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Old 01-04-2011, 03:59 PM
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I did not know she was on the leave. Thank you for explaining.
Oh yes.

However, Mary is not in the same situation as ordinary people. In the sense that her job is flexible enough for her to decide when and to what extent she wish to return to official duties.
The court announced that by mid December, I believe (the Guards Hussars event), she would no longer have official duties. That's when the official maternity leave started.
From then on it was certain that Mary would not attend the New Year Courts.

My guess is that we won't see much of Mary this side of Easter. And that she by then will have gradually ended her maternity leave.
Maternity leave after all is a right, not a must, even for ordinary people.

The same thing applies to paternity leave, which you can have before your child turns nine. Somehow I don't think Mary or for that matter Frederik will go on paternity leave.
They may at some point decide to cut down on the amount of engagements for a period. Or do like the Norwegian CP-couple, go on, what is basically six months paternity leave.

For ordinary Danes the rules are that the mother (she's after all the pregnant one) has the right to go on leave 4 weeks prior to giving birth. (Mary is scheduled to give birth in mid January, so that fits the timetable).
The father has a right to 2 weeks of leave within 14 weeks after the birth has taken place.
The mother has the right to 14 weeks of leave after giving birth.
This leave can be extended with additional 32 weeks, to be shared by the parents as they wish.
(There are a number of additional rules, regarding extension of the leave and so on).

Now, you don't have to use all the weeks right after giving birth. You can save a number of weeks for later. Before the child turns nine, one of the parents can use the remaining weeks on paternity leave. If you have more than one child, you have more weeks you can save to be used later on.
Some use that opportunity, for example when the child start at school, in case there are problems or if you simply need a breather.
During all these weeks you get paid the amount you would get if you were unemployed.

I know this is pretty complicated stuff and I've tried to keep it as simple as possible.
So to sum up: Most women (I know of) go on leave for 6 to 9 months and most fathers go on leave for 2 to 4 weeks.
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Old 01-04-2011, 04:11 PM
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Oh yes.

However, Mary is not in the same situation as ordinary people. In the sense that her job is flexible enough for her to decide when and to what extent she wish to return to official duties.
The court announced that by mid December, I believe (the Guards Hussars event), she would no longer have official duties. That's when the official maternity leave started.
From then on it was certain that Mary would not attend the New Year Courts.

My guess is that we won't see much of Mary this side of Easter. And that she by then will have gradually ended her maternity leave.
Maternity leave after all is a right, not a must, even for ordinary people.

The same thing applies to paternity leave, which you can have before your child turns nine. Somehow I don't think Mary or for that matter Frederik will go on paternity leave.
They may at some point decide to cut down on the amount of engagements for a period. Or do like the Norwegian CP-couple, go on, what is basically six months paternity leave.

For ordinary Danes the rules are that the mother (she's after all the pregnant one) has the right to go on leave 4 weeks prior to giving birth. (Mary is scheduled to give birth in mid January, so that fits the timetable).
The father has a right to 2 weeks of leave within 14 weeks after the birth has taken place.
The mother has the right to 14 weeks of leave after giving birth.
This leave can be extended with additional 32 weeks, to be shared by the parents as they wish.
(There are a number of additional rules, regarding extension of the leave and so on).

Now, you don't have to use all the weeks right after giving birth. You can save a number of weeks for later. Before the child turns nine, one of the parents can use the remaining weeks on paternity leave. If you have more than one child, you have more weeks you can save to be used later on.
Some use that opportunity, for example when the child start at school, in case there are problems or if you simply need a breather.
During all these weeks you get paid the amount you would get if you were unemployed.

I know this is pretty complicated stuff and I've tried to keep it as simple as possible.
So to sum up: Most women (I know of) go on leave for 6 to 9 months and most fathers go on leave for 2 to 4 weeks.
That is very interesting, how it differs in different countries. Thank you for the explanation, makes it all easier to understand.
It is great women can take up to 9 months! Could Mary do the same? I would assume, with twins, and two little kids, she would need as much time as possible to adjust everybody and everything slowly. I wonder what Christian and Isabella are thinking of the new siblings comming
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Old 01-04-2011, 04:18 PM
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Oh yes.

However, Mary is not in the same situation as ordinary people. In the sense that her job is flexible enough for her to decide when and to what extent she wish to return to official duties.
The court announced that by mid December, I believe (the Guards Hussars event), she would no longer have official duties. That's when the official maternity leave started.
From then on it was certain that Mary would not attend the New Year Courts.

My guess is that we won't see much of Mary this side of Easter. And that she by then will have gradually ended her maternity leave.
Maternity leave after all is a right, not a must, even for ordinary people.

The same thing applies to paternity leave, which you can have before your child turns nine. Somehow I don't think Mary or for that matter Frederik will go on paternity leave.
They may at some point decide to cut down on the amount of engagements for a period. Or do like the Norwegian CP-couple, go on, what is basically six months paternity leave.

For ordinary Danes the rules are that the mother (she's after all the pregnant one) has the right to go on leave 4 weeks prior to giving birth. (Mary is scheduled to give birth in mid January, so that fits the timetable).
The father has a right to 2 weeks of leave within 14 weeks after the birth has taken place.
The mother has the right to 14 weeks of leave after giving birth.
This leave can be extended with additional 32 weeks, to be shared by the parents as they wish.
(There are a number of additional rules, regarding extension of the leave and so on).

Now, you don't have to use all the weeks right after giving birth. You can save a number of weeks for later. Before the child turns nine, one of the parents can use the remaining weeks on paternity leave. If you have more than one child, you have more weeks you can save to be used later on.
Some use that opportunity, for example when the child start at school, in case there are problems or if you simply need a breather.
During all these weeks you get paid the amount you would get if you were unemployed.

I know this is pretty complicated stuff and I've tried to keep it as simple as possible.
So to sum up: Most women (I know of) go on leave for 6 to 9 months and most fathers go on leave for 2 to 4 weeks.
Thank you very much for the explaination and making a complicated matter much easier for us to understand, Muhler.
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Old 01-04-2011, 04:18 PM
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This is true. But only Mary and her doctor know what she is capable of doing day to day. And I am sure it changes. Perhaps on Saturday she wasn't up to go to the New Year festivities or shop. And today (or the day of the event) could have been a better day. And she felt up to it.
Very true!! :)
And this comes from a woman who is due any day now too.
One day you have difficulty walking and can only spend your day on the couch and the next day you can walk and climb stairs etc.
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Old 01-04-2011, 04:22 PM
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I don't believe at all that the Princess went shopping (at least not an extended shopping) unless she was accompanied by her personal doctor and/or a nurse. It must be freezing in Denmark right now and with all the after Christmas shoppers the streets must be full of people (though I don't know it of course). It makes no sense that she walks the strees on a shopping tour. But I can easily believe that she went out for a walk as this is good for pregnant women. I think the story in the Australian press is a complete nonsense.
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Old 01-04-2011, 04:26 PM
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That is very interesting, how it differs in different countries. Thank you for the explanation, makes it all easier to understand.
It is great women can take up to 9 months! Could Mary do the same? I would assume, with twins, and two little kids, she would need as much time as possible to adjust everybody and everything slowly. I wonder what Christian and Isabella are thinking of the new siblings comming
If Mary were to use her right to the fullest, she could go on leave for 52 weeks, per pregnancy, and still be eligable for what is the equivalent of unemployment benefit.
There are however a number of conditions and I'm not 100 % sure of these rules.

I can use myself as a basis:
When we had our first child, Mrs. Muhler had on been on leave for two weeks, (he was eager to get out). I was on leave for two weeks after the birth, and Mrs Muhler for nine months.
When we had our second, we were on leave for four weeks and nine months respectively.
We opted not to use the remaining weeks before our children turned nine. Instead Mrs. Muhler cut her working hours down for two years in agreement with her employer, because I was the one with highest income.
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Old 01-04-2011, 04:49 PM
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If Mary were to use her right to the fullest, she could go on leave for 52 weeks, per pregnancy, and still be eligable for what is the equivalent of unemployment benefit.
There are however a number of conditions and I'm not 100 % sure of these rules.

I can use myself as a basis:
When we had our first child, Mrs. Muhler had on been on leave for two weeks, (he was eager to get out). I was on leave for two weeks after the birth, and Mrs Muhler for nine months.
When we had our second, we were on leave for four weeks and nine months respectively.
We opted not to use the remaining weeks before our children turned nine. Instead Mrs. Muhler cut her working hours down for two years in agreement with her employer, because I was the one with highest income.
So, if you don't use full leave at one child, can you use it with the second? Like a "roll - over"? (I know, weird comparison, but works, I hope ?)
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Old 01-04-2011, 05:02 PM
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But only if it is born not further than 9 years apart, is that correct, Muhler?
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Old 01-04-2011, 05:13 PM
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So, if you don't use full leave at one child, can you use it with the second? Like a "roll - over"? (I know, weird comparison, but works, I hope ?)
That's right. It's weeks per pregnancy that matters. - As long as the child/children are under the age of nine. - So if child A is eight years old and child B is twelve years old, you get no weeks for child B. They are lost.
If both children are under the age of nine, you can use up all the remaining weeks for both children.
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Let say that I have a source in royal court (or I know somenone, who know someone who works at palace), so I know she spend most of her time now in bed. Yesterday she was in hospital on normal pregnancy control and then went to the shop to buy something, but that doesnt mean that she is walking all the day as many people write there or I donť know what... It is really funny what one small appearence of Mary in hospital/shop can do with people imagination.


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Well, according to the video she was out shopping & onlookers said she was looking fine. Walking is a good many thing regardless with how many you are carrying & are not on bed rest, you are advised to walk and move but take it easy at the same time by many doctors.

I guess many think she is in bed as she is around her due date or passed it since many speculated she would be due in december a bit earlier than mentioned because of twins and her previous pregnancies, but at the end of it, we were told January and it could be mid or the end of January who knows.
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Let say that I have a source in royal court (or I know somenone, who know someone who works at palace), so I know she spend most of her time now in bed. Yesterday she was in hospital on normal pregnancy control and then went to the shop to buy something, but that doesnt mean that she is walking all the day as many people write there or I donť know what... It is really funny what one small appearence of Mary in hospital/shop can do with people imagination.
Lucky you you have an inside in to get the truth! so i imagi ne you know her insede closet too!
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Lucky you you have an inside in to get the truth! so i imagi ne you know her insede closet too!
I´m not trying to get any special info about her, I respect her privacy, but sometimes in few situations I know more than other...
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Old 01-04-2011, 06:11 PM
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Well, I hope your insider isn't the same as the insider from sjetajiem
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My insider is not a royal family insider but a Rigshospitalet-insider, who happens to know some of the medical procedures there.
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Old 01-04-2011, 07:47 PM
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Come on babies, GET OUT!!! Pleeeeease...

I simply can't wait to get an official announcement that they are on their way.
I mean Christian and Isabella arrived almost 2 weeks before their due date, and given the fact that an important amount of twins arrive quite early, sometimes even a month before they are due, those two are rather late!

Yet it's very important that they are very healthy so it's better that they are born around their due date. I just hope that this day is soon! I have totally freaked out with their birth; I check the forum almost every half an hour!
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Old 01-04-2011, 08:01 PM
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My insider is not a royal family insider but a Rigshospitalet-insider, who happens to know some of the medical procedures there.
Well...considering that you were so sure that twin girls would be born on December 31st...which did not happen...your insider can't be that much of an insider after all.

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given the fact that an important amount of twins arrive quite early, sometimes even a month before they are due, those two are rather late!
The twins are not late. The official announcement released on August 6th, 2010 stated that the Crown Princess was expected to give birth in January 2011. The statement did not say whether is was early, middle or late January. The media hype that she is due in mid-January is totally false...there was never any official confirmation of that.
The fact is, we don't know how far along she was when the pregnancy was announced. Journalists may have asked the royal court back in August 2010, but that doesn't mean that an accurate time was given. IMO, I doubt that the DRF would be very specific because it would mean that the media can basically count how many weeks she would be now and would able to accurately predict her stage of pregnancy...no one has been able to do that. So the media is just as much in the dark as the rest of us.
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Usually twins come early and Russo is impatient. However! Russo wishes that CP Mary and her babies have a very SAFE and HEALTHY delivery.
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the thing is: we are ALL excited and we cant wait for them to be born

(i never was this excited in a long time, hmm, maybe cause they are 2 coming??? thats why everybody is "crazy"[in a good way] when is the birth and keep login every hour and every day to see if there are some big news [i do the same eheh])
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I'm so excited for the twins to come out..I check every day...:)
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I basically check google news for "Crown Princess Mary," as much as humanly possible to see if there's any news on the twins. I'm impatient for their arrival too. I basically freaked out when I thought they were going to be born yesterday. I just hope everything goes well & Mary & the babies are healthy.
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