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Old 08-09-2019, 01:07 PM
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Thanks, Blog Real and you are welcome, Ista.

Some of you may think: What an ugly made thatched roof! That's because it's made from plant growing in the sea. Sea-reed, rather than straw.
That was out of simple necessity. Sea reed was and is readily available and free, while there was a limit to how many fields there were on an island this size.
So it may look unkempt, but it works.

I also see that the family helped in making salt.
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Old 08-09-2019, 02:21 PM
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Thanks Muhler for the info.
What a lovey day out for the family.

Article and more pictures.
https://www.tv2nord.dk/artikel/kronp..._x58yfWOKs24Sw
It looks like the Holch-Povlsen family is with them.

Pictures from the tower on the island

https://m.facebook.com/thorvald.hans...ebook.min.html

Video
https://www.instagram.com/p/B08F8doB..._web_copy_link

Frederik and Mary
https://www.instagram.com/p/B0893hUA..._web_copy_link
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Old 08-09-2019, 02:34 PM
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Thanks, Polyesco.

According to the article M&F went ashore already Thursday, where they dined somewhere on the island and frolicked a bit on a beach.
Friday was the big sightseeing tour.
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Old 08-09-2019, 03:43 PM
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Lovely photos of a natural and humble little family
I like it’s mommys own pictures!

Have been a pleasure to follow - and learn - from their visits around to Denmarks beautiful little gems and places.

School start on Monday and the Crown Prince family’s vacation seems to have been relaxing and good.
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Old 08-09-2019, 04:41 PM
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Thanks for the details, Muhler! I appreciate it so much when you take the time to post history or background details
I add my thanks and appreciate the picture of the local defence force: hope that information is not classified as Prince Joachim would have palpitations!This island strikes me as a wonderful place to write one of your famous dark Scandinavian thrillers...can you recommend a writer?
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Old 08-09-2019, 05:22 PM
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I add my thanks and appreciate the picture of the local defence force: hope that information is not classified as Prince Joachim would have palpitations!This island strikes me as a wonderful place to write one of your famous dark Scandinavian thrillers...can you recommend a writer?
It sure is, it sure is! A dark, windy and rainy autumn night in a light house on Lęsų. That should provide the proper atmosphere.
http://bondoandersen.dk/pict/2015/IMG_9551.jpg
http://bondoandersen.dk/pict/2015/IMG_9532.jpg
http://bondoandersen.dk/pict/2015/IMG_9527.jpg
And when you hear the cries of the gulls, remember that they are the reincarnated souls of drowned sailors, lamenting their fate.

And I can recommend an author, who is now dead, and not that well-known anymore. Torben Nielsen. Ed McBain "borrowed" one of his murders in a novel of his.
Torben Nielsen had some of his novels translated to English.
https://www.thriftbooks.com/a/torben-nielsen/776049/
Being a former policeman, he wrote some brilliant police novels in the 1970's. As well as some hilarious "autobiographies" from his childhood in a village around 1930.
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Old 08-09-2019, 05:33 PM
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Thanks, Blog Real and you are welcome, Ista.

Some of you may think: What an ugly made thatched roof! That's because it's made from plant growing in the sea. Sea-reed, rather than straw.
That was out of simple necessity. Sea reed was and is readily available and free, while there was a limit to how many fields there were on an island this size.
So it may look unkempt, but it works.

I also see that the family helped in making salt.

Do you know that I quite like the thatched roof made from sea-reed when I saw the pictures. So beautiful, and I think of the people who used what was available from nature while nurturing their limited resources in the fields, were brilliant survivors.
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Old 08-09-2019, 05:44 PM
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Well, in these times, where the climate is very much on the agenda, you can hardly be much more environmentally friendly than this! Sea reed being even more environmentally friendly than straw I imagine.
And it works! Keeping the warmth in winters much better than any slab or tile roof, except for the most modern. While still allowing the house to breathe.
And rain just trickles off.

And nowadays with modern fire-retardant materials underneath it's pretty safe as well.
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Old 08-09-2019, 07:54 PM
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Dear Muhler you have such a wonderful Turn of phrase yourself, that I am sure you would be able to write a pretty good novel about Vikings and stormy seas yourself.
And your lengthy posts are always informative. Through your story telling I have probably learnt more about Danish History than I've learnt about my own country. Well nearly.

The children are experiencing a well rounded holiday again this year. Seeing new places and meeting new people and finding things to do as well as some fun time at the beach.
Fred looks sooo relaxed.

I am very sure the locals are proud of the fact that their future King is taking the time to acquaint his children with rural Denmark and all the fascinating history that is on offer from this proud nation, gained over many centuries.
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Old 08-09-2019, 09:57 PM
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It sure is, it sure is! A dark, windy and rainy autumn night in a light house on Lęsų. That should provide the proper atmosphere.
http://bondoandersen.dk/pict/2015/IMG_9551.jpg
http://bondoandersen.dk/pict/2015/IMG_9532.jpg
http://bondoandersen.dk/pict/2015/IMG_9527.jpg
And when you hear the cries of the gulls, remember that they are the reincarnated souls of drowned sailors, lamenting their fate.

And I can recommend an author, who is now dead, and not that well-known anymore. Torben Nielsen. Ed McBain "borrowed" one of his murders in a novel of his.
Torben Nielsen had some of his novels translated to English.
https://www.thriftbooks.com/a/torben-nielsen/776049/
Being a former policeman, he wrote some brilliant police novels in the 1970's. As well as some hilarious "autobiographies" from his childhood in a village around 1930.
mange tak, also for the pictures! I can imagine the stories that could be told about this place...!
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Old 08-10-2019, 01:52 AM
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Thanks, Gerry & Tarlita.

Judging from the article Polyesco kindly posted the islanders were absolutely delighted!
And again based on the article, the islanders agreed to repay the visit by the CP-family by leaving them alone, with perhaps only a "hi" should they meet them.

I am glad, and to be honest, a bit proud that this behavior is still very common in by far most of DK, certainly outside the major cities. If you meet members of the DRF, you leave them alone, you don't thrust a phone up their noses to get a picture. If you do take a picture it's from a discreet distance.

As for the press, they have to respect their privacy by law. At Lęsų the family was met and welcomed by the mayor of the island, so you can with some justification claim it was news reporting, showing the footage of them.
The same thing applies to the music festival. The CP-family being there was covered with a few, pretty discreet photos, as a part of reporting the mood and who was at the festival - and otherwise left alone.
Even though the press must have been able to get their hands on tons of photos if they wanted to, they didn't. The privacy laws are strict and their readers don't like it.
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Old 08-12-2019, 09:46 AM
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Christian's voice is cracking.

It wasn't clear to me, what the long sea-reed was for.

Josephine ain't bad at jumping rope. But of course she has less mass to propel up in the air, and shorter arms and legs - and feet - to control. Teenage boys reminds me of Alsatian puppies, way too big paws and ears.

Mary was heard saying something about exercise.

The photo of a ship Frederik is posing in front of, is a Danish man'o-war, from the Napoleonic wars that went down near Lęsų and that is now being excavated.
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Old 08-12-2019, 04:22 PM
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Nice to see the CP family on the visit today. It seems like it was an entertaining trip for the children.
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Old 08-14-2019, 10:54 AM
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Nice videos.

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A few more pics from their trip to the museum
https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...47&oe=5DD10660
Where Isabella seems to be father's girl, Christian seems to be mother's boy

Some more pictures from the Crown Prince family's visit at island Lęsų:
http://content.invisioncic.com/r3885...abd7f444d4.png
http://content.invisioncic.com/r3885...cde2fa0e93.png
http://content.invisioncic.com/r3885...bb7cd355a9.png
http://content.invisioncic.com/r3885...ee7b8f1975.png
http://content.invisioncic.com/r3885...9a0d9ff486.png

The family's summer vacation is over.
The children started school this Monday. Christian now in 8th grade, Isabella now in 6th grade and the twins now in 2nd grade.
Mary has her first official event tomorrow afternoon and Frederik has his first official event a few days after. So far (it may just be the calendar that hasn't been updated, though) it seems to be a quiet startup with the official events. I think we can be sure that Frederik and Mary have a lot of paperwork and preparation for the upcoming US state visit.
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Old 08-14-2019, 02:50 PM
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Thanks, Roskilde.

I think we should have a closer look at the local costume as worn by the woman seen talking to Mary. (You can tell Mary is Frederik's wife, BTW! )

It is considered the most beautiful of the local costumes in DK, it's certainly among the most expensive.
https://www.visitlaesoe.dk/sites/def...?itok=HWwqt5y7
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http://content.invisioncic.com/r3885...ee7b8f1975.png

It is said it was QMI (back in the 1400's) who gave the women on the island permission to wear this special costume after they helped her after her ship went aground on the island.
The fashion has of course changed over the centuries, and now the costume looks like it was in the 1800's.
But you can see remnants of the 1500's fashion at the shoulders and upper arms.

Black, especially deep black was an expensive dye.
Silver brooches has since ancient times been worn as a status symbol of the wealth of your family, and it is indeed silver, this woman is wearing.
This costume predates the fashion-craze that began in the 1600's with buttons and as many buttons as possible! Preferably from silver.
This costume is closed with silver-buckles/clasps.

The laples are made from silk with an embroidered flower-pattern, and kept in place by silver-chains. Around her neck she wears a colored silk-scarf, blue in this case.
The woman wears a blue underskirt, normally it would be white actually, made from fine wool and with an embroidered bort with a flower pattern. On top of that she wears an apron made from silk, also with a bort with embroidered flowers. The apron is tied on the back, with colored (what-do-you-call-it) strings.
Her top - vest/blouse is also made from silk.
On her feet she would wear shoes. Not wooden-shoes, but real genuine shoes made from leather and with wooden soles! Initially there would have been no such thing as a left and right shoe, that only came about during the 1700's. But that has of course changed nowadays.
The cuffs are made from lace.

The white head-scarf is deceptively complicated! It's huge and held in place by pins, and you need help to put it on.

Beforehand the women, in addition, to all this also wore a narrow, almost medieval belt, made from silver. But they have nearly all gone by now.

The reason why the costume is so elaborate and expensive is that DK is an ancient merchant nation, with countless boat going out from not least the islands. So the menfolks were able to bring back expensive fabrics from far away.

Now, a costume like this not only displayed the wealth of the family of the woman who wore it, it also told people about where she came from. Sometimes down to the individual parish. It would tell you whether she was married, unmarried, a widow, head of the household and whether her family owned their own farm. And the women would wear a full costume at festive occasions of course, but also to church on Sundays, to market in the nearby market-towns or on the relatively rare occasions a woman (from an island) went visiting to other parts of the country.
For young unmarried women (in their mid-teens to early twenties) it was far from uncommon to travel (walk!) pretty far around. Not least in up and down Jutland and they also wore such costumes. And people looking at them could tell where they were from - and girls from one part of DK were perhaps known to be very virtuous and as such wife material. From another part of the country the girls were perhaps known to be dependable and trustworthy workers. From a third part of the country the women were perhaps known to be very skillful in a particular trade. - So in a sense wearing their local costume they were also living billboards so to speak.

A married wife would almost invariably wear a headscarf as a sign of her status. Unmarried girls were more at liberty to wear their hair more visibly. With a smaller headscarf or no scarf.
A widow would typically wear a black headscarf as a sign of her status in life.
But the highest ranking of all women, who wore such costumes, would be the mistress of the household.
From around the Viking Age, the mistress of the household would wear the keys to the house, the chest with the fine linen and the cupboard with the fine china, that was only used after church on Sundays and at special occasions and when the local priest paid a visit. - And last but no least, she would wear the keys to the money-chest. In contrast to men, who were prone to get drunk, it was encouraged and considered prudent to let the mistress control the access to the family-money. Women, while having lots of other flaws according to the church, were after all by nature considered to be more responsible and sensible in regards to family-matters and preserving the family-cash...
Of course on islands like Lęsų, it made much more sense to let the mistress have access to the money, with the husband often away to sea.
And in other parts of the country, it was also prudent to let the mistress keep the keys, because the husband might often be away driving cattle south or away to market.
But the mistress of the household had undisputed control over the household! That included children, maids, relatives and tenants - all came under her authority! As well as the inside of the house, smaller domestic animals and poultry and the kitchen garden.
It was frowned upon if the husband was meddling in domestic matters, or worse, had to meddle in domestic matters.
So should the mistress die or fall seriously ill (or in some case when becoming a widow) the keys would not go to the husband, but to the next in line in the domestic pecking order.

I forgot to mention: Apart from the money chest, the mistress also had the keys to the cupboard with the liqueur.

Additional: According to Old Danish Law, if a woman had held the keys to a household for three years and was generally acknowledged to be the mistress (that came with the job) she would have the same legal rights as if she was married to the owner of the house. (Unless of course they were related by blood.) Even if both of them were still married to someone else.
The laws before the mid 1600's were often surprisingly pragmatic. But the less tolerant Lutheran church managed to put and end to that, when a common law for all of DK was introduced in the mid 1600's. The Danish Law.
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Old 08-14-2019, 04:57 PM
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Where Isabella seems to be father's girl, Christian seems to be mother's boy

Some more pictures from the Crown Prince family's visit at island Lęsų:
http://content.invisioncic.com/r3885...abd7f444d4.png
http://content.invisioncic.com/r3885...cde2fa0e93.png
http://content.invisioncic.com/r3885...bb7cd355a9.png
http://content.invisioncic.com/r3885...ee7b8f1975.png
http://content.invisioncic.com/r3885...9a0d9ff486.png

The family's summer vacation is over.
The children started school this Monday. Christian now in 8th grade, Isabella now in 6th grade and the twins now in 2nd grade.
Mary has her first official event tomorrow afternoon and Frederik has his first official event a few days after. So far (it may just be the calendar that hasn't been updated, though) it seems to be a quiet startup with the official events. I think we can be sure that Frederik and Mary have a lot of paperwork and preparation for the upcoming US state visit.
It seemed the children were having a wail of a time during the trip! Judging from the photos it seems they've had a fun holiday.
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Old 08-14-2019, 05:17 PM
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They sure did. It's nice that it's very doable for the Danish RF to be on a trip with cameras but can still enjoy every moments.

Photos are so fascinating.
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Old 08-14-2019, 06:24 PM
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thank you Muhler for the bit of history lesson, always adds something extra to the forum

a few more photos from their vacation

With their dog Grace, safely on board too
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/cf/5d...9c5f24a28b.jpg
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such a happy time

Mary taking photos (of a handsome hubby )
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