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Old 06-14-2015, 03:45 AM
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A beautiful Wedding, with a couple who will always help and support each other. Will the new Princess have any Ladies in Waiting to help her with Royal Engagements? Also, she will need a Royal wardrobe, and am wondering who the Designers will be?

Are there any detailed descriptions/pictures of the Dress at all?

e.g. Material, etc etc.

Could not see her shoes, so not sure about them?
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Old 06-14-2015, 03:49 AM
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Princess Takamado leaving the Grand Hotel this morning
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Old 06-14-2015, 03:50 AM
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No, the wedding was no disappointment, the Scandinavians can display some serious royal grandeur. But in another debate on this forum a poster wrote "The monarchy is tradition, honor, exemplariness, gestures ...". Then seeing Ms Hellqvist -pardon, Princess Sofia of Sweden- splashed out in bikini, on the internet, in internatonial magazines and being described as "Real Life Soap Star and Bikini Model", that makes my loyal royal heart cringe. I am often slashed on this board for being oldfashioned in my desire that royals should go for the longer term interests of their monarchy and marry "suitable" partners.
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Well, there are nobles without class or charisma and who can be just as unsuited as any commoner or royal for that matter.

IMO it doesn't matter so much what linage you have, is it's what you do with your (new) royal status that matters. It's the whole person that matters.

Elevating someone into royalty is not the biggest problem to me. That is akin to the military: you salute the rank, not the man. But genuine respect, popularity and sometimes veneration that is something you can only earn the hard way and that applies to anyone without exception, be they royals, nobles or commoners.

To sum up:
If you greet a royal you may see someone with a similar background to you. And not be impressed.
If I greet a royal, I may see someone who is an adulterer, or who is lazy or who can't count to twenty without taking off his shoes. And not be impressed.

However, while I firmly believe the monarchies need fresh blood and especially a fresh view on things, I share your concern about royals becoming too ordinary. I quote QMII loosely here: "You should follow your heart, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't use your head".
It is IMO absolutely essential that royalty remain something special while at the same time not being aloof. Without mentioning names some modern royals try their very best to be as ordinary as possible and that's a mistake IMO, a more serious mistake than whom they may marry, because they are not and should not be "ordinary".
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Old 06-14-2015, 04:12 AM
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The Princess seems an elegant, delightful woman. I really like her.
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Old 06-14-2015, 04:28 AM
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Did Sofia wear a second dress during the party?
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Old 06-14-2015, 04:31 AM
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Biking is popular amongst royals, it seems. Nicholas de Roumanie Medforth-Mills (a.k.a. Prince Nicolae of Romania) is also very active on the bike these days.
Is a little irrelevant to the wedding but Nicolae is Prince Nicolae of Romania and not (A.K.A.)
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Old 06-14-2015, 04:48 AM
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You are apparently unaware of the fact there once were the Silvia's and Sonja's ,or the Claus's and Henrik's of the spectrum...It all happened before...almost 50 years ago,and thank goodness for that!!...No...you're being awfully snobbish Henri....My five cents!


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No, the wedding was no disappointment, the Scandinavians can display some serious royal grandeur. But in another debate on this forum a poster wrote "The monarchy is tradition, honor, exemplariness, gestures ...". Then seeing Ms Hellqvist -pardon, Princess Sofia of Sweden- splashed out in bikini, on the internet, in internatonial magazines and being described as "Real Life Soap Star and Bikini Model", that makes my loyal royal heart cringe. I am often slashed on this board for being oldfashioned in my desire that royals should go for the longer term interests of their monarchy and marry "suitable" partners.

Averyone, from the man in the street to the lady behind her laptop somewhere in Australia sees that it does not matter at all. You were the personal sports instructor of the Crown Princess? Welcome His Royal Highness Prince Daniel of Sweden! You were a bikini model and real life soap actress? Welcome Her Royal Highness Princess Sofia of Sweden! You were an unwed mother with a son from a guy somewhere? Welcome Her Royal Highness Princess Mette-Marit of Norway! You were splashed out on the Spanish TV-screens, day in, day out, reading the news? Welcome Her Majesty The Queen of Spain... suddenly you are no longer a journalist, a sports instructor, a bikini model or a waitress in a bar but a "Royal Highness"....

People start to see that it is all just theatre and that apparently the standards of what was once seen as "an acceptable choice" have immensely lowered. It is clear that the monarchies, delivering heads-of-states some of the world's most developed and modern countries has become more and more a vaudeville, a real life soap opera avant la lettre.

Popularity? Queen Mathilde of the Belgians, her mother a Countess Komorowska, her sister a Marchioness Pallavicini, her another sister a Baroness Janssen and her brother a Count d'Udekem d'Acoz, all firmly rooted in the aristocracy, hits all popularity polls as the most beloved royal in Belgium. So being from a traditonal backgroud is not at all a hindrance. Look at Lady Diana Spencer, a deeply blue-blooded lady dubbed "The People's Princess". I think people somehow deep inside will see a Lady Spencer, a Countess d'Udekem d'Acoz or a Countess de Lannoy as more "suitable material", but tja... we are "democratic" and "politic correct" aren't we? Who claims that a daughter of one of the Grandes, of a Duque there or a Conde there would never be "popular". I bet she could easily outpower the bleak and uninspiring Letizia Ortiz.

Queen Máxima was the star of the day, in a fantastic dress and sporting great Jewels from the Orange-Nassau collection. Still, every time I see her, I can not suppress a feeling: "Girl, you are no royal... you play, you pretend that you are royal." I have exactly the same feeling with Sophia Hellqvist: "Girl, you are standing next to the wrong dude, you can not stand in the shadow of a Sybilla von Sachsen-Coburg, of a Margaret Connaught, of a Victoria von Baden!"

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Old 06-14-2015, 05:14 AM
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I decided to place this here, rather than in one of the fashion threads, but this one is new to me!

The Danish tabloid bashes a Norwegian fashion expert for finding QMII's dress inappropriate. Norge sviner dronning Margrethes røde kjole - Royale | www.bt.dk

In the Norwegian paper, Dagbladet, a Marianne Jemtegaard, says that a red dress at a wedding is a big no-no!
It symbolize that you have or have had an affair with the groom...
- Da signaliserer du at du har hatt en aff?re med brudgommen - Kjendis

Interesting... I knew that white and black are no-go at weddings but red?!?
Mrs Muhler and I are going to a wedding in a couple of months, are there any other colors that are off?
And how about us menfolks? Any don't for us?
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Old 06-14-2015, 05:21 AM
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Oh my god also Maxima wore Red i think Carl-Philip was very naughty.
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Old 06-14-2015, 05:32 AM
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I totally agree, the whole day was one big disappointment. According to the press, the queen was singing to a "microphone" some Madonna.
Maybe she was just sneezing. How should we know or the press?
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Old 06-14-2015, 05:40 AM
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Yes she did...Ida Sjöstedt said it on morning tv....
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Old 06-14-2015, 05:40 AM
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The Swedish Royal Wedding Was The Party Of The*Year, interesting post about the wedding from Buzzfeed today including few GIFs.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/sheridanwats...te#.bc5lwY0rAn
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Old 06-14-2015, 05:43 AM
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For me the wedding was no disappointment. Actually I really liked this wedding!
Imo it was a very joyful and happy event. Carl Philip and Sofia looked so happy and in love. It was wonderful to see that.

About the ceremony: it was youthful, modern and romantic. I really loved when the Swedish singer sang "Fix you". Wow. I know many people thought the gospel song in the end of the church service was weird but I actually thought this was special and somehow quite a nice idea. The royals seemed to enjoy themselves.

I really enjoyed watching the wedding. I hope they'll stay as happy as they are and don't mind the haters.
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Old 06-14-2015, 05:48 AM
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Interesting... I knew that white and black are no-go at weddings but red?!?
Mrs Muhler and I are going to a wedding in a couple of months, are there any other colors that are off?
And how about us menfolks? Any don't for us?
The swedish etiquette experts said before the wedding that it is total nonsense that a woman can't wear red at the wedding. Of course she can, and it doesn't mean anything if she wears it.
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Old 06-14-2015, 05:48 AM
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Oh my god also Maxima wore Red i think Carl-Philip was very naughty.

I didn't know that a red dress had that meaning somehow i think Q.Margrethe will have a good laugh about that
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Old 06-14-2015, 06:08 AM
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Some people seem to have a huge immagination....
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Old 06-14-2015, 06:11 AM
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the pictures say it all for me
http://gfx2.aftonbladet-cdn.se/image.../bildextra.jpg
http://gfx.aftonbladet-cdn.se/image/.../1200+(16).jpg
thankfully at least some members of the srf didn't show themselves in such embarrassment.
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Old 06-14-2015, 06:17 AM
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the pictures say it all for me
http://gfx2.aftonbladet-cdn.se/image.../bildextra.jpg
http://gfx.aftonbladet-cdn.se/image/.../1200+(16).jpg
thankfully at least some members of the srf didn't show themselves in such embarrassment.
Yep, not very flattering looks this.... this will probably have happened at other royal events too, but there they have made sure the public eye was not able to look in
These will probably pop up in years to come again and again when people want to make a statement about the decline of royalty
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Old 06-14-2015, 06:22 AM
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Yep, not very flattering looks this.... this will probably have happened at other royal events too, but there they have made sure the public eye was not able to look in
These will probably pop up in years to come again and again when people want to make a statement about the decline of royalty
I am sure that we will witness at least one end of a monarchy.
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Old 06-14-2015, 06:32 AM
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They are wearing the court dresses which have been used since 1988
Kirstine von Blixen-Finecke, First Lady of the Court, the head of The Queen's Household
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Also the queen's ladies-in-waiting use the court dresses at the big events.

Sofia had changed her dress, she was at the Palace window early in the morning.
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The couple look happy. She looked lovely, but the pictures from the window during the dance (where she is waving to people outside) just leaves a poor impression IMO. It just reeks of "I'm better than you now -whoooo hoooo!!".
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