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Old 09-18-2004, 03:07 PM
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A relationship between two people is extremely complex, and it's difficult for anyone but the people involved to know all the reasons.
You're right norwegianne. Only Joachim and Alexandra know for certain what went wrong with their marriage and why it did not work out. Everything else is pure gossip, speculation and hearsay.

Most of what I've read so far, from the generally credible sources to those completely uncredible, seem to imply that Joachim is at fault for various reasons. But it's unfair to assign blame when no one has any clue about the true intimacies and intricacies of Joachim and Alexandra's marriage. To say that it's his drinking, partying, womanizing, etc. that resulted in this sad decision is unfair to him as it tells only one side of things.

The main point now shouldn't be, in my opinion, the why of the reasons behind the relationship ending; it is over and that is that. The focus now should be the well-being and well fare of Nikolai and Felix as their parents begin new lives on their own and how to ensure that these young boys aren't adversely affected or hurt by the divorce.
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Old 09-18-2004, 03:34 PM
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That's terrible to hear this sad news...
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Old 09-18-2004, 04:16 PM
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Those news articles about Joachim were disgusting...Drunk and he was pinching bottoms and being very naughty in general. Shame on him!
Although the media may just be portraying Joachim in a bad light so Alexandra won't look at fault. I'd hate to have this turn into a he said- she said fight. Poor Nikolai and Felix.
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Old 09-18-2004, 11:24 PM
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How come as soon as a Royal or Celebrity marriage breaks down there are only three scenarios to be considered:

1. He's Gay
2. He's a drunk
3. He beat her up!

Has anyone possibly considered that the five year age difference has just proved to much and they have nothing in common anymore and that seeing his brother in what is quite obviously a true love match has made him want out? I would also wonder if the cultural differences have played a part?
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Old 09-19-2004, 03:33 AM
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We don't really know the real reason for the break-up of their marriage. But those 9 years wasn't just a waste of their lives for both of them endured happiness and hardships. I know both of them doesn't regret their marriage.

I wish they would still be together after sometime. =)
I think it is everyone's wish whenever a couple thinks of breaking-up.
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Old 09-19-2004, 03:35 AM
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I know the news of Prince Joachim & Princess Alexandra divorcing is shocking and quite sad, but I highly doubt that Prince Joachim is gay. If he were gay would he really have gotten married so young? No, he probably would have said single as long as possible both people started talking. IMO, they were once very much in love when they married, but like many other couple it didn't work out. Maybe it was his fault, maybe it was hers. Most likely they both did things to end the marriage. We will probably never know exactly what happened. But the tabloids saying that Joachim is gay and a drunk is just a cheap shot at the prince. I think the way the media see the situation is that since Princess Alexandra is so popular and hardworking that the Prince must have been the one who did something wrong. When really the situation is not about either of their official roles, but rather it is about a relationship between two people.
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Old 09-19-2004, 03:44 AM
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no matter what's the true reason behind it, we'll all miss a picture like this from now on.
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Old 09-19-2004, 03:50 AM
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I know the news of Prince Joachim & Princess Alexandra divorcing is shocking and quite sad, but I highly doubt that Prince Joachim is gay. If he were gay would he really have gotten married so young? No, he probably would have said single as long as possible both people started talking. IMO, they were once very much in love when they married, but like many other couple it didn't work out. Maybe it was his fault, maybe it was hers. Most likely they both did things to end the marriage. We will probably never know exactly what happened. But the tabloids saying that Joachim is gay and a drunk is just a cheap shot at the prince. I think the way the media see the situation is that since Princess Alexandra is so popular and hardworking that the Prince must have been the one who did something wrong. When really the situation is not about either of their official roles, but rather it is about a relationship between two people.
I really agree with your statement.
I may sometimes side with Princess Alexandra or sometimes with Prince Joachim but it is not just the fault of one person but the two of them.

In any kind of relationship, it never works out if both the two persons involved doesn't give and take. It should never happen that one always gives and doesn't receive something and vice-versa.

I don't also like the way the media is treating this very important matter for the persons directly affected by this are their two children, Nikolai and Felix. Maybe they don't have yet the full knowledge and understanding of what is really going on but I know that they are deeply hurt by this hapenning. That's why I am glad that Queen Margrethe II said that the safety of both her grandchildren should be ensured.

We may not have been expecting that the misunderstandings of the princely couple would reach to the point of having a divorce but we should then respect their decision if that is for the benefit of all the persons involved.

I wish them luck in all their undertakings.
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Old 09-19-2004, 04:36 AM
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no matter what's the true reason behind it, we'll all miss a picture like this from now on.
I hope we still can find the picture like that in future, hoping they will have sometime together at least for the sake of their children (i.e. in their children's birthday event).
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Old 09-19-2004, 04:39 AM
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Quote from The Copenhagan Post http://www.cphpost.dk/get/81826.html :
<<<<<<"Our sympathies should be with both of them. But there's no doubt that Alexandra will continue to be a figure of central importance in this country," said Tamm.

It is Princess Alexandra's intention to remain in Denmark with her two young sons for the foreseeable future. Her plans for the long term are unclear - but Ditlev Tamm hopes for the sake of the monarchy that she decides to stay.

"It would be very unfortunate for the Royal Family and the line of succession if she settled abroad," said Tamm.

Claus Bjørn agrees that Alexandra still has something to offer the Danish public.>>>>>>
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Old 09-19-2004, 10:23 AM
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I strongly admire how well this couple had handled their marriage problmes so far, the only suspicious sign of problem I sensed was when PJ didn't show up at his brother's engagement annoucement. No matter how important his other official duty - visiting Saudi - was, could it more important the engagement of CP? When I saw a lonely Alex stood beside the happy CP couple, I did ask myself what's wrong with her marriage but never thought it would be in this bad shape.

Instead of discussing whose fault leads to the eventual divorce , I'd rather watch how the royal house will handle the divorce process & the after-divorce treatment of Alex, which will decide whether there will be Di-Charles-ish drama or not.

For the sake of their two little kids, it is better for them to live with their parents who are separated/divorced but happy rather than togather but fighting or depressed. A sensible & matured woman as Alex, she should have no problem to bring up their kids as healthy & happy children.

Cheer up, Alex!
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Old 09-19-2004, 11:06 AM
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I strongly admire how well this couple had handled their marriage problmes so far, the only suspicious sign of problem I sensed was when PJ didn't show up at his brother's engagement annoucement. No matter how important his other official duty - visiting Saudi - was, could it more important the engagement of CP? When I saw a lonely Alex stood beside the happy CP couple, I did ask myself what's wrong with her marriage but never thought it would be in this bad shape.
Joachim and Alexandra were both at Frederik and Mary's engagement press conference. There were very few pictures of Joachim and Alexandra (as should be the case since it was Frederik and Mary's day!) but I distinctly remember seeing two: One when Frederik and Mary arrived for the press conference and were greeted by the Queen and Prince Henrik and there was a picture of Joachim and Alexandra greeting and hugging Frederik and Mary.

Then Joachim and Alexandra attended the gala dinner celebrating the engagement. There was a formal picture taken of the two couples with the Queen and Henrik sitting in the middle.
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Old 09-19-2004, 11:58 AM
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I don't think so, because they both looked quite happy later on during the day..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...g/23645343.jpg borrowed from the CPME MB
You're right Alisa.

That was one picture from an isolated moment. The Queen and Henrik don't look all that happy in the same picture sitting in the church next to Joachim and Alexandra either but there aren't any announcements of their marriage on the rocks and getting divorced. Likely it was a long wait for Mary or just having to sit in those chair in those volunimous gowns that was uncomfortable, and after all, who can smile constantly?

I think that in hindsight, Joachim and Alexandra each did a relatively good job of hiding their marital problems. There were lots of rumours and published reports of their marriage on their rocks, but publicly, during the week of Frederik and Mary's wedding and wedding activities, the Queen's birthday, Prince Henrik and Princess Benedikte's birthday celebrations, Joachim and Alexandra looked like a perfectly content couple. I think that is why so many people, including myself, were quite shocked by the divorce announcement. Had they shown strains of marital problems publicly there wouldn't be this much shock. I can't say that too many people were shocked to hear of Charles and Diana's intentions to seperate, and that Joachim and Alexandra's announcement to do so had the exact opposite effect.
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Old 09-19-2004, 02:34 PM
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I think Joachim's having midlife crisis. He does seem to be going wild for a few months now.

As for the age difference, I think it might have played a part in them drifting apart, but not the ultimate cause of the break-up.
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Old 09-19-2004, 05:17 PM
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I think Joachim's having midlife crisis. He does seem to be going wild for a few months now.

As for the age difference, I think it might have played a part in them drifting apart, but not the ultimate cause of the break-up.
Is Joachim really old enough to have a midlife crisis? I think part of the problem on his part is perhaps he married too young. I mean he was only 25/26 when he got married, most people that age have just finished school and are starting their careers.

A 5 year age difference is not a big difference. The Queen and her husband have a 8 year difference and despite a few ups and downs it's clear they're very much in love. I mean today hollywood stars are dating people 10 to 15 years their senior/junior ... age has nothing to do with what makes a good marriage.

I think over the past few years, their personalities have become conflicted. Alexandra seems like a very hard working professional person who often puts her duties ahead of her own personal needs. While Joachim, who does perform duties well, likes to "let his hair down" more often then alexsandra.
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Old 09-19-2004, 05:37 PM
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I found it very sad to hear that Prince Jochaim and Princess Alexander are divorcing. I, however, don't blame either party for this unfortuate happening. I only hope that the children turnout alright even though any divorce whether amicable or not is dishardening to any child involved, even if they are grown. I pray that this couple took note of the mistakes made by other royal couples (Charles and Diana/Princess Margaret and Lord Swondon) and famous persons (Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman) and hold no grudges. What is done is done ,and there is no going back. Just remember the innocent children and look ahead to brighter days. And if, you cannot cannot fight as higher to love one another then done kill each other when you divorce. Remember we, the public, want remember the divorce as much as how you proceed after? Good Luck and May God Bless You All
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Old 09-19-2004, 07:39 PM
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I strongly admire how well this couple had handled their marriage problmes so far, the only suspicious sign of problem I sensed was when PJ didn't show up at his brother's engagement annoucement. No matter how important his other official duty - visiting Saudi - was, could it more important the engagement of CP? When I saw a lonely Alex stood beside the happy CP couple, I did ask myself what's wrong with her marriage but never thought it would be in this bad shape.
Do you mean this event?



If so, then Joachim was there (between QM and PH) although he didn't stand next to Alex. I think that had more to do with arranging people by height - if Alex stood beside Joachim she would be blocked by Mary even if Alex is a step up - rather than a sign of A & J's problems.

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do you think they will ever get back together
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I hope they develop a Fergie-Andrew type relationship. Those two have a very close relationship and still seem very happy with eachother. Although, the best scenario would be if they managed to work out their differences during this one-year trial separation and get back together. But that likely won't happen. :(
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I agree with you. I hope that even if they do divorce, they remain close friends. Or at the very least, on civil terms with one another. If for nothing else, then for their boys.
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