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Old 12-04-2005, 02:43 AM
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Was King Baudouin really in love?

I've often heard that King Baudouin was in love with his step-mother, Princess Lilian. Is there any proof of this besides the alleged taped recording of phone conversations? Also, one of the posters of this message board mentioned that Queen Fabiola managed to lure Baudouin away from Lilian's control - this is where I got another assumption from. Also, after Fabiola and Baudouin's honeymoon, King Leopold and Princess Lilian took all the furniture out of the castle, so when the newlyweds came back, they came back to an empty castle.

Is there any time limit on the availability of information? (eg. White House information is kept secret for 30 years.)
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Old 12-04-2005, 02:55 AM
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I think that if anything, maybe he was a bit besotted, or looked for a doting mother figure in Princess Lilian.
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Old 12-04-2005, 06:47 AM
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Those are disgusting lies. Of course he wasn't in love with Lilian, he considered her as a mother, isn't a boy allowed to kiss his mother on the cheek anymore?? What's this world coming to then?

There exist no taped converstaions. It wasn't Fabiola who "lured himw away" from his stepmother but the Belgian government who finally saw a way of getting Boudewijn away from his parents' political influence. This didn't mean he had to loose contact with them, but Lilian was very radical.

Lilian coudn't stand Fabiola and was very displeased she had to move away from Laken to Argenteuil when Boudewijn got married. This meant she would lose the political influence she and Leopold III had over Boudewijn. She was also unpleased about the fact that Boudewijn only told them about his engagement at the very last moment, just before informing the press. That's why she took all the furniture with her, a way of saying: we don't want to have anything to do with you anymore. She was a very selfish and stubborn woman, and was the cause that Leopold III indeed didn't have any contact anymore with the children from his first marriage for many years.
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Old 12-04-2005, 11:56 PM
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Those are disgusting lies. Of course he wasn't in love with Lilian, he considered her as a mother, isn't a boy allowed to kiss his mother on the cheek anymore?? What's this world coming to then?
That's why I posted the thread - to find out the truth in the allegations. People talk and when the wheel continues to spin, the credibility of the information gets jumbled up and so it's hard to separate fact from fiction.

I'm not from Belgium and no where near it, so information on European royalty is scarce and hard to come by.
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Old 11-27-2013, 10:48 PM
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I reopen this thread to give photographic evidence of their chemistry even as the engagement was just announced in September 1960. This is for anybody reading this thread from the archive.

BEFORE:






AFTER:









He looks completely over the moon to me.

If these two weren't truly in love then nobody has achieved the state.
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Old 11-28-2013, 06:31 AM
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I don't like this thread because it are rumors.
Lilian was the first Lady of Belgium from 1951 to 1960.
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Old 04-22-2014, 06:50 AM
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Most likely King Baudouin searched for warmth and love and found it with his stepmother Princess Lilian. Any rumous of a love-affairs is beyond any reality. The young Baudouin experienced a strict, conservative and religious upbringing and it was out of the question he would ever have engaged into a love-affair with his stepmother. Especially as from May 1940 until July 1950 King Leopold III was only in name King (the country being occupied, then the royal family being exiled, then the regency by the King's brother) and any scandal was the last thing the royal family could use, seeing the unsecure state of the Belgian monarchy.

Yes, King Baudouin felt deeply in love. Not with Princess Lilian but with the Spanish aristocrat Doa Fabiola de Mora y Aragn, daughter of the Marqus de Casa Riera, Conde de Mora. Their marriage, however without offspring, proved to be a most harmonious and deeply-loved one.
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Old 04-22-2014, 01:47 PM
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You are completely right and well written Duc et Pair ! Grateful Thanks
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Most likely King Baudouin searched for warmth and love and found it with his stepmother Princess Lilian. Any rumous of a love-affairs is beyond any reality. The young Baudouin experienced a strict, conservative and religious upbringing and it was out of the question he would ever have engaged into a love-affair with his stepmother. Especially as from May 1940 until July 1950 King Leopold III was only in name King (the country being occupied, then the royal family being exiled, then the regency by the King's brother) and any scandal was the last thing the royal family could use, seeing the unsecure state of the Belgian monarchy.

Yes, King Baudouin felt deeply in love. Not with Princess Lilian but with the Spanish aristocrat Doa Fabiola de Mora y Aragn, daughter of the Marqus de Casa Riera, Conde de Mora. Their marriage, however without offspring, proved to be a most harmonious and deeply-loved one.
I really agree and thank you for having said is so well !
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