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Old 03-02-2006, 06:42 AM
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...And yet there is this constant attack on this couple. This thread, which started in early January, seems very long at 35 pages.

I think this thread has been kept going by both sides of the Mary debate. The same arguments are coming up over and over again. Perhaps everything that needs to be said has been said.
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Old 03-02-2006, 07:20 AM
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Laviollette,

I don't believe your post to have been of a "simplistic nature", but an expression of your own thoughts, and or views. Don't let a retorted comment like that effect your contribution to discussion.

I myself, have found this thread to be quite unsubstantiated with belligerent, sometimes hypochritical & repetative arguments. But, it is their right to post and as such I respect that right, though I may strongly disagree with what they have to say. Mind you, it took me a little while.lol.

Kind regards to all,

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Old 03-02-2006, 08:21 AM
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And yet there is this constant attack on this couple. This thread, which started in early January, seems very long at 35 pages.
Yes i know, it is very easy to criticize rather than praise, unfortunately :(
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Old 03-02-2006, 10:58 AM
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Laviollette,

I don't believe your post to have been of a "simplistic nature", but an expression of your own thoughts, and or views. Don't let a retorted comment like that effect your contribution to discussion.

I myself, have found this thread to be quite unsubstantiated with belligerent, sometimes hypochritical & repetative arguments. But, it is their right to post and as such I respect that right, though I may strongly disagree with what they have to say. Mind you, it took me a little while.lol.

Kind regards to all,

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I really don't appreciate it when my comments are deliberately misconstrued and meanings attributed to them that were never intended.

Rather than second guessing (and incorrectly at that) what I was thinking perhaps you should have asked me.
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Old 03-02-2006, 11:32 AM
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Laviollette,

I don't believe your post to have been of a "simplistic nature", but an expression of your own thoughts, and or views. Don't let a retorted comment like that effect your contribution to discussion.

I myself, have found this thread to be quite unsubstantiated with belligerent, sometimes hypochritical & repetative arguments. But, it is their right to post and as such I respect that right, though I may strongly disagree with what they have to say. Mind you, it took me a little while.lol.

Kind regards to all,

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Thank you, Margrethe II. :)
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Old 03-02-2006, 03:33 PM
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I don't think anyone at this forum has a problem with spirited discussion of which I hope I can engage. Margrethe II, your latest post is very well thought out and you are correct in your observations.

I hope we don't have keep reminding each other that we can express our opinions and have the capacity for critical thought.
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Old 03-02-2006, 06:05 PM
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I don't think anyone at this forum has a problem with spirited discussion of which I hope I can engage. Margrethe II, your latest post is very well thought out and you are correct in your observations.

I hope we don't have keep reminding each other that we can express our opinions and have the capacity for critical thought.
Thank you for your take on the situation Christo's Girl :)

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Old 03-03-2006, 01:46 AM
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With all due respect as far as the blonde issue goes I think for alot of people it's completely irrelevant. To suggest that people dislike her because she's not a traditional blonde haired blue eyed princess is, imo, very simplistic.
I don't think blonde would look right on Mary! As it doesn't on a lot of dark hair/eyed people. I guess I'll say it straight, I'm no Mary fan. But it isn't because of outward appearances. Having suffered being judged by my looks since I was very young, I understand how utterly unfair it is. I like to think my opinions of people are properly thought out and well informed. What I'm saying is, I wouldn't like her more just because she was blonde. Or pretty, Which in a lot of peoples opinion, she most certainly is! But that's how it is. If we all thought the same, it would get weird. Besides, I'm sure there's people I think are gorgeous that others don't!
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Old 03-05-2006, 03:21 AM
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Laviollette,

I don't believe your post to have been of a "simplistic nature", but an expression of your own thoughts, and or views. Don't let a retorted comment like that effect your contribution to discussion.

I myself, have found this thread to be quite unsubstantiated with belligerent, sometimes hypochritical & repetative arguments. But, it is their right to post and as such I respect that right, though I may strongly disagree with what they have to say. Mind you, it took me a little while.lol.

Kind regards to all,

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There are endless reasons to like and respect Mary. Every single one of them is totally valid.
There are endless reasons to dislike and not respect Mary. And every single one of them is also totally valid.
2 People look at the same thing and see something totally different. I know it's an old chestnut, but the whole Vogue and Dansk interviews. Her fans loved it. With good reason too pronbably.Others,like me, had a real problem with it, for very serious and credible reasons also.
I for one have not seen one argument here that was unsubstansiated or hypocritical. People need to realise that criticicsms are not a bad thing, but a wonderful thing! I really mean that.
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Old 03-05-2006, 02:12 PM
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i agree that criticism is for the most part good, but sometime it is taken too far.:)
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Old 03-06-2006, 07:07 AM
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That is true, we must be careful with that. We want to keep things running smoothly here. But I guess it is all ok, otherwise the moderaters would have had to have closed the thread and such. I'm a real strong believer that we would be nothing at all without criticism, and even suffering, so I never see it as a huge deal...anyway, that's getting a bit of topic I think!
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Old 03-06-2006, 09:04 AM
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People can like or dislike Mary for any reason they have, but I think, she deserves respect as a person. I dont think there are endless reasons for people to not respect her. What has she done for deserving that?
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Old 03-06-2006, 07:16 PM
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People can like or dislike Mary for any reason they have, but I think, she deserves respect as a person. I dont think there are endless reasons for people to not respect her. What has she done for deserving that?
What she has done is overshadow everyone else's favorite princess. With her style, grace and pleasant personality there is just something about Mary. She has that spark, that something that you can't explain or put into words but you know it when you see it. She always seems to know what is appropriate at the right time and in the right place. The stylish clothes don't cover up the fact that she is intelligent and has strength of character. I didn't start out liking her but I've been won over by the way she carries herself. I respect her very much.
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Old 03-06-2006, 07:29 PM
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I'm a real strong believer that we would be nothing at all without criticism
Criticism is a good thing when constructive..and for the most part, I have seen very little of that in this thread.

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Old 03-06-2006, 07:39 PM
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Criticism is a good thing when constructive..and for the most part, I have seen very little of that in this thread.

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You are very right MII!!!
When criticising, you should do so based on facts!!
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Old 03-07-2006, 02:17 AM
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Criticism is a good thing when constructive..and for the most part, I have seen very little of that in this thread.

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I agree criticism can be good but most of the criticism on this thread seems to be negative.
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Old 03-07-2006, 02:55 AM
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Have to agree with the last 4 posts. Mary has done nothing bad to warrant any nasty and negative comments. I can think of plenty people who have though:p I really like your posts Margrethe II.:)
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I have a feeling we are witnessing the last days of this thread don't you think? Finally!
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Like all threads it will run as long as members contribute to it. If no-one posts to the thread, it will gradually sink out of sight.
If members continue posting, the thread will stay alive.

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I guess it is risky when you start these sort of threads, as they can become quite contraversial. But I just wanted to sort of clear up my comments. What I meant was that to each person, they have their own reality, and I guess we can't say any of our opinions as fact, be they posotive or negative. Of course, its always nicer to hope that our posotive opinions/impressions are the true ones. I just meant that people have their own reasons that are real to them. Since we all see different things, we wont agree- but that's ok as long as, had been said before,things don't get too out of hand. I personally don't really have respect at all for Mary, but if I were to list the reasons why, it would incluide a lot of the reaons other people DO.
Though I still believe criticism will always come across as negative and is rarely constructive, we still need it as much as we need anything that is always clearly posotive. Anyway, this is getting a bit too analytical isn't it. What bothers you threads always die down, so this one will too when it's had it's time.So peace out Mary fans and all the best to you. I'm glad we had this conversation. I do mean that.It's nice to bend from the norm occasionally:)
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