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Old 06-27-2007, 12:36 AM
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Well...I also think that there must be more than one "Australian accent". Here, in Argentina, we have dozens of accents. It depends from which province you belongs. A person from Buenos Aires city would not speak as a person from mendoza or Santa Fe, or even from Buenos Aires province. So, I would not consider so odd that Australia would have more than an accent. Which is the correct "Australian" accent? I don't know. But I'm pretty sure it is not the "Hollywoodian" one.

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who did that, if i may ask?
Diana, who else? Visiting Hasnat Khan in hospital.
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Well...I also think that there must be more than one "Australian accent". Here, in Argentina, we have dozens of accents. It depends from which province you belongs. A person from Buenos Aires city would not speak as a person from mendoza or Santa Fe, or even from Buenos Aires province. So, I would not consider so odd that Australia would have more than an accent. Which is the correct "Australian" accent? I don't know. But I'm pretty sure it is not the "Hollywoodian" one.

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Yes I think we have different accents in Australia depending on which state you live in, social class and where in that state you live. I can remember when I was in high school one of my teachers told me that when she went to London people were trying to pick which state she was from based on her accent. I don't think there's a "correct" there's just different Australian accents.
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Old 06-27-2007, 05:11 AM
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I respect that others wish for a down to earth princess but I'm just afraid that that sort of princess doesn't excite my imagination about royalty and to follow royalty, my imagination must be inspired a bit.
very true, i think a down to earth princess doesnt exist. Mary does seem to have a smile, interact with people & carry her self well on official duties but it would be wrong for her not to act like a Cp but like other people around, she married into royalty, they cant cross a certain line in many things.
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This is one of the most stubborn misconceptions about Mary's relationship with the Danish fashion industry.

Do you know that the fashion industry rates very high on the list of the Denmark's most profitable exports? It's not haute couture, no doubt about that, but it is a very very profitable export branch. Do you know that at the website for the Danish foreign ministry, they offer advice for potential exporters within certain categories - and that they group Design, Furniture and Fashion together (http://www.um.dk/da/menu/Eksportraadgivning/MarkedsOgSektorinformation/Sektorinformation/Moebler/)? They don't do that to please a crown princess who might be interested in fashion. They do that because the fashion industry has become big business for the country in later years. If Mary therefore has demonstrated a 'suspicous amount of support for the Danish fashion industry', I am sure that the country's exporters are thrilled about it - just like they are thrilled about prince Henrik's activities when he actively supports Danish trade delagations on trips abroad - or Joachim's endeavours to support Danish agriculture. The long-term goal is the same: to actively promote that part of trade and industry which the royal person has been asked to function as a patron for.
a read somewhere, that after Mary became patron of the fashion industry, it has become more famous designer wise & industry has boosted up. Doesnt that say something. She patrons many different things, so why come down to fashion. Good for her, she isnt doing this for her name, she's doing it for the Danish people.

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Old 06-27-2007, 05:23 AM
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I don't really understand what the fuss is all about when it comes to Mary's accent. Why should this be wrong? That's one of the things I like about her, and also about Maxima. It's nice to hear somehting left of where they came from. THe most important thing is that she speaks Danish, right? And I cannot just if Mary speaks proper danish, as I don't understand a word of it, but if she manages giving speaches in public, it mustn't be all that bad.
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Old 06-27-2007, 05:32 AM
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telva fashion awards seem to be counted for who ever goes. elena also attended once and it was in her official agenda. however, her visits to catwalks and fashion shows (and the same goes for jaime de marichalar) don't figure in their royal agendas, which i believe is a good thing.
Regardless of who it counts for it is still a fashion related event that the Spanish royal family considers as work.

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i don't see anything wrong in mary attending fashion shows. what i doubt is whether attending those can qualify as "work" as such. i find it perfectly acceptable if she wants to attend a fashion show as private event...
That is the case. Whenever Mary attends a fashion show in a private capacity it is not considered to be work. In 2005 Mary attended several fashion shows and they were not listed on her official agenda as an engagement. What is considered work is her patronages with Danish organizations not individual designers like the CIFF which is a fashion organization. To simply say that Mary attending fashion shows is considered work is misleading and incorrect.
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This is one of the most stubborn misconceptions about Mary's relationship with the Danish fashion industry.

Do you know that the fashion industry rates very high on the list of the Denmark's most profitable exports? It's not haute couture, no doubt about that, but it is a very very profitable export branch. Do you know that at the website for the Danish foreign ministry, they offer advice for potential exporters within certain categories - and that they group Design, Furniture and Fashion together (http://www.um.dk/da/menu/Eksportraadgivning/MarkedsOgSektorinformation/Sektorinformation/Moebler/)? They don't do that to please a crown princess who might be interested in fashion. They do that because the fashion industry has become big business for the country in later years. If Mary therefore has demonstrated a 'suspicous amount of support for the Danish fashion industry', I am sure that the country's exporters are thrilled about it - just like they are thrilled about prince Henrik's activities when he actively supports Danish trade delagations on trips abroad - or Joachim's endeavours to support Danish agriculture. The long-term goal is the same: to actively promote that part of trade and industry which the royal person has been asked to function as a patron for.

(by the way, the next CIFF (About CIFF - Copenhagen International Fashion Fair) takes place on August 9-12 - and yes, Mary as a patron will undoubtedly pay a visit to the fair; she will also attend a circus galla on September 8 for the benefit of the Danish mental health fund - an area which has not formerly had much public awareness but which she has worked very actively for. Fortunately, the mental health fund appearences usually do not attract as many media people as the CIFF events so with good luck she may not be critised for attending that)


Below is an article about the crowning glory for CIFF:

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Denmark : Royal visit crowning glory for CIFF

June 19, 2007

It was the perfect touch for the 28th Copenhagen International Fashion Fair when HRH Crown Princess Mary dropped into Europe’s biggest fashion show on Sunday morning.

The lobby was packed when the Crown Princess walked in through the revolving doors but the large number of visitors has become a feature of the fair, which once again broke a string of records.


Denmark : Royal visit crowning glory for CIFF - Fashion News Denmark
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Old 06-27-2007, 07:36 AM
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i doubt anyone would critisize mary if she decided to attend disease-related events, just as no one critisized lady di for all her landmine and aids work outside the uk.

i don't see anything wrong in mary attending fashion shows. what i doubt is whether attending those can qualify as "work" as such. i find it perfectly acceptable if she wants to attend a fashion show as private event. everyone likes something: some people like arts, some others like reading, some others prefer sports (such as frederik)... but his races don't figure in his official agenda... do they? in any case... if the chief of the court of the danish house considered attending fashion shows is an appropriate activity for a princess, i think it's quite a mild activity, which doesn't really require too much effort, imo.
She hasn't attended a fashion show since she was pregnant with Christian. Yes, she attends one everytime she visits the CIFF, but that's part of the visit, to see the season's collection, obvioustly. She has to do that, as a patron of Danish Fashion.

It's not that she is critized when she attends disease-related events, it's just that noone talks about it. They prefer to critize her when she attends one of the two fashion events a year, coz most of what she does has something to do with the Danish Heart, cancer or Brain Injury foundation. There are not taken pictures of when she fx. opens a hostel, visits the patients, only when she cuts the ribbon. And that's when she's accused of being nothing but a ribbon cutter. And when she makes speaches for WHO, people just say she didn't write it herself. I mean, you say it like she never attends those health/disease events when you say "IF she decided to attend disease-related events", the truth is that that's what she does most of the time, but many of you are just closing your eyes to it, you don't want to realize it, because it's SO much easier to say "I don't like Mary, I can't say why, all I can say is that she is a fashion horse and LOVES the cameras". Now that's depth
(and no, you're not one of those people Carlota, you're posts are very argumentative, even though I don't agree at times)



And no, Frederik's sailing is not figured in their calender.
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And no, Frederik's sailing is not figured in their calender.

Are you sure about that.

Here is your answer: July 12-14 The Dexia Farr 40 2007, Skagen. Sailing.

On July 2-8 2007 is the 3rd Series European Circuit. Nanoq will participate in the Farr 40 Open Nordic Championship in the Oslo fjords. Sailing.
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I don't really understand what the fuss is all about when it comes to Mary's accent. Why should this be wrong? That's one of the things I like about her, and also about Maxima. It's nice to hear somehting left of where they came from. THe most important thing is that she speaks Danish, right? And I cannot just if Mary speaks proper danish, as I don't understand a word of it, but if she manages giving speaches in public, it mustn't be all that bad.
I totally agree princess leonor! Why the fuss about an accent, when really there is no one Australian accent to judge on
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Are you sure about that.

Here is your answer: July 12-14 The Dexia Farr 40 2007, Skagen. Sailing.

On July 2-8 2007 is the 3rd Series European Circuit. Nanoq will participate in the Farr 40 Open Nordic Championship in the Oslo fjords. Sailing.
Yes, I am sure about that.

Far 40's website is not their official calendar.
This is their official calender, and I don't see anything about him sailing.

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Old 06-28-2007, 07:20 AM
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In the end, it doesn't really matter because C.Prince Frederick married her.

Mary does pay attention to how she looks more than some C.Princesses from the pictures taken and has dramatically changed her outlook since day one. She loves fashion and wants to look magazine ready at all times. It's her prerogative! Maybe Fred likes her this way? Who knows?

Honestly, if I were in her shoes, I would probably change myself too if I were so constantly photographed. But that's because image is rather important to me and I always want to look my best at every event. :-p

Also, by marrying Fred and changing herself, she has made herself popular mainly in Aust and Europe. As long as we are discussing about the royals they will remain popular.

Mary's patronages I'm sure are dertemined by the government and fashion is a big part of it. So be it! Nothing wrong if a person loves fashion! Since we do not know her personally, we musn't judge. (I know it's hard) Being a public figure, one does have to "act" a bit. And if she's arrogant, hey, she married a prince after all!

That's my two cents worth. Have a nice day. :-)

Why not? - you have an opinions about the lady, presumably aquired from the same sources ie: photographs, so conversely have others, even if they are contrary to yours, but they are equi valid IMO.
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Old 06-28-2007, 08:58 AM
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Hello! For me Mary seems to be a person who is friendly and who enjoys her new role and life. Although recent photos she seems to be more serious than ever (or it just seems to me so). After second child she has more responsibility and no one can't smile all the time. Talking about press and photographs I think that Mary must look what to wear and how to react, because this is important. Maiby this is the reason why some people is saying that Mary is arrogant and is interested only in fashion. She's so young at the moment and her main role is to be good mother and beautiful crown princess of Denmark.
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Mary does a beautiful job as a Crown Princess of Denmark. I think she takes great joy out of the public yet distant display of her person.

‘public’ because she is being photographed,
‘distant’ because she does not really have to say anything unprepared, nothing that has not been approved (and written out) by the DRH. This should in no way suggest a shallow attitude of hers – I find that it is a very fortunate combination, that the woman who is Crown Princess actually enjoys this sort of Princess-activities.

For Mary's long-term-happiness however, I would love to see her engage in some more individual projects that really capture her heart. Looking pretty just cannot be enough in the long run. I believe she will pursue that path once the family planning is done. Given of course, that her marriage to Frederik still goes strong. And there I said it, their marriage is what I personally worry about (since I have a degree in "marriage observation based on occasional pictures that flow around" – I feel so blessed!).

I won't go into the subject of their marriage, but bring up just this one concern: What was the christening they attended just a week ago? … of some high society Millionaire? That is the company they are in now. Rich people. Oh... how I despise her for that. I whish I would see her with flip-flops again, crazy hair, and hugging her husband. I wish I would see Frederik hugging her. Why don't they do that any more? It's the private side of Mary that I never knew, yet, I must assume that is has changed ever so much.
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Why not? - you have an opinions about the lady, presumably aquired from the same sources ie: photographs, so conversely have others, even if they are contrary to yours, but they are equi valid IMO.

Wow! I got a reply on my first post! Didn't even think I would get a response.

As I said, it's my two cents worth of opinion. In my mind, everyone posting is definitely entitled to their own opinion. I respect everyone's opinion here and have been reading them for a few years.

I also admitted that it's hard not to judge - I'm not perfect!

By the way, I've edited my first post since I can understand why the sentence can be misleading. Thanks!

Have a nice day.
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Yes, I am sure about that.

Far 40's website is not their official calendar.
This is their official calender, and I don't see anything about him sailing.


Yes, I do realize that is their calender. I'm usually the one who updates and translates the Danish Royal Calender for this sub-forum. So essentially I am familiar with it and what the DRF are up to officially and unofficially.

Since you're from Denmark you know that some of their engagements are not always listed especially private visits and so forth.

Finally, most of Frederik's sailing events are unofficial and are rarely posted on the Danish royal calender.
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We seem to be straying a bit off topic here. This is about Mary's personality, not another endless argument about the types of events she attends or about Frederik's schedule.
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I would have thought that the types of events she attends are in fact representative of her character. At the beginning of her royal career did she not state that she was assessing what charities etc she wished to support?
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During an interview, at the time of her engagement, some journalist asked her about the charities she would support as the Crown Princess. Paraphrasing her answer she replied, that she would "...approach and analyze [each charity] stragetically..."

Her response was vague at the time, but I believe she wanted to be careful about the charities she was about to support (which is smart if you ask me.)

It's not a big deal, but to many it is. Why I have no idea.
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