Official Visit to New York, 17-21 September, 2007

[Lilla]

Originally Posted by highpriestess

We're a very very very small group of people in the big scheme of things. If DRF counts us as the only PR audience, they're in serious trouble.

I read the post from Aurora810 as a humorus comment to the discussion. Not a comment to the NY trip. The post was fun to read.

Highpriestess, for you the post seems to bring yet another opportunity to start the discussion all over again. I don’t think anything is gained by that. You have got your point of view, other has got theirs and I’v got mine.

I think it has been fun to participate in the debate, but to continue a debate that has begone to circle around itselfe - is pointless.

[MissSaga]

Originally Posted by Lilla

I think it has been fun to participate in the debate, but to continue a debate that has begone to circle around itselfe - is pointless.

Espeically considering this visit ended, like, 5 days ago.

[Jane1]

Sorry to delve back into this discussion but it seems to me that Fred and Mary did exactly what they were asked to do; they showed up to everything and looked attractive and interested. Mary wore outfits that stood out and they looked thrilled to be there. I don't think F and M can be held accountable for the economic success of the trip, if and when it can be measured.
Maybe the visit went below the radar of much of the NY press; this is not F or M's 'fault'. They fulfilled theur roles to a T.

[Empress]

Well - highpriestess - I am a PR professional, I have years of experience, and a solid background in education. I would not try to understand what the PR objectives were, since I was not part of the planning process, so we can't know if it has been a success.

However, having the experience that I have, I will say this, PR can not be measured overnight generally speaking. Somethings are grass roots PR with a slow burn, and some things get immediate attention, like Britney Spears flashing her panties, or lack thereof.

So, as a PR Professional, I would not judge this a success or non starter just yet.

[ZandraRae]

Just now having the opportunity to view all the posts and pictures of Fred and Mary's visit, I must say I thought the couple did an amazing job. Both dressed with style and elegance. Great pictures everyone, thanks for posting!

[ysbel]

Originally Posted by Empress

Well - highpriestess - I am a PR professional, I have years of experience, and a solid background in education. I would not try to understand what the PR objectives were, since I was not part of the planning process, so we can't know if it has been a success.

However, having the experience that I have, I will say this, PR can not be measured overnight generally speaking. Somethings are grass roots PR with a slow burn, and some things get immediate attention, like Britney Spears flashing her panties, or lack thereof.

So, as a PR Professional, I would not judge this a success or non starter just yet.

Thanks Empress for explaining. I was wondering about this because I know the Scandanavian royals have long made such trips and although they haven't gotten so much national attention, they have gotten attention in the local press. The royals continue to make these trips and this indicates to me that they see some sort of success in them. I know you can't know for sure the PR objectives of Fred's and Mary's trip but could you explain to us some more about some different types of PR objectives that they could have had and how you would have measured the success based on the objective.

Since most of the royal events that we discuss here on the forums have some sort of PR element, I think your experience can add a lot to our understanding of the thinking and planning behind these types of events beyond discussing the merits or lack thereof of an dress a Crown Princess wears which I imagine is only one part (although maybe important part) of the entire PR package.

[MargreteI]

The Royals does not plan trips like this just because they them self think it would be a nice thing to do. Organizations of various kind does.

This was a part of the programme "Creative Nation" which is carried out by The Confederation of Danish Industries (DI). They actually ask the Royals if they would be interested in the project. If so, then the court start to plan things together with the organization.

That is what Royal do. Pick projects that is proposed to them.

Whether it will be succesfull or not depends on the legwork and preparation of the specific organization in question and not on the Royals. They participate to gain some attention to the project. It is up to the organization to use it.

Success or failure simply does not depend on the Royal couple, so it makes no sense to discuss it.

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[biboquinhas]

I'am really a big fan of Princess Mary, really a lot, but I feel that in this trip she has exaggerate a bit regarding her choice of fashion. She was the best Danish fashion amabassador that's for sure, but I think sometimes she can leed all the attentions to her and not to the event or Project hitself if she could be a little more unperceivably and wear not so "show off" clothes, maybe the attentions and the messages will be direct to the event and not to her. And please people I really like Mary and I really enjoy all the clothes and the images I have seen during this trip, but I feel like my heart needed to say this!

[Gaia]

Originally Posted by biboquinhas

I'am really a big fan of Princess Mary, really a lot, but I feel that in this trip she has exaggerate a bit regarding her choice of fashion. She was the best Danish fashion amabassador that's for sure, but I think sometimes she can leed all the attentions to her and not to the event or Project hitself if she could be a little more unperceivably and wear not so "show off" clothes, maybe the attentions and the messages will be direct to the event and not to her. And please people I really like Mary and I really enjoy all the clothes and the images I have seen during this trip, but I feel like my heart needed to say this!

If she had gone to a wedding and had some eye popping dress that competed with the bride I might say she dressed to focus on herself, or if her bosom was heaving out of the top of a bodice...but since she has not committed any of those faux pas and instead she has to promote Danish fashion, which seems to be very distinctive (for lack of a better description), I don't agree that she dresses to deliberately bring attention to herself. Mary was conservative in her dress prior to Fred and I don't think that she would wear much of the things we see her in today if she still lived in Australia.

[wiwaxia]

Originally Posted by MargreteI

The Royals does not plan trips like this just because they them self think it would be a nice thing to do. Organizations of various kind does.

This was a part of the programme "Creative Nation" which is carried out by The Confederation of Danish Industries (DI). They actually ask the Royals if they would be interested in the project. If so, then the court start to plan things together with the organization.

That is what Royal do. Pick projects that is proposed to them.

Whether it will be succesfull or not depends on the legwork and preparation of the specific organization in question and not on the Royals. They participate to gain some attention to the project. It is up to the organization to use it.

Success or failure simply does not depend on the Royal couple, so it makes no sense to discuss it.

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I don't really see why not, the validity of their presence is of paramount relevance to the discussion.

[ricarda]

Originally Posted by biboquinhas

I'am really a big fan of Princess Mary, really a lot, but I feel that in this trip she has exaggerate a bit regarding her choice of fashion. She was the best Danish fashion amabassador that's for sure, but I think sometimes she can leed all the attentions to her and not to the event or Project hitself if she could be a little more unperceivably and wear not so "show off" clothes, maybe the attentions and the messages will be direct to the event and not to her. And please people I really like Mary and I really enjoy all the clothes and the images I have seen during this trip, but I feel like my heart needed to say this!

I personally feel that except maybe for that black-white-brown-grey dress she wore on the second day which was indeed eye-catching she did not really wear "show off" clothes. A lot of black - too much black in my eyes - and the gala outfit was nice but not what I would call sensational or showing off. None of the outfits really knocked me over but the overall impression was very good. All in all I thought her outfits represented very well what Danish design stands for. Understated elegance, functionalism and a few unusual ideas (which some like and some don't).

[eireann]

I think having Fred and Mary are taking part in this project is a great idea. After all, CEOs, managers, ministers and politicians come and go, but at least Fred and Mary should be around for many years to come (touch wood). My understanding of the long term goal of this project is that Danish companies already established in the US will give assistance to those companies in Denmark wanting to break into the US market. I think Mary and Fred did their job well, but I agree the success or failure of this project is not dependent on them.

[Currier]

Since we're still on this subject, I'd like to say, WOW, CPFrederik's saying he and his wife are lovers is a pretty powerful and unusual statement to make in public. Nice to hear although we all knew it. He also deserves an A Plus for his part: full work schedule, affability and great appearance.

[Lilla]

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[bbb]

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newcom.com has photos of them getting in the car to leave NY
if the link doesn't work- sign in and search danish royals leave new york there's a precious picture of isabella

[biboquinhas]

Wonderful! It doesn't seam to be Isabella because she has more ligth hair this time, strange! Mary is lokking very casual for the trip, what is good for her because is a long trip back home and many hours on the plane! It's a shame we cannot see bigger photos ;-(((((((

[Lilla]

Originally Posted by bbb

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if the link doesn't work- sign in and search danish royals leave new york there's a precious picture of isabella

Thanks for the link. Isabella looks cute