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The wedding was wonderful, congratulations to the couple.
The hair veil and the tiara i love it tey were wonderful. But the bridal gown a disaster. A mix of i dont know. I dont like it. The swedish wedding gowns from victoria and madeleine were fantastic but this wasnt good.
A "disaster"? Sofia's gown and the flowers were the best thing about the wedding, imo.

I can't deny that she was a perfectly beautiful bride, just as I expected she would be.
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A "disaster"? Sofia's gown and the flowers were the best thing about the wedding, imo.

I can't deny that she was a perfectly beautiful bride, just as I expected she would be.
Don't forget the tiara. It was pretty cool.
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Old 06-15-2015, 01:55 AM
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Oh my God...YES!! That tiara!! What was I thinking??

And those delicious, exquisite babies Lenore and Estelle.....
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Old 06-15-2015, 01:56 AM
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I was very impressed with the flowers and the cake. That cake was spectacular.
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Old 06-15-2015, 02:05 AM
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I am currently watching the end of the ceremony with "Joyful, joyful". I am definitely unimpressed. It had no class IMHO.
Love for liturgical rite is a good reason for my being a catholic. I can't get used to non-liturgical music being performed in a religiou ceremony.
I agree with you, but I'm afraid that you chose a bad example. "Joyful, joyful" is a hymn of adoration to God and therefore entirely appropriate from a liturgical perspective... even if the Gospel rendition was out of place in that context. However, when it comes to the songs by Coldplay and Rihanna... that's a different story. They may have been meaningful to the couple, but they had zero relevance to the liturgy.
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Old 06-15-2015, 02:12 AM
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I agree with you, but I'm afraid that you chose a bad example. "Joyful, joyful" is a hymn of adoration to God and therefore entirely appropriate from a liturgical perspective... even if the Gospel rendition was out of place in that context. However, when it comes to the songs by Coldplay and Rihanna... that's a different story. They may have been meaningful to the couple, but they had zero relevance to the liturgy.

They did have relevance to the liturgy since its customary to include songs and/or poetry celebrating the love between the bridal couple during weddings in the Church of Sweden.


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I was very impressed with the flowers and the cake. That cake was spectacular.
I was really impressed with the flowers too and found them quite stunning. Not only did they decorate the pews and the railing but also covered the wall behind the altar.
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Old 06-15-2015, 02:28 AM
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I was really impressed with the flowers too and found them quite stunning. Not only did they decorate the pews and the railing but also covered the wall behind the altar.
They looked like David Austin roses to me, which are old-fashioned in style like that but have a delightful fragrance.
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Old 06-15-2015, 02:29 AM
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That may have to do with cultural tradition, but it doesn't have anything to do with liturgy, with worshipping God. That's what "liturgy" means... "the work of the people"... the work of praise and adoration. Otherwise why not go to the civil registry office? You can play Rihanna there.
Maybe they were more interested in getting married than worshipping God.
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Maybe they were more interested in getting married than worshipping God.
Then why not go to a civil registry office? One can get married there.
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Then why not go to a civil registry office? You can get married there. It might be a more contextually appropriate setting for Rihanna and Coldplay.
Do you honestly believe that the son of the king would be able to get away with getting married in a registry office?

I really don't understand all this fuss about the music. They got married in a church in a religious service. The minister no doubt said all the necessary religious stuff. Everyone behaved respectfully. It's not as though they played heavy metal music. I'm sure the minister would have vetoed anything he considered inappropriate.
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Carl Philip and Sofia had a wedding they probably had wished, but there was no class during the whole day.
I agree. The dress was lovely, and the flowers, but the music (except for the two hymns)
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Old 06-15-2015, 02:56 AM
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I was very impressed with the flowers and the cake. That cake was spectacular.
I didn't understand that cake...or those cakes... at all. It was just...weird. Does anyone know what flavor it was? Or does anyone have a photo of it after it was cut?

It just looked like a bunch of white porcelain pot lids connected by stainless steel beams.


I have to agree with claypoint2. Anyone not interested in worshipping God should not bother with a religious church wedding. Otherwise you are a hypocrite just mouthing meaningless words and reciting prayers that you don't believe in.

Be brave enough to admit you don't believe, and insist on a civil ceremony.
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I didn't understand that cake...or those cakes... at all. It was just...weird. Does anyone know what flavor it was? Or does anyone have a photo of it after it was cut?

It just looked like a bunch of white porcelain pot lids connected by stainless steel beams.
There was a feature on it in the wedding coverage. The chef was interviewed. Unfortunately he was speaking Swedish so I have no idea what he said, though I do think "pistachio" was mentioned. It looked very interesting. Different layers and colourful. And I liked the interesting design with the different levels. It reminded me of the three dimensional chess set Sheldon and Leonard were playing in one episode of Big Bang Theory.

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I have to agree with claypoint2. Anyone not interested in worshipping God should not bother with a religious church wedding. Otherwise you are a hypocrite just mouthing meaningless words and reciting prayers that you don't believe in.

Be brave enough to admit you don't believe, and insist on a civil ceremony.
That's actually the reason I refused to get married in a church, and why I do not recite the words of prayers or sing hymns when I do have to go to a church for funerals, etc. I am an atheist and I refuse to be a hypocrite in that regard.

But there are lots of people who do believe in God even though they are not active members of their church. People worship their God many different ways and to different degrees, and I reckon if they want to get married in church and their minister knows their level of belief and commitment and is willing to perform the service, that's fine. If you restricted church weddings to people who are staunch believers and regular churchgoers then a lot of churches would be empty on Saturday.
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Well that makes sense Roslyn and I respect you for your honesty. Thanks.

But let's talk some more about that cake. Pistachio? Sounds delicious. Does anyone have any photos of it after it was sliced? The sugar addict in me is really desperate to know!
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This wedding cake i don't like at all. I don't mean the taste they don't send me a piece i mean the shape it was like a spaceship.
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A "disaster"? Sofia's gown and the flowers were the best thing about the wedding, imo.

I can't deny that she was a perfectly beautiful bride, just as I expected she would be.
Agree. She was a great bride, beautiful, with a perfect gown (there have been gowns for more conservative brides I really dislike ).
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This wedding cake i don't like at all. I don't mean the taste they don't send me a piece i mean the shape it was like a spaceship.
Yes! That's what it looked like...a spaceship!

But I have been to weddings where the cake didn't look pretty but tasted great.
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Ok folks, I didn't realize pop music was common during swedish services. It is really a matter of taste, I am quite old school when it comes to liturgy.
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For some strange reason, I'm going to try once more to inform everyone about weddings in Swedish tradition, just like JR76 and other Swedish posters including myself have done before (but with no luck). Here we go.

Besides the camera and tiaras, there was nothing going on during the wedding ceremony that was strange or out of the ordinary. They followed the wedding lithurgy of the Church of Sweden from top to toe. Nothing was changed in that matter.

The ritual includes one or two psalms from the traditional book of psalms. Besides that, it is custom that the bride and groom picks 2-3 other songs that means a lot to them, and that they are made part of the ceremony. This happend at both Victorias and Madeleines weddings, and it's happening at almost all other Church weddings in Sweden.

You may or may not like the music that is chosen, and that's fine. We have different tastes. (I didn't like the second one either). But if you're suggesting that the wedding was tacky because the couple chose some contemporary song, I think you've misunderstod what Swedish marriage traditions look like.

The last song was a gospel. It's an adptation of Beethovens "Ode an die freude". Gospel music like this has been part of the music tradition here in Sweden for a long time now, and lots of churches have their own gospel choir. I think that most swedes were plesantly surprised that they chose a gospel song (with christian lyrics) to end the ceremony.

Other countries have different traditions. I understand and respect that. You may like or dislike this couple, and you may like or dislike their choice in music. But it is very much in keeping with Swedish tradition, and their choice in music says nothing about their personal faith in God (or lack thereof). And since it's totally in keeping with the tradition, there is no reason what so ever for anyone of their wedding officiants to complain about anything.
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