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Old 01-25-2012, 03:33 PM
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I have just heard an extraordinary video on Youtube which appears to be a record made by Margriet and Pieter for their 12th (?) wedding anniversary singing a song called "Samen". The video is titled "Unieke geluidsopname "Samen" gezongen door Mr. Pieter van Vollenhoven en prinses Margriet". It's quite a jolly song.

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Old 01-23-2013, 08:06 AM
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The Royal Order of Sartorial Splendor: Wedding Wednesday: Princess Margriet's Gown

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Old 04-18-2014, 09:09 PM
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My favorite photograph is Princess Margriet with the little boy and the little girl.
It is nice to include children as participants on the bride's wedding day.
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Old 03-17-2016, 10:59 AM
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I have just been reading an authorised biography of Pieter van Vollenhoven. I never realised just how difficult their engagement and wedding was. Queen Juliana was the only one in favor of the match it seems. The court, Bernhard, Armgard, Beatrix, several ministers etc. were all against it, as were much of Pieter's friends and family from the patriciate and nobility of Rotterdam, including his own parents. The latter were actually greatly embarrassed as for a man to marry 'above' his station in life was considered an enormous faux pas which showed lack of character.

Apart from all the resentment, disapproval and shame, there was also a big issue with the wedding location. Something I never heard of before. The root of it was the wedding of Princess Irene.

The Dutch government did not want the wedding of Irene to become a focus point for a pro-carlist demonstration and was against a grand wedding in The Hague. To evade embarrassement, the Parma family was told that all younger princesses would marry in Baarn, including Irene. The Parma's didn't find the location grand enough and opted for Rome instead, much to the relief of the government.

Now when it was Margriet's turn she very much wanted to get married in The Hague, like ALL Dutch princesses before her (save her two elder sisters). Carlos-Hugo and Irene were dead set against it due to the agreement made about their own wedding. Bernhard -of course- supported his favourite daughter Irene, as did Armgard. Beatrix did so too as she was unhappy with a Dutch commoner being married into the family (although the Van Vollenhoven family can be considered more prestigious than the Von Amsbergs). Juliana tried to navigate her way but quietly agreed with Margriet.

Prime minister Cals received various contradictory messages an phone calls from members of the family. Some said Margriet wanted to get married in Baarn, some said Juliana was in favor of it too, or that Bernhard was in favor of a wedding in The Hague etc. The latter thing was followed with two angry phone calls from Bernhard to the PM, in which he said he was strongly against a wedding in The Hague, and so was his wife, he claimed. Queen Juliana -who was listening to the phone call- called the PM 5 minutes later, saying she was not against a wedding in The Hague at all.

Juliana didn't want to force a family row over the matter but asked the PM if he could not insist on a wedding in The Hague? Initially the PM didn't want to get into this family quarrel. In the end the thing was settled by the mayor of The Hague who said that his city would be angry if the wedding would take place elsewhere.

Princess Margriet probably wanted The Hague also to show that she thought she actually strengthened the monarchy with her choice of a Dutch commoner for a husband. An idea that was always supported by her mother and which was also discussed with her late grandmother Queen Wilhelmina -to whom she was much closer than her other sisters were as she spent many weekends with the old queen at Het Loo Palace. Wilhelmina thought that a marriage to a Dutch commoner would show the strong bond between the house of Orange and the people of The Netherlands. She disliked the nobility immensely and did not want any noble families get any ideas into their heads by being related to the RF. In the end Margriet, Juliana and Wilhelmina were right of course. Princess Armgard didn't attend the wedding out of protest btw, though the official explanation was that she had fallen ill.
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^^^^^^ Interesting read, i didn't realize things got that bad either...
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Oh dear. I never knew that.
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Old 03-17-2016, 02:48 PM
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Is this biography also available in Germany?
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Old 03-18-2016, 04:17 AM
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The biography is from 2002, I stumbled on it in the local library. It highlights Pieter's difficulties in getting himself established and his eventual rehabilitation. The book argues that behind closed doors, this marriage was much more controversial than the ones of Beatrix or even of Irene.
The book is only available in Dutch.

It also claimed that Beatrix was against Bernhard jr. seeking official approval from parlament for his wedding. But it does not elaborate in detail why and how, though the author assumes that Annette's background may have something to do with it (working class). The government did not understand why Maurits would get aproval and his brother not, so they went against Beatrix.
In the end Beatrix' got her way in not allowing the offspring of Bernhard or his younger siblings to add the 'van Lippe Biesterfeld' to the surnames.
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[...] She disliked the nobility immensely and did not want any noble families get any ideas into their heads by being related to the RF. [...]
That must be the "new" Wilhelmina from after her exile during WWII. Before WWII there was no any place in the Netherlands with more nobles cluttered than the royal court!

Queen Wilhelmina made sure her own daughter Juliana was placed in a private class with only girls from the nobility: Jonkvrouw Maria de Jonge, Elise Baroness Bentinck, Elizabeth Baroness van Hardenbroek and Princess Juliana of the Netherlands.

Of course, the cluttered nobility was also a source of intrigues and feuds, as we could see during the Hofmans Crisis, when a part of the Household took side with Queen Juliana and another part followed Prince Bernhard.
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Old 03-25-2016, 08:11 AM
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This is interesting.
If one wedding was lucky among Bernhard and Juliana's daughers is is Princess Margriet. What nice 4 boys they have striking all to gether against cancer.

the late Prince Friso's wedding was not easy too.
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The argument that a wedding to a Dutch commoner would endear the Royal House more is hard to prove. No any royal was more met with genuine love and admiration as Juliana, as royal as possible from both maternal and paternal sides. No consort was more popular (and therefore his fall was harder) than Bernhard zur Lippe-Biesterfeld. It was exactly the groom in question, Pieter van Vollenhoven, who had to fight hard to be taken au sérieux by his fellow commoner countrymen who seemed to treat him alike his own parents: "Know your place!"

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