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Old 11-29-2007, 04:50 AM
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MARIE CAVALLIER: ADVARES AF PARTERAPEUT - Royalt - SE og HØR
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Old 11-29-2007, 06:33 AM
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A therapist for couples/relationships says that Joachim and Marie haven't lived yet together, they don't really know each other well in their daily routine and Marie is literally buying the cat in the sack. She might be up to some unpleasant surprises e.g. finding out that life in Schackenborg isn't her thing.

I personally agree, I think the engagement came too early. Marie should have moved to Denmark and lived with Joachim first. And since she has - unlike Alexandra - given up her job already I really don't see why she is not going to live in DK before the wedding.

Well, I wish them the best and IMO she seems to match better with Joachim than Alexandra did but sometimes I really wonder whether Joachim isn't doing the same mistake he did the first time. Rushing into a marriage and then find out the person you chose doesn't really match with you. As someone else said before, if he really intends to live in Schackenborg permanently I have the feeling he has chosen the wrong woman again.
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Old 11-29-2007, 01:03 PM
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A therapist for couples/relationships says that Joachim and Marie haven't lived yet together, they don't really know each other well in their daily routine and Marie is literally buying the cat in the sack. She might be up to some unpleasant surprises e.g. finding out that life in Schackenborg isn't her thing.

I personally agree, I think the engagement came too early. Marie should have moved to Denmark and lived with Joachim first. And since she has - unlike Alexandra - given up her job already I really don't see why she is not going to live in DK before the wedding.

Well, I wish them the best and IMO she seems to match better with Joachim than Alexandra did but sometimes I really wonder whether Joachim isn't doing the same mistake he did the first time. Rushing into a marriage and then find out the person you chose doesn't really match with you. As someone else said before, if he really intends to live in Schackenborg permanently I have the feeling he has chosen the wrong woman again.
Can´t agree with you more, Ricarda.
I am also wondering why Marie doesn´t move to Denmark and live there before her wedding since she´s no more working. Isn´t it the best way to learn about a country and its language by living there? Not mention that she´s going to be this country´s princess! Is she afraid of something?!
On the other hand, Marie, like Alexandra, is also a cosmopolitan girl. I´m also sceptical about how much she will like her life in the rural Schakenborg. I also agree that Marie seems to match Joachim better than Alexandra. Alexandra is too serious for him, I think.
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Old 11-29-2007, 01:25 PM
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Perhaps Marie will travel with her Prince on Official Engagements as he does do several overseas engagements every year and her language skills will be an asset to Denmark. In that way she will get the big-city Royal life as well as the quiet country life
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Old 11-29-2007, 01:48 PM
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Can´t agree with you more, Ricarda.
I am also wondering why Marie doesn´t move to Denmark and live there before her wedding since she´s no more working. Isn´t it the best way to learn about a country and its language by living there? Not mention that she´s going to be this country´s princess! Is she afraid of something?!
On the other hand, Marie, like Alexandra, is also a cosmopolitan girl. I´m also sceptical about how much she will like her life in the rural Schakenborg. I also agree that Marie seems to match Joachim better than Alexandra. Alexandra is too serious for him, I think.
(If she had moved here, I think she would've stayed in Amalienborg to get the princess training, as the DRF do have certain standards as to living together before marriage. Gustav and Carina excepted.)
Just my impression, but as someone living in Denmark, I wouldn't want her to start out her time in Denmark with the ice-cold blowing winds of the winters in Copenhagen that partially kept Queen Maud from adapting to life as a Danish princess. What a bad first impression Much better that she starts her life in Denmark in the nicer seasons of spring and summer, and gets used to the nicer sides of Southern Jutland before winter comes.
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Old 11-29-2007, 07:10 PM
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Quite a strange article as these days extensive research has shown that couples who live together pre-marriage are more likely to divorce.

Moreover, using this logic every Royal marriage should be doomed to fail!
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:01 AM
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Quite a strange article as these days extensive research has shown that couples who live together pre-marriage are more likely to divorce.

Moreover, using this logic every Royal marriage should be doomed to fail!
But isn't interesting which stories are printed? It seems they really can't dig anything up about Marie except that she has a cousin called Frederic in Brussels. Now that's news!

As for Royal marriages and not moving in together before the wedding: there are still people who believe that it's fitting that a woman only moves into a home she is the new mistress of. That is: after the wedding. And why not. It is possible to make a marriage work if there is mutual respect - love is the little wonderful extra but a lot of people make do without it and lead a comfortable and harmonic life together. While others experience a kind of Amour Fou and live in hell. So, you never know.

As for not knowing how life in the countryside will be: it's not so hard to live in a castle in the countryside when you have an appartment in the capital as well. Plus Marie went to boarding school in the countryside (a lonely little place in the Alps) and did not seem to miss the lights of Paris or Geneva. With her life experiences she should be well able to make her own decisions and know if she could live in the country or not.

What I like is the fact that obviously both Frederick and Joachim have a circle of good friends who all have wifes who are not only partying but doing something with their lifes. So they are both used to such women and it shows in their choice of wifes.
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Old 12-04-2007, 09:53 AM
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For me it was big and not good surprise that Marie don't live in Denmark because for me it's very important that new princess will get to know her new counrty and will get some teaching too. But I really hope that she will move to Denmark soon but maybe I'm too much royalist in today world.
Talking about wedding I must say that I expected little great ones despite that J&M are not future king and queen. Afterall have understand that in Denmark royal family hierarhcy and tradition are fixed and everything must be like it must be.
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It looks like the family is trying a new way with Marie. For now she will live in Geneva and only be exposed to the royal stuff a little bit here, a little bit there. I like how the DRF is unafraid to try new ways to tackle old challenges.
The divorce arrangements for Prince Joachim may go down as one of the admirably-handled royal divorces in history. Now the family all seems to be making efforts to welcome Marie into the family, without the excessive pressures that Alexandra and Mary faced from the public glare.
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Wow, that is a nice picture of them! Marie looks so happy. They went to the Pastis restaurant in Copenhagen. I can't really understand anything else. It looks like the writer, Mia Christensen, cites from Se & Hør.
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Old 12-07-2007, 04:46 PM
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The fact that they announced a wedding date which is still quite long away means IMO that it will become quite a big event also since Marie wasn´t married before. So I expect a wedding like the one of Alexandra Berleburg in 1998. Don´t know whether Marie´s brother´s are already married and have kids. If yes, they might become the flower-boys-and girls. Felix and Nikolai will not become flower kids because they´re the children of the groom. Nevertheless I don´t expect that much European Royalty except of the closer relatives of European houses (f.i. the Greeks)
I think Marie has four brothers, no? If she did in fact share a house with her four brothers, I was assuming that they were single brothers.... but maybe I misunderstood something, or she has more than four brothers?
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That picture is old! It is not from these days!!!
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That picture is old! It is not from these days!!!

Yes, that may be true, for some of us.

Nevertheless, for those who are just starting or who may not know a lot about the DRF as well as Prince Joachim and Marie that photo is new to those them.

Please be respectful, biboquinhas.

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Old 12-14-2007, 11:23 AM
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I didn't meant to be rude - I think that photo is not from 7-12-2007! That photo was taken on another event they went together I think a dinner with some friends and also with Alexandra a long time ago in a Tivoli party! Here are some of the pictures (old ones May 2007)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...92007MCJ-c.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...drws/04301.jpg
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Thanks for the translation, GlitteringTiaras

Thanks for the link, Mitchell

Poor Marie...

and what a stupid journalist!

let that be a lesson for all the others...

a french proverb says "tel est pris qui croyait prendre" (he is taken who thought he could take)
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Hello!, can someone translate this article?
HER&NU :: HOT NEWS
Is that a new photo of them?
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HER&NU :: HOT NEWS
Is that a new photo of them?
It's about how Joachim will be given 823,596 DKR more after the wedding - Marie's allowance.

I'd be curious as to where they have the number from - because I can't see that any resolution has been added/changed in Joachim's apanage in the Danish laws, for now.
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Is that a new photo of them?
No, it was part of an interview they gave in September 2007 in France.
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Oh! Thanks Morwegianne and Her Majesty.
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