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Old 12-19-2005, 10:52 PM
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Thanks for all the beautiful pictures . CP Fred and CPs Mary looked great! A lovely couple indeed-happy, relaxed, smiling and laughing at each other. Understandably being new parents, they looked a little tired but very happy indeed. It was great of them to participate in this worthwhile cause .:)
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Old 12-20-2005, 03:42 AM
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Even if she was tired, its perfectly normal, the princess isnt wonder-woman! lol

ysbel i agree with you, they did look happy and relaxed and it shows how different people can interpret things differently from the same picture. I guess thats why we are all individuals! :)
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Old 12-20-2005, 09:59 AM
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It's so funny how people interpert different things from the same photo!

Does anyone know if there are any more apperances scheduled for Fred and Mary before the baby's christening?

Thanks! :)
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[quote=Margrethe II]Sesa & "PJ15"

I dont understand why indaviduals state "observations"

We can because it's a free world and we have freedom of speech. An observation is just that. an observation. Nothing is meant by it. It is not meant to attack or be malicious.

"PJ25" to say that "I dont want to start rumours or anything" is exactly what you are doing and you know it.

Rumors are started by people that are jealous or mean. they are meant to inflict hurt and pain. So it is unfair of you to criticize a person based on an observation that was obviously not meant to be a rumor. And to "tell" them that is what they meant, when, again, it was obviously stated otherwise, is not being very fair. I'm sure if that is what either I or PJ25 had in mind, it would have been "worded" much differently to make it sound like a "statement" rather than a personal observation.
So let's not attack each other for any reason. Okay? :)
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Old 12-20-2005, 03:49 PM
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Whether or not gossip is meant to hurt, that is not the point. The point is, that more times than not, gossip does hurt someone and the people who are hurt are never around to defend themselves. And, how anyone can determine by simply looking at pictures that two people have had an argument is beyond my comprehension. And some day, you may learn that there is a price to pay for freedom of speech if someone faces a lawsuit for spreading false rumours.
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Old 12-20-2005, 06:10 PM
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Whether or not gossip is meant to hurt, that is not the point. The point is, that more times than not, gossip does hurt someone and the people who are hurt are never around to defend themselves. And, how anyone can determine by simply looking at pictures that two people have had an argument is beyond my comprehension. And some day, you may learn that there is a price to pay for freedom of speech if someone faces a lawsuit for spreading false rumours.
I was just trying to help out another poster by explaing the differance between rumors and observations. Nothing more. I personally did not mention anything about them having an argument. (see post #122). And personally, I do not spread rumors and/or gossip. I myself have been a victim of rumors in my youth and I remember quite clearly how I felt. Therefore, I do not do this.
As for having to pay the price, so to speak, for freedom of speech, this would only be if something was said with malicious intent to harm or demean another persons character. Anything else would be considered a frivilous law suit and would not stand a chance in the court of law. So given that I stated "my observation" and I did not spread a malicious or demeaning rumor and/or gossip, I have no worries in this regard.
But, alas, I have learned another valuble lesson today, and that is: I will not try and help explain someone else's words, no matter how clear they may be. I will only defend and explain my own words. So for that "I THANK YOU"
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Old 12-20-2005, 06:19 PM
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I was just trying to help out another poster by explaing the differance between rumors and observations. Nothing more. I personally did not mention anything about them having an argument. (see post #122). And personally, I do not spread rumors and/or gossip. I myself have been a victim of rumors in my youth and I remember quite clearly how I felt. Therefore, I do not do this.
As for having to pay the price, so to speak, for freedom of speech, this would only be if something was said with malicious intent to harm or demean another persons character. Anything else would be considered a frivilous law suit and would not stand a chance in the court of law. So given that I stated "my observation" and I did not spread a malicious or demeaning rumor and/or gossip, I have no worries in this regard.
But, alas, I have learned another valuble lesson today, and that is: I will not try and help explain someone else's words, no matter how clear they may be. I will only defend and explain my own words. So for that "I THANK YOU"
Thank you for that interesting response.

I must say that I agree with Mandy 110%

Um....I was not attacking your right to freedom of speech, I was stating that the observations made are ones prone to start rumours.

I do apologise if this has caused you undue stress or anxiety.

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Old 12-20-2005, 09:06 PM
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There are some photos of the event not shown here which show a very happy Frederik and Mary at this event...there are also some video clips as well. After seeing these pics and videos, anyone can see that there's no tension or unhappiness between them! In addition, when Mary and Frederik arrived, they were being escorted by their hosts into the event, so they could not walk side by side. They left the event walking side by side and were very happy! There are some photos of Frederik and Mary looking at each other and there's no tension or unhappiness! I have not made these comments to target anyone and if anybody feels that way, then I apologize. But we have to bear in mind that we do not always see all of the photos from an event to get a true picture of someone's demeanor and appearance! I have posted a link at the end of this message where additional photos and video clips can be seen. Feel free to register (a very simple process)!
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Old 12-20-2005, 11:09 PM
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I was just trying to help out another poster by explaing the differance between rumors and observations. Nothing more. I personally did not mention anything about them having an argument. (see post #122). And personally, I do not spread rumors and/or gossip. I myself have been a victim of rumors in my youth and I remember quite clearly how I felt. Therefore, I do not do this.
As for having to pay the price, so to speak, for freedom of speech, this would only be if something was said with malicious intent to harm or demean another persons character. Anything else would be considered a frivilous law suit and would not stand a chance in the court of law. So given that I stated "my observation" and I did not spread a malicious or demeaning rumor and/or gossip, I have no worries in this regard.
But, alas, I have learned another valuble lesson today, and that is: I will not try and help explain someone else's words, no matter how clear they may be. I will only defend and explain my own words. So for that "I THANK YOU"
Sesa, I was not responding just to your post, but to several comments that had already been expressed. I'm sorry if you took it personally. It is a wise decision to only defend our own position since we cannot read anyone else's mind. :)
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Old 12-21-2005, 03:09 AM
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Thank you for that interesting response.

I must say that I agree with Mandy 110%

Um....I was not attacking your right to freedom of speech, I was stating that the observations made are ones prone to start rumours.

I do apologise if this has caused you undue stress or anxiety.

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Old 12-21-2005, 03:35 AM
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The knight on shining armor of Denmark!!! The Queen must give you an award or something or maybe hire you at the public relations department for the Crown jejeje
Crisiñaki,

I have saddled up my chestnut mare (the finnest livery a horse could possibly sport) have armoured up, flag of the Dannebrog in one hand, Order of the Elephant drapped across my chest plate & sword by my side

In the name of Hendes Majestæt Dronning Margrethe II og Danmark...chaaaaarge.

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Old 12-21-2005, 04:40 AM
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The knight on shining armor of Denmark!!! The Queen must give you an award or something or maybe hire you at the public relations department for the Crown jejeje
Crisinaki

Knights in shining armour are a thing of the long past. However, when did defending someones honour or reputation ever become something to ridicule??

I feel, it's an honourable trait.:)


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Old 12-21-2005, 08:27 AM
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There are some photos of the event not shown here which show a very happy Frederik and Mary at this event...there are also some video clips as well. After seeing these pics and videos, anyone can see that there's no tension or unhappiness between them! In addition, when Mary and Frederik arrived, they were being escorted by their hosts into the event, so they could not walk side by side. They left the event walking side by side and were very happy! There are some photos of Frederik and Mary looking at each other and there's no tension or unhappiness! I have not made these comments to target anyone and if anybody feels that way, then I apologize. But we have to bear in mind that we do not always see all of the photos from an event to get a true picture of someone's demeanor and appearance! I have posted a link at the end of this message where additional photos and video clips can be seen. Feel free to register (a very simple process)!
http://crownprincessmary.ipbhost.com/
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Thankyou for the link. It is a great board and I am also a member there as would be many from this forum. Mary looks stunning in dark clothes and I think her hair is definately darker. It looks great darker. Speaking like a real commoner, "she is a stunner".

I don't mind the pale faced look (is it Gothic??) it suits Mary when it is appropriate. Maybe it's just the contrast between her skin and the dark clothing which makes her look pale. I like her no matter how she looks.


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Old 12-21-2005, 09:44 PM
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I agree that everyone needs to be careful when posting any comments and that we all need to think before we speak and I mean NO OFFENSE BY THIS WHATSOEVER, but I find it hard to believe that one comment by one person on this thread is going to spark a fury that the relationship of the crown prince and princess is in trouble. I just don't see that anything any of us say is that important.

I don't mean to 'beat a dead horse' and I don't want to argue with anyone, these are just my opinions and I wanted to share.
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Didnt know I would cause such trouble. I was just stating an observation. I have always liked Mary. I guess she just seemed overbearing and arrogant to me there. I was probably seeing a side of her that her dislikers see. I still like her but she I just saw something different. I still like them and I never said there marriage was in trouble. That they look like a real married couple with real problems who are exhausted. Its nice to know my words carry such significance. Now back on topic. Her hair didnt seem darker to me. I think its just the lighting. Does anybody know the next time the will attend a gala or formal event. I would love to see what new dresses she will wear.
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New Mum Mary Ever Poised As She Resumes Duties

Following her betrothal to Crown Prince Frederik of Denmark, Australian-born Mary Donaldson was carefully groomed for her new role as a Scandinavian princess – emerging a sophisticated and elegant young lady. And as time passes, the chic brunette has increasingly grown into her position.......
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Not to criticize Mary...who I think is doing a fantastic job...but I hardly think going to a couple of events is overdoing it. As someone previously mentioned..there are tons of women world wide who go back to work within six weeks..and they are working 30 to 40 hours a week. She is a bright beautiful women..she wouldn't over do it.
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Old 12-22-2005, 11:47 AM
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Not to criticize Mary...who I think is doing a fantastic job...but I hardly think going to a couple of events is overdoing it. As someone previously mentioned..there are tons of women world wide who go back to work within six weeks..and they are working 30 to 40 hours a week. She is a bright beautiful women..she wouldn't over do it.
I agree with you. but then; she has no ordinary job.
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Not to criticize Mary...who I think is doing a fantastic job...but I hardly think going to a couple of events is overdoing it. As someone previously mentioned..there are tons of women world wide who go back to work within six weeks..and they are working 30 to 40 hours a week. She is a bright beautiful women..she wouldn't over do it.
I agree Zonk,

HRH the Crown Princess would not have resumed public duty if she thought it to much. Mary is most capable, of this I am sure!

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