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Old 04-29-2004, 12:12 PM
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The racingpost.co.uk has just reported that Mr. Haya and his beautiful bride are in England to inspect his racehorses for this season's flat racing campaign. I'm sure they will be at the Guineas this weekend. If any of you are in the neighborhood-I'm sure they would love for you to stop by and wish them well.

I would send them a gift but I'm certain they already have a toaster. :P
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Old 04-29-2004, 01:12 PM
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Originally posted by paloma@Apr 28th, 2004 - 9:10 pm
People think that it is a joke considering the fact that the government wants to issue a decree preventing Emirati men from marrying foreign women. At this point, even though marriage to a foreigner is not prohibited, any Emirati man who marries a foreigner is looked down upon by the society. He will find himself unable to have his pick of the best jobs etc.
Paloma,

It's so sad that people consider Haya a foreigner even though she's an Arabic/Muslim woman. I think that's aweful!
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Old 04-29-2004, 03:12 PM
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I don't think it is so much tribal. To better understand it, imagine King Abdullah taking on a second wife. Because the people love Rania, the second wife will not be very popular with the public. The reason why everyone is being understanding about PH is because they like her. If it had been someone other than PH, I believe they would be siding with Hind more.

But at the end of the day, it's their life and they're free to do as they like.
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Old 04-29-2004, 03:36 PM
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Don't underestimate tribal connections-especially in the Emirates.

Also, I think many of the posts from people within the Emirates have stated that this union is NOT being viewed positively. And Jordanians are forgeiners in the Emirates. They might be Arab and Muslim but they are not locals. This is the way it is. Yes Jordanians are more welocmed in marriages than say an alien with 2 heads but not by much. All women I know who are married to Emiratis have faced considerable difficulty intergrating. Usually the only accepted thing to do is to break all times with the 'other' culture-whatever/wherever it is.
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Old 04-29-2004, 04:33 PM
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Originally posted by nicole@Apr 29th, 2004 - 12:12 pm
Paloma,

It's so sad that people consider Haya a foreigner even though she's an Arabic/Muslim woman. I think that's aweful!
But aren't the Hashemites from Jordan always stressing that they are not like everyone else because they are Hashemites?
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Old 04-29-2004, 04:50 PM
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I found another picture of them together:

http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory_plain.asp?id=17935

Couldn't find the racing post article though...
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Old 04-29-2004, 05:09 PM
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the article in question:

http://www.racingpost.co.uk/horses/?MIval=...k&page=latest14

"....The Guineas contenders had been given a day to settle in before enjoying light exercise inthe confines of Godolphin stables on Bury Road on Tuesday but it was time to take the wraps off in front of Sheikh Mohammed, his new wife Princess Haya and other members of the team....."

you have to register for the racing post, so i thought i would save you the hassle
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Old 04-30-2004, 02:37 AM
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Thanks :flower:
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Old 05-02-2004, 04:38 PM
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http://www.economist.com/cities/brie...fm?city_id=DUB

Another perspective on the happy couple.
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Old 05-03-2004, 04:15 PM
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Is she pregnant? She looks heavier, but it could be a. the fact that her hair is less blond; b. the unstylish length of the skirt; or c. the too big suit!
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Old 05-03-2004, 05:41 PM
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Thanks for the photos Dennis. What's the occasion?

Cheers
It must be horse-related event...
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She looks darker..is this her true complexion because she is not putting that much make up especially the powder....

The blue color is fine on her..the cut of the suit is good on her from the top but not the lower part...
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Old 05-03-2004, 05:41 PM
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Is she pregnant? She looks heavier, but it could be a. the fact that her hair is less blond; b. the unstylish length of the skirt; or c. the too big suit!
The same thing crossed my mind. P. Haya looks pregnant. Notice in most of the shots she discretely "hides" her tummy behind S. Mohammed. What would be the repercussions if P/ Haya were to have a child before the "official" wedding ceremony planned for later this year.
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Old 05-03-2004, 05:45 PM
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I highly doubt that there will be any repercussions...Sure, there will be rumors (assuming she is pregnant) but no right-minded man will open his mouth if he wants to keep his life Accusing the royal family of indeceny is harshly punished in Jordan as I'm sure it is in the UAE.
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Old 05-03-2004, 05:52 PM
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Is she pregnant? She looks heavier, but it could be a. the fact that her hair is less blond; b. the unstylish length of the skirt; or c. the too big suit!
The same thing crossed my mind. P. Haya looks pregnant. Notice in most of the shots she discretely "hides" her tummy behind S. Mohammed. What would be the repercussions if P/ Haya were to have a child before the "official" wedding ceremony planned for later this year. [/b][/quote]
Assuming she is pregnant, there will be no repercussions because they are already married as the marriage contract is signed AND Islamically, they are fine.

Most Arab muslims still prefer to have babies after the wedding party even if they sign the marriage contract before that but if pregnancy occurs, no one should normally blame because again the marriage contract is there...
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Old 05-03-2004, 05:56 PM
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Is she pregnant? She looks heavier, but it could be a. the fact that her hair is less blond; b. the unstylish length of the skirt; or c. the too big suit!

The same thing crossed my mind. P. Haya looks pregnant. Notice in most of the shots she discretely "hides" her tummy behind S. Mohammed. What would be the repercussions if P/ Haya were to have a child before the "official" wedding ceremony planned for later this year.
Assuming she is pregnant, there will be no repercussions because they are already married as the marriage contract is signed AND Islamically, they are fine.

Most Arab muslims still prefer to have babies after the wedding party even if they sign the marriage contract before that but if pregnancy occurs, no one should normally blame because again the marriage contract is there... [/b][/quote]
Ah, yes, but for her to be 'showing' so soon after the nikah, she obviously must have had pre-marital relations (assuming she is pregnant). That's not Islamically okay. If true, the gossips in Amman will have a field day!
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Old 05-03-2004, 05:57 PM
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Originally posted by madonna23@May 3rd, 2004 - 5:45 pm
I highly doubt that there will be any repercussions...Sure, there will be rumors (assuming she is pregnant) but no right-minded man will open his mouth if he wants to keep his life Accusing the royal family of indeceny is harshly punished in Jordan as I'm sure it is in the UAE.
you mean like decapitation in a public place


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Old 05-03-2004, 06:04 PM
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Is she pregnant? She looks heavier, but it could be a. the fact that her hair is less blond; b. the unstylish length of the skirt; or c. the too big suit!

The same thing crossed my mind. P. Haya looks pregnant. Notice in most of the shots she discretely "hides" her tummy behind S. Mohammed. What would be the repercussions if P/ Haya were to have a child before the "official" wedding ceremony planned for later this year.

Assuming she is pregnant, there will be no repercussions because they are already married as the marriage contract is signed AND Islamically, they are fine.

Most Arab muslims still prefer to have babies after the wedding party even if they sign the marriage contract before that but if pregnancy occurs, no one should normally blame because again the marriage contract is there...
Ah, yes, but for her to be 'showing' so soon after the nikah, she obviously must have had pre-marital relations (assuming she is pregnant). That's not Islamically okay. If true, the gossips in Amman will have a field day! [/b][/quote]
Yes, you are right...but I assumed that pregnancy, if she really is, happened after they signed the marriage contract. if NOT, then...
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Old 05-03-2004, 06:48 PM
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Hmmmm....this has been my suspicion all along. It would explain the quick, secretive, hurried nature of everything.

Sure they are will be married BEFORE the birth of the child but the conception will be a whole 'nother matter.

Also from my own personal experience-it takes about 3-4months to be showing when pregnant with first child. All subsequent pregnancy's show earlier.
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Old 05-03-2004, 06:56 PM
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you mean like decapitation in a public place
No. I meant more along the lines of jail time. It is written in Jordanian law that you cannot insult the King or the royal family. I'm assuming there is something similar in Emriti law. In any case, I doubt the pregnancy rumor will be commented upon by either the media or the elites of society.
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Old 05-03-2004, 07:04 PM
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Is she pregnant? She looks heavier, but it could be a. the fact that her hair is less blond; b. the unstylish length of the skirt; or c. the too big suit!

The same thing crossed my mind. P. Haya looks pregnant. Notice in most of the shots she discretely "hides" her tummy behind S. Mohammed. What would be the repercussions if P/ Haya were to have a child before the "official" wedding ceremony planned for later this year.

Assuming she is pregnant, there will be no repercussions because they are already married as the marriage contract is signed AND Islamically, they are fine.

Most Arab muslims still prefer to have babies after the wedding party even if they sign the marriage contract before that but if pregnancy occurs, no one should normally blame because again the marriage contract is there...

Ah, yes, but for her to be 'showing' so soon after the nikah, she obviously must have had pre-marital relations (assuming she is pregnant). That's not Islamically okay. If true, the gossips in Amman will have a field day!
Yes, you are right...but I assumed that pregnancy, if she really is, happened after they signed the marriage contract. if NOT, then... [/b][/quote]
you mean he took her innocence away :woot:


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