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Old 01-21-2013, 07:30 PM
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No, it isn't just you.

To claim something about someone, without being able to back that up with something substancial and then when challenged, ask your oponents to disprove what you claim - that's a shallow argument in any debate.

It's the way some gossip magazines use. Claim something and then ask the victims to use time and energy to prove them wrong.

You can do better, Annie_S.

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None of us know how intelligent Mary is. Suffice to say she is not stupid by any reasonable standard. So let's move on from this intelligence nonsense, shall we?
Well, I donīt think Iīm the most brilliant person on this world, but I know when I have to move on. I donīt have any interest on making this uglier, believe it or not.

I didnīt expect answers like these, I may be wrong, but I donīt think any of my arguments were so offensive. If they sounded like that, Iīm sorry, that wasnīt my intention, and I tried to explain them better, in fact.

Should have known better, though.
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Old 01-21-2013, 07:39 PM
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Especially Mary was never an adventurer when accepting new projects. She was and is always on the safe side. In that sense Mary is actually quite a boring royal. A hard worker for the royal cause maybe yes. But still a boring hard worker. Her presence at the forum will be a nice shot but no more.
First of all, Mary did not only accept new projects but initiated them.
Second, I don't think royals have to be adventurous. They should support projects or deal with problems that matter in their country/society. The Mary Foundation deals with Bullying, Domestic + Relationship Violence, Loneliness. You may find that boring, others don't.
Third, please tell me about the adventurous/un-safe projects of the other crown princesses. Then I can perhaps understand why "especially Mary .... was and is always on the safe side"
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Old 01-21-2013, 07:56 PM
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This entire thread has become ridiculous. I'm not saying that because I defend Mary to the last or anything like that-it's just really strange that an announcement that she's attending a conference - a meeting between people discussing ideas - has prompted claims about her intelligence, the supposed "fat cats" of the organization, and how no one should ever do anything because it brings too much trouble.

Wow - people can't agree on problems, on how to solve them, or whether even to try. I'm not surprised.
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Old 01-21-2013, 07:58 PM
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Well, I donīt think Iīm the most brilliant person on this world, but I know when I have to move on. I donīt have any interest on making this uglier, believe it or not.

I didnīt expect answers like these, I may be wrong, but I donīt think any of my arguments were so offensive. If they sounded like that, Iīm sorry, that wasnīt my intention, and I tried to explained them better, in fact.

Should have known better, though.
Yes, let's move on.

Otherwise we will use the next five pages defining "not particular intelligent" - and having arguments about that.
For your info, I will normally define "nor particular intelligent" as at best "of average intelligence" or slightly above. That may explain the reaction to your post.
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Old 01-21-2013, 09:54 PM
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Well, I donīt think Iīm the most brilliant person on this world, but I know when I have to move on. I donīt have any interest on making this uglier, believe it or not.

I didnīt expect answers like these, I may be wrong, but I donīt think any of my arguments were so offensive. If they sounded like that, Iīm sorry, that wasnīt my intention, and I tried to explain them better, in fact.

Should have known better, though.
Why did it even have to get ugly in the first place? Mary was invited, she accepted. She has done some wonderful work in her own country and well as abroad. I am all for anyone if they can in anyway help anyone whether they be a celebrity, Jo Schmo or a royal. Some just cannot help themselves. They just have to cut someone down and not see the good they have done and are still trying to do.
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Old 01-22-2013, 03:43 AM
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For all the work the Mary foundation has done and is doing, the involvement Mary has and the work she does, I personally don't see why this is an issue for her being there. She has worked for it, she has created a very positive name for the foundation. Some have stated that she only got there because of her position, thats 50% true but also her work for the foundation she did for them to recognise her.
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Old 01-22-2013, 06:43 AM
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Whithout charity or social engagements royals would be jobless. Without a job no justification for the existance of royal houses. As simply as that. It doesn't matter whether or not royal family members are intelligent or believe in what they are doing. All they need is to give the people the impression that you are doing some good stuff and make sure that newspapers pictures you with a smiling demour regal looking face.

Especially Mary was never an adventurer when accepting new projects. She was and is always on the safe side. In that sense Mary is actually quite a boring royal. A hard worker for the royal cause maybe yes. But still a boring hard worker. Her presence at the forum will be a nice shot but no more.
Hi Naggi - I can't agree that CP Mary is "quite a boring royal".

Being Tasmanian myself, though a different generation, I know where CP Mary has come from, and I am still amazed by what she now does, and how she has had to grow and develop over the last decade of her life. Nothing in Tasmania would have prepared her for her Danish life and the expectations required of her.

She has made an unbelievable transformation - and without putting a foot wrong.

Earlier today I was looking at some very old photos of her early days with CP Frederick, and could still see the not only Australian, but the Tasmanian, girl.

In photos from the last few years though, I can't detect that aspect of her - she now seems so European to me, and completely one with her formal role and public life.

I hope she goes from strength to strength on the International stage - young women need to see more positive examples of female accomplishment than the usual pop-singers, models or actresses.

(As for "always being on the safe side", she was quite open and frank in Mozambique recently regarding sexual matters according to reports.)

At least we agree she is hardworking - and this I think has been the key to her now being where she is, and will enable her to go further.

Cheers, Sun Lion.
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mary is elegant today
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Old 01-22-2013, 04:30 PM
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Thank you for the pictures Princess Luna and polyesco

So great to see pictures of Mary being there, she looks lovely and elegant.
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Old 01-22-2013, 06:12 PM
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Well I'm not the one who said she's not intelligent, however I haven't said she's a genius either because wherefrom should I know? I just think it's a fairly harsh judgement to make on someone you don't know personally, but maybe that's just me
IMO there's plenty of evidence that Mary is intelligent. She was able to attend and do well at university. In the documentary that was made prior to her marriage to Frederik she was described as talented and a hard worker by former employers. She was thoughtful and articulate speaking in English in that same documentary and certainly in the translations that have been provided here over the years of her marriage she seems pretty sharp. More than one person who's worked with her has commented on how knowledgeable she was on the subject they were working on, and how easily she was able to recall details regarding the work.

She's not a genius but she's smart enough that she won't be out of her depth with with the people at Davos, the majority of whom aren't geniuses either. :)
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Time to end the intelligence discussion and to get back to the topic of this thread! Thanks!
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And two more pictures from yahoo news

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Old 01-23-2013, 05:14 PM
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And a picture of Mary from today in Davos

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Old 01-23-2013, 05:29 PM
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There is a small report in the UK's "The Telegraph", from journalist Emma Rowley, about her sharing CP Mary's lunch table, and not realising who she was at first.

Cheers, Sun Lion.
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Old 01-23-2013, 05:44 PM
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Wow. Tons of comments. No disrespect meant. I think she is a hard worker. I just always got the impression her interests lie in feign and fashion. I know, though, she has spoken out against bullying.
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Thanks for the Telegraph info Sun Lion I looked it up, and it was just a small piece. Pity we don't have better pics from the forum at Davos, but then journos may be restricted from taking too many photos.
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Wow. Tons of comments. No disrespect meant. I think she is a hard worker. I just always got the impression her interests lie in feign and fashion. I know, though, she has spoken out against bullying.
That could apply to many You can enjoy fashion and fun but still be involved in more serious endeavors.
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another picture from yesterday, January 22
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Welcoming Remarks: H.R.H Crown Princess Mary of Denmark, Christine Lagarde | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
Special Address: Leading against the Odds: Audience | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
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