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12-17-2010, 05:41 AM
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And i'm just asking, why does there have to be a specific reason as to why the photoshoot was taken?
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And I ask: would have been any problem if the photoshoot was taken for a specific reason?
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12-17-2010, 05:54 AM
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The pictures are nice but for me it is more something for celeberty's and not royalty.
I also don't feel any warmth. the family picture is just 4 people standing very far away from each other. The picture of Mary with Isabella could be very nice if she had looked to her daughter instead of the camera.
I prefer family pictures as they are publisher in Belgium, Holland and Norway. Last Year the Belgian crown price couple also did a photo shoot for a book but these picture are so diffrent from these ones. ( see: http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...ml#post1140976)
It is also remarkable that we see this fashion shoots for magazines so often with Mary. Other crownprincesses did it also but then once and not so often.
If you search on the internet, the results are numerous:
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12-17-2010, 06:33 AM
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If you search on the internet, the results are numerous:
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Thank you, Stephanievl
Really nice pics!
The only one that didn't speak to me is the one with the horse. (Perhaps it would have been better in color).
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12-17-2010, 06:42 AM
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Most of these photos are from the one photoshoot for Vogue.
Mary looks great in all these shots, she is very beautiful.
Muhler, I like the one with the horse, you can certainly understand why Mary had the photo with the horse, seeing as how much she loves them.
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12-17-2010, 06:45 AM
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Most of these photos are from the one photoshoot for Vogue.
Mary looks great in all these shots, she is very beautiful.
Muhler, I like the one with the horse, you can certainly understand why Mary had the photo with the horse, seeing as how much she loves them.
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Yes. 1 photo shoot for Vogue Australia, which was 6 years ago. She also did one for a Danish magazine as the patron of Danish Fashion.
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12-17-2010, 07:11 AM
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I liked the photos they were different I also like the sweet ones as well. It is nice to see them in a different fun way not so serious.
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12-17-2010, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Zonk
 Very true.
Tons of these pictures are in the books I mentioned...Royalty in Vogue and The Royal Potraits by Cecil Beaton.
I am pretty sure the author took the photos and someone wrote an accompanying story. Of what, I don't know. Royalty was even more of mystery then.
So has anyone read the actual article? I have seen snippets of what it contains but no one to say they have read it and learned something new.
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Yep, proud owner since yesterday, this is why I posted some excerpts, I hope I can translate it over the weekend
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12-17-2010, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by marfre
Most of these photos are from the one photoshoot for Vogue.
Mary looks great in all these shots, she is very beautiful.
Muhler, I like the one with the horse, you can certainly understand why Mary had the photo with the horse, seeing as how much she loves them.
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Indeed. There is one picture I've seen of Mary standing in front of a horse, caressing it's muzzle. It's in profile and you can tell, she's completely forgotten the photographers. It's just her and the horse. It's almost an intimate picture.
Some of the very best pics of Mary (and for that matter most of the DRF) is where she's not paying attention to the photographers.
Another favourite of mine, is where she was wearing a broadbrimmed sunhat sitting at some event. At some point she was lifting up her head, while clearly thinking about something pleasant, judging from her quiet smile. - That was a pic that said: Bang, on the retina!
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12-17-2010, 07:36 AM
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The pictures are nice but for me it is more something for celeberty's and not royalty.
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I agree with what you said about the lack of warmth in the pictures. This is often the case with Vogue shots, though. In the links you posted Mary looks great, but she's a princess not a model. I mean, for a princess who has been criticized that she's too much into designer fashion etc, it's all a bit too much. Just my opinion.
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12-17-2010, 07:39 AM
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Because once the individual royal houses have received their grants from the state (tax payers) I don't see how we, the taxpayers, can claim that we are entitled to know how, when and where and for what purposes they spend their money. As long as the royals fulfil their part of the bargain - for Queen Margrethe that is for example to use most of her grant to maintain the castles she has a right of occupation to - this is it! If one royal house decide to use some of their funds for travelling, another on using a day or two on a photo shoot (probably no money involved), a third on something quite different - this is just not our business and we should keep our noses out of their private money matters.
Claiming that a day of a photo shoot must upset the tax payers is downright silly IMO. People really need to get this tax payer thing into perspective. How the tax payer even got into this discussion about a photo shoot still beats me
I have noticed that is often people who do not live in monarchies who are extremely focused on 'the hard-suffering tax payers' in monarchies. I don't for one moment believe that a presidency would be cheaper for the tax payers. It's OK to have the origin of the money of individual royal houses in mind, but some really need to get some perspective into it. It's not like the royals are the tax payers' financial hostages.
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I wouldn't say that one hasn't the right to question once the money is handed over from public funds, it's no different from asking where the money is going as regards schools/hospitals etc, not that I'm interested in what new shoes the Queen has just purchased, but how the royals dispose of such a vast amount of money is in the public interest, isn't that democracy!
If a photo shoot floats the CPCouples boat, then fine by me, it just makes them look Hollywood, and not in the least bit regal, but then that is my point of view.
I don't know the going rate economically between a Queen/King or a president, but I know that the latter has to prove themselves worthy, and the other inherits regardless of ability...as for 'financial hostages' well the DRF are exactly that, without the tax, and subsequently the annual apanage, they wouldn't be anywhere, well at least not in Amalineborg, or the handful of other residences, and it seems there are people who have different perspectives than yours...it isn't illegal...
Thanks for your answer!
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12-17-2010, 07:42 AM
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But they give out a financial report each year. And unlike the money that goes to hospitals, there is no purpose how to spend it connected to the apannage
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12-17-2010, 07:59 AM
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the pictures are fine , for movie stars , I expected a bit more from this crown Prince and Princess Couple , I can, so see the monaco royal doing this , but it just doesnt sit right for the demark lot , but that is just my thoughts.
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12-17-2010, 08:01 AM
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I don't know the going rate economically between a Queen/King or a president, but I know that the latter has to prove themselves worthy, and the other inherits regardless of ability...
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Eeh, a monarch also has to prove his/her worth. Or the monarchy will eventually be abolished.
Also, in many republics the president (as formal head of state, not leader of the government) is not elected in a general election, but by the parliaments.
In these case the presidents are not chosen so much based on merit but perhaps more on who the politicians can agree on chosing. - And a president chosen as a compromise may not be the most worthy.
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12-17-2010, 08:24 AM
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I wouldn't say that one hasn't the right to question once the money is handed over from public funds, it's no different from asking where the money is going as regards schools/hospitals etc, not that I'm interested in what new shoes the Queen has just purchased, but how the royals dispose of such a vast amount of money is the public interest, isn't that democracy!
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Sternchen has already answered that - they publish a detailed financial report each year.
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If a photo shoot floats the CPCouples boat, then fine by me, it just makes them look Hollywood, and not in the least bit regal, but then that is my point of view.
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And your point of view is fine by me; we can definitely agree to disagree
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12-17-2010, 08:31 AM
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Eeh, a monarch also has to prove his/her worth. Or the monarchy will eventually be abolished.
Also, in many republics the president (as formal head of state, not leader of the government) is not elected in a general election, but by the parliaments.
In these case the presidents are not chosen so much based on merit but perhaps more on who the politicians can agree on chosing. - And a president chosen as a compromise may not be the most worthy.  [/QUOTE
Also, in many republics the president (as formal head of state, not leader of the government) is not elected in a general election, but by the parliaments.
In these case the presidents are not chosen so much based on merit but perhaps more on who the politicians can agree on chosing. - And a president chosen as a compromise may not be the most worthy. 
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There's no formal vote for a monarch, it is a 'birthright' they do not have to prove any form for ability to be representatives of their house, it is an automatic procedure for life, presidents have to shop for votes, and (hopefully) the best man wins! My point is that the two posts are at opposite ends of the spectrum!
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Sternchen has already answered that - they publish a detailed financial report each year.
And your point of view is fine by me; we can definitely agree to disagree 
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It is only this year that everything has been accounted for. Previously there was no mention of anything over the allotted apanage.
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12-17-2010, 08:54 AM
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There's no formal vote for a monarch, it is a 'birthright' they do not have to prove any form for ability to be representatives of their house, it is an automatic procedure for life, presidents have to shop for votes, and (hopefully) the best man wins! My point is that the two posts are at opposite ends of the spectrum!
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A monarch only sit for as long as the population, represented by the parliament, wants it.
A president has to gather enough credit to be elected, true, but a monach has to prove himself/herself for the rest of his/her reign.
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12-17-2010, 10:31 AM
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I don't know what the crownprince couple wanted to convey with this photo spread but I doubt it was aimed at the Danish people. It is a photo that shows style over substance. More perfect clothes and more perfect make-up. Every european crownprincely couple are facing increasing republican pressure for the abolishment of the royal houses. Are photo spreads like these helping the royals to show their relevance?
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12-17-2010, 11:16 AM
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Wow! i went to sleep and when I wake up and check the forum it is 5 more pages to read! thiss photo created a big controversy but most of all we got all so hook up to spend the time talking about it! i think they got what they wanted!
anyone got the magazine here in the US?
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12-17-2010, 12:02 PM
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Sorry but why does it have anything to do with creating German interest in the DRF?
Why can it not just be a simple photoshoot which the Vogue German editor has asked for?
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Danish tourism is more and more aiming at the upper level of Germany's travellers. Thos who normally go to Sylt. So it's certainly good PR for Denmark.
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12-17-2010, 12:34 PM
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The pictures are nice but for me it is more something for celeberty's and not royalty.
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Thanks for posting those! It's wonderful to see these again.
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