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I Agree it works so well lingo wise i wish theyd have done the same with the Crown Princes Son instead on Henri John Henrik Hans JMHO
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Old 08-03-2009, 08:34 PM
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I had a feeling they were going to name him Henrik!!

I just saw photos of him only a few weeks ago. He really is perfect, one of the most beautiful babies I have ever seen! I mean he is GORGEOUS!!

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There were two categories to the misbehaviors - the airplane making in the pews and the crying and wailing at the baptismal font.

The airplane incident was visually disruptive. If young children can't be calmed down with a snack, a book, something that is done discretely, then they can be removed from the premises by a nanny who was brought for that purpose. Nikolai and Felix don't need nannies to remove them, but should not be encouraged by adults to continue with those actions.

The crying at the baptismal font, totally interrupted the service, but was done by a very young child who obviously didn't know what was going on, and that her mother was busy with another obligation at the time. She should have been removed at her first resistance to stay where she didn't belong - and the noise she created later was not amusing.

I feel for Marie and, particularly, Joachim, to whom this service and this baby is so symbolic of a new life for him. I think it was total disrespect to allow Isabella to wail away as the bishop continued with the christening. She was not crying in the back of the church somewhere, but right at the font. Totally wrong, not cute, whether it involves royal parents or any parents.

I'm afraid I have to agree...in the British Royal family there is always a nanny discreetly tucked away somewhere close for circumstances like this. Where was little Isabella's nurse? It WAS terribly disrespectul and thoughtless to Joachim and Marie and also to the guests trying to hear the service.


I have sat through wedding and religious services with small children wailing and screaming and few things are more nerve wracking!
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Old 08-03-2009, 11:12 PM
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There were certainly a lot of positives and a few negatives about this situation.

I found Marie's inability to memorize the basic creeds of her new Faith in her new language troubling. The fact that she was adopting her new husband's religion was understandable, and baptising a newborn son in that new Faith is wonderful. However, if she can't/won't participate fully, how can she raise her child in that new Faith? It makes me ponder that perhaps she made the change only for gain and not from her own heart.

On the positive side - I've seldom seen a handsomer grouping of small children. I'm fascinated by the complexions of the two older sons of Joachim: one so clearly mirroring his mother's Eastern coloring, the other hewing to Scandanavian tones! The children of the Crown Princely couple were, just flat out, pleasant to see. I found the silvery and neutral colors of the clothing of the guests to strike exactly the right note; the White Nights, the whitewashed and slightly imperfect church exterior: the monotonality provided a perfect backdrop to the liveliness and youth of the couples with their children, representing an ongoing generation refreshment.

Yes, I know fully that these are all well staged and that a lot of thought went into projecting just such an appearance but really, I find myself enjoying it immensely. No strong and overpowering colors, no competition for "best-bejeweled;" a family welcoming a new member to its tightly knit fold.

I rarely spend this much time observing the mosaic of a royal event, but this one, for some reason - the simplicity and happiness and youthfullness of it all, the finding of joy after endings, was really heartening.
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These two posts mirror my opinion exactly with respect to the behaviors of the children and Marie's inability to carry through on singing the hymns which she must have had a part in choosing, and, more importantly, the Lord's Prayer, which, to this non-Danish speaker, had enough words similar to English that could be recognized as such.

She had three months since the birth to do some homework and be a little proficient in the language so she could participate. Joachim (like his mother) soldiered on, holding the program at an awkward angle for him but clearly easy for her to follow and sang every word and said every prayer.

Alexandra, from videos of christenings in which she participated held her own program, participated and, all the while, kept her babies from crying by letting them lie in her arms, rather than propping them up into an uncomfortable semi-sitting position.

Maybe Marie is a bit uncomfortable in the limelight and tries to smile smile smile to cover up this discomfort.

She does need to know her words when needed. I'm sure she'll do better for the next one !
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Old 08-04-2009, 09:44 AM
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I wonder if she even knows the Lord's Prayer in french ??
I am not very found about Marie's family.. I did not appreciate her mother sitting between her ex and nowadays husband.
The de Laborde de Montpezat family were Princes comparing to the Cavalier/Grassiot.
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I did not appreciate her mother sitting between her ex and nowadays husband.
The de Laborde de Montpezat family were Princes comparing to the Cavalier/Grassiot.
May I ask why?
I didn't see much of them at the christening I have to say.
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Because they are Prince Henrik's brothers and sisters.
I'm not sure I understand you?

The Cavalier/Grassiot are no relation to the Prince Consort.
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Lumutqueen , I just wonder why the family de Montpezat were not at Prince Henrik's christening. They are uncles ant aunts of Prince Joachim, such as Queen Anne-Marie and Princess Benedikte.
(I am not speaking about the Cavalier family) . Do you understand me now ??
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Several posts that were heading off on a tangent have been deleted. Please remember that Prince Henrik's christening thread is part of his TRF history. How many times do you have to criticize or chastise to push your viewpoints across? Do you want those viewpoints to appear in the little prince's history? Please don't use examples from other royal events or royal houses and be mindful of previous in-thread warnings.

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Lumutqueen , I just wonder why the family de Montpezat were not at Prince Henrik's christening. They are uncles ant aunts of Prince Joachim, such as Queen Anne-Marie and Princess Benedikte.
(I am not speaking about the Cavalier family) . Do you understand me now ??
I apologise for my confusion with what you wrote. My head must have been elsewhere.
I don't think any of the Laborde de Monpezat family have attended any danish christening.
It would have been nice to see them to attend, though.
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I was disappointed that Pavlos & MarieChantal did not attend, as well as Benedicktte's youngest daughter Nathalie did not attend.
Does Nathalie ever attend her Danish family affairs???
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I believe Nathalie had an equestrian event on the same day, so she couldn't have attended the christening.
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I believe Nathalie had an equestrian event on the same day, so she couldn't have attended the christening.
You are correct, Marsel. Princess Benedikte and her husband were also at Nathalie's event (which she won).
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I was disappointed that Pavlos & MarieChantal did not attend, as well as Benedicktte's youngest daughter Nathalie did not attend.
Does Nathalie ever attend her Danish family affairs???
May I ask why you thought Prince Pavlos and Marie Chantal would have attended?

Nathalie attends quite a few royal events. I believe she was at Prince Henrik's 75th.
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I don't know if you already got the news, but Joachim told to danish press that they told to the prince consort Henrik on his birthday that his grandson would have the same name! that's the princess who told him!! it was certainly for him the best gift he has ever received!!!

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May I ask why you thought Prince Pavlos and Marie Chantal would have attended?

Nathalie attends quite a few royal events. I believe she was at Prince Henrik's 75th.

The reason I thought that Pavlos & Marie Chantal might attend was he is Joachim's first cousin...................
Its always nice when close family attend family functions
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The reason I thought that Pavlos & Marie Chantal might attend was he is Joachim's first cousin...................
Its always nice when close family attend family functions

Perhaps the reason for Pavlos and Marie Chabtal not being ther was that they was going to have theire own christning of their youngest son...i have a fealing that ther is alot to prepare up to a christning ( i am not a parrent self and i don´t have anny younger siblings) Prince Henrik had his christning 26-7-09 and the littel greek prince had his christning 6-8-09.
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Its also important to note that while most family members will like to attend all family events. Sometimes that is not possible. As previously mentioned, the Greek Crown Princely couple were also planning a christening, and maybe just maybe they had another family obligation to attend to that we are not privy to.

Either way, I thought it was a nice affair. Princes Marie looked beautiful and the children behaved as children do. I also think it was a nice touch to name the child after his grandfather.
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Billed-Bladet has an article that talks about how little Prince Henrik was also christened in a Monpezat family ceremony at Schackenborg immediately after the christening in Mogeltonder:
Billed-Bladet - Lille prins Henrik velsignet med kongeligt ritual

His lips were rubbed with garlic and a drop of the family's Cahors wine was placed in his mouth. This has been done for centuries within the family, and is done to protect children against diseases, dangers, and also to bless them. Prince Joachim was christened in this manner, as were CP Frederik, Nikolai, Felix, Christian, and Isabella. The practice began in England with King Henry, who was also anointed with cloves of garlic and drops of wine after his birth.
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Billed-Bladet has an article that talks about how little Prince Henrik was also christened in a Monpezat family ceremony at Schackenborg immediately after the christening in Mogeltonder:
Billed-Bladet - Lille prins Henrik velsignet med kongeligt ritual

His lips were rubbed with garlic and a drop of the family's Cahors wine was placed in his mouth. This has been done for centuries within the family, and is done to protect children against diseases, dangers, and also to bless them. Prince Joachim was christened in this manner, as were CP Frederik, Nikolai, Felix, Christian, and Isabella. The practice began in England with King Henry, who was also anointed with cloves of garlic and drops of wine after his birth.
that's a really interesting tradition. i never heard of it.

i was wondering who christian scherfig is exactly. i couldn't find what his relationship with joachim and marie is - is he friends with joachim perhaps?
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