral assessment. The "deep connection" is in quotes precisely because I am not certain that it is such! Harry could never be cold or hard-hearted or callous. Quite the opposite. Please don't hang any ill-intent on me - I'm expressing an opinion as is my right, and shouldn't be insulted over it. By all means, argue a case!
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Old 01-24-2011, 04:47 AM
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Bile? That's a bit harsh.
Not at all, merely accurate IMO!
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Old 01-24-2011, 04:38 PM
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Not at all, merely accurate IMO!
I'm sure you are. Cheers & best wishes Marg dear, and have a fabulous day! I hope the aftermath of the earthquake is being sorted - Christchurch was such a gorgeous town.
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Old 01-25-2011, 04:00 AM
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Iluvbertie posted to article for ladies who may "fit the bill"; nobody ever specifically said "I want Alice Dellal to marry Henry" did they now?
For heaven's sake, when you are on a thread which is entitled a potential wife for Prince Harry, and from a list of women which is posted as a possible source of wives, you choose and single out one name, how can you be confused that people may assume you are putting her out there as a potential bride? Maybe if you thought about what you typed, before you typed it, you would actually see where people come to that conclusion.

And stop quoting the quote I have repeatedly said was not the quote I was referring to. The article itself is not the post. If you can't grasp the concept that is not the one I am quoting, then I give up, you lack the capability to carry on an actual debate.

So before I lose any more brain cells, I refuse to carry on this pointless debate further.
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Old 01-25-2011, 07:01 AM
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For heaven's sake, when you are on a thread which is entitled a potential wife for Prince Harry, and from a list of women which is posted as a possible source of wives, you choose and single out one name, how can you be confused that people may assume you are putting her out there as a potential bride? Maybe if you thought about what you typed, before you typed it, you would actually see where people come to that conclusion.
Not understanding this post I decided to go back and reread the thread from my post to an article with a list of rich, posh people etc. I suggested that some of the girls on that list might be possible brides without naming any of them. A later poster simply asked if the Dellal girl was the sister of another girl. I have not read any post anywhere where anyone suggested that the Dellal girl was being proposed as a wife for Harry. If you could quote the post in question - where someone actually suggests that she could be a potential wife specifically rather than simply asking for confirmation of her relationship to another person I would appreciate it as then I might understand what is making you so hot under the colour.

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And stop quoting the quote I have repeatedly said was not the quote I was referring to. The article itself is not the post. If you can't grasp the concept that is not the one I am quoting, then I give up, you lack the capability to carry on an actual debate.
If you could please post the quote you are referring to with its post number it might make it clear to everyone what you are on about.

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So before I lose any more brain cells, I refuse to carry on this pointless debate further.
Your decision of course but I don't understand what you are on about so would like it cleared up - as it was a post of mine that started it (the one with the original link)
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Old 01-25-2011, 12:43 PM
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Thank you Iluvbertie, you've expressed what I have wanted to say all along in one post.
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Old 01-25-2011, 07:33 PM
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The Church of England is Anglican. There are High Anglican and Low Anglican traditions within the Church. The Church of England has 39 Articles that state the beliefs of the Church. Presbyterianism is a branch of the Reformed faith that emerged in Scotland and has no connection with the Church of England. They're actually closer in doctrine to the Reformed Church in the Netherlands. The word presbyterian means "rule by elders", which means that elders and clergy alone run the congregations: there are no bishops within the Presbyterian tradition, but there are regional groups of ministers and elders who meet as Presbyteries.


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Old 01-25-2011, 08:08 PM
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I have recently been doing some scrapbooking of memories of my parents' with my kids and their cousins and we were looking at my parents' marriage certificate from 1952. It says they married at the Church of England church in the town where I grew up. My baptismal certificate and confirmation certificate from the same church also say 'Church of England' but my wedding certificate and the baptismal certificate of my children all say Anglican. It was the same church. What had happened was that sometime in the late 1970s the Church of England in Australia started to change the name of its churches to Anglican - I suppose to remove the work 'England' from the name of the church. The minister who prepared me for confirmation and then married me was the same man and he hadn't changed his beliefs or been retrained to change from one church to another as the name was a simple name change and nothing more.
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The churches are called Anglican here as well, although I have heard much older people call it the "Church of England," almost as a slip of the tongue.

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The minister who prepared me for confirmation and then married me was the same man and he hadn't changed his beliefs or been retrained to change from one church to another as the name was a simple name change and nothing more.
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Does anyone know whether either of the two princes has the sort of "relationship skills" that a modern girl might want in a spouse? Can they cook especially well (I realize Prince Philip says no British woman can cook well, but I am actually wondering if there are exceptions - perhaps masculine ones? If Gordon R. can cook...)? Can they give a girl a massage? Are they interested in movies or art? What kind of music do they listen to? Can they dance? (If so, what kind?) I really don't know them well. I was wondering the same thing about their dad (and Camilla). Do any of them do these ordinary things?

In relationships I see, people try to enjoy common activities, sometimes with one spouse being up on finding great books to read, the other good movies that both will enjoy. Is this part of their life totally unknown?

Because it would be way easier to pick out a wife for Harry if I knew that kind of thing. (I think he would love a Polynesian beauty who was entertaining and a great dancer...and of course, a wonderful cook, with a good head for household finance).
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Old 02-04-2011, 04:27 PM
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Nobody except people close to the royals will know the answers to those kind of personal questions.
But they will probably have their meals cooked for them, and know the rudimentary "student" cooking skills.
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Didn't William say in his engagement interview he tried to cook for Catherine and almost set house on fire in college? Did he say she could cook, I thought I remembered he did.....so maybe he is learning :)
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Old 02-04-2011, 04:44 PM
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William mentioned in his engagement interview that he tried to impress kate with his cooking. They're both in the army so they'll have survival cooking skills I imagine. As for the other questions, only people who know the princes personally would be able to say.
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Old 02-04-2011, 04:46 PM
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We have seen William trying his hand at cooking in one of those interviews he did - leaving school or leaving uni. He said then that he couldn't cook.

The royals have BBQs at Balmoral.
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Let's get back on topic...a wife for Prince Henry.
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Old 02-04-2011, 04:51 PM
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I know Princess Madeleine is currently dating but if she's invited to the wedding in April.... Well ok I can dream.
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Old 02-04-2011, 04:54 PM
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IMO, Madeleine is a Chelsy with a title.
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Old 02-04-2011, 05:16 PM
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Would that be a good thing or a bad thing!
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IMO, a bad thing because Madeleine not only has the "Princess" mindset, she comes from the laidback SWF and personally wouldn't fit into the BRF.
Chelsy knows who she is and what she wants. Chelsy puts herself first, but knows that would need to change if she married Henry. Madeleine would be the opposite, IMO.
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