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Old 12-16-2015, 04:43 PM
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I also think that it is a pity that none of the other members of the Royal Family attended, as they usually did in the past; on the other hand, IMO it is very nice and somehow refreshing and invigorating to see this new, united, young and happy Royal Family.
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Old 12-16-2015, 04:54 PM
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Queen Fabiola attended almost every year except when frailty and ill health got in the way,it was nice to see the Royal children present.
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Old 12-16-2015, 05:34 PM
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Another gallery of the Christmas concert

BELGIUM ROYALS CHRISTMAS CONCERT - Images | Robin Utrecht | Photoshelter
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Old 12-16-2015, 05:56 PM
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I wonder when we will have our future State Visits , members of the RF will attend ?. Certainly not King Albert Ii and Queen Paola and Laurent will be ill as usual.
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Old 12-16-2015, 06:53 PM
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I doubt that the absent members of the family can afford this behaviour. Especially Laurent. There is no public support for Laurent and Astrid’s dotation at all. And in January the parliament discusses these dotations again and MPs (a member of the government included) of the biggest Flemish party already argued to stop Astrid and Laurent’s dotations. It’s counterproductive not to contribute and attend major events.
Regarding Philippe pushing other members out. He has given many tasks to Laurent and handed over the trade missions to Astrid. That’s not pushing ppl out imo. But in the end of the day it is Philippe who is responsible for the branding of the RF. And if he thinks it’s better to downsize the RF and focus on the core family than it’s his right to do so imo. Just like his father Albert thought it was befitting to give tasks and dotations to all of his children.

On a different note: Eleonore is all grown up now and doesn’t regard photographers as enemies any longer. And Philippe told one of the musicians that he started taking piano lessons 4 years ago.
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Old 12-16-2015, 07:07 PM
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off topic maybe but I think Philippe has done well with his family, giving his siblings their own roles in the RF but a little bit apart from what he and Mathilde do. I think it gives his siblings a purpose and a way to earn their donations but without detracting from him and his immediate family being the future of the monarchy.
I hope, on the case of Astrid at least, its just because of other commitments at this time of year rather than a deliberate snub!
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Old 12-16-2015, 10:45 PM
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The thing here is that the RF wasn't very big: Baudouin had no children, Josephine Charlotte went to Luxembourg, so all the descendants came from Albert, he only had 3 children so there wasn't much talk about dotations and roles when his brother was still alive, specially since Philippe and Laurent took a long time to marry.

Now Albert has TWELVE grandchildren, Philippe alone has FOUR children, of course the RF had to be downsized again and the King's siblings should earn dotations based on what they do, it's no obligation of the State to support them and Albert couldn't have possibly thought that he was going to get the same amount of money (or close) when he was reigning monarch, he doesn't have a huge household to pay for or has to pay the bills in the Laeken complex, doesn't have children to support, etc.

Philippe is doing what he should IMO and it is very sad that his family is turning their backs on him, Mathilde and his children because of it.
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Old 12-17-2015, 02:31 AM
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I agree with *Mara* and tommy100.
Yes it is sad that no one else was present. We do not know the reason that no one was there but really watching this beautiful family do not care at all.
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Old 12-17-2015, 04:42 AM
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Here are some more pics of the Christmas concert:



** dpp: Belgian royal family christmas concert 2015 ** belga/dpa gallery ** belga ** gettyimages ** rtl.be video **
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Princess Astrid is sad because of the way the Royal Palace is treating his Father.
She was with her parents in Rome.
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Old 12-18-2015, 06:28 AM
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Princess Astrid is sad because of the way the Royal Palace is treating his Father.
She was with her parents in Rome.
Treating them like what? Not allowing them to do as they please when they please and then complain about money?

Sorry, but I can't be considerated with a couple that preferred to stay in holidays abroad instead of going to visit their son who was in intensive care, no matter how well "informed" they were at the time.
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Old 12-18-2015, 07:06 AM
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Princess Elisabeth is growing into a real lady and I can't get over just how cute Prince Gabriël is. The elder children are my favorites of the bunch. They radiate good behavior and class. Not that Prince Emmanuel and Princess Eléonore don't, but they appeal less to me.
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Princess Astrid is sad because of the way the Royal Palace is treating his Father.
She was with her parents in Rome.
The frictions in the family have been quite apparent for some time now. The Palace is right though in the sense that Philippe, Mathilde and their four children are the future of the Belgian monarchy, which, although not under immediate threat, is in a position that, because of the peculiarities of the country, will always be far from comfortable. It is reasonable that Albert and Paola, or Philippe's younger siblings should be sidelined.
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King Philip performed the most duties last year.

H.M.The King :189 official engagements & 162 Audiences
H.M.The Queen : 212
HI&RH Princess Astrid,Archduchesse of Austria-Este : 119
HRH Prince Laurent :72
H.M.Queen Paola :19
H.M.King Albert II :17

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Leidl,
You are not a Belgian Citizen.
You don't know the problems the former Monarchs have with the actual King's Staff .

I saw the former Monarchs last year. King Albert II cannot walk without hanging on his wife's arms.
Queen Paola was ill for weeks last year and the communication about that was bad.
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Leidl,
You are not a Belgian Citizen.
You don't know the problems the former Monarchs have with the actual King's Staff .

I saw the former Monarchs last year. King Albert II cannot walk without hanging on his wife's arms.
Queen Paola was ill for weeks last year and the communication about that was bad.
Of course they would have trouble with the current staff, after all they wanted to keep the same person in charge of their business even after the King dismissed him, they should have listened to him.

And why was the communication bad? Because Paola didn't want things to be known, same as what happened when Laurent was sick, they decided to release a press thing after the backslash from the public, otherwise they would have stayed away and quiet about their son in intensive care.

Albert is an old man, doesn't mean he can do whatever he pleases and complain about money he doesn't really need just to keep ruining his son's reign.

He like Paola have always been terribly selfish, always caring about themselves above everyone else, sadly it was one of the few things Laurent got from them.
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King Philip performed the most duties last year.

H.M.The King :189 official engagements & 162 Audiences
H.M.The Queen : 212
HI&RH Princess Astrid,Archduchesse of Austria-Este : 119
HRH Prince Laurent :72
H.M.Queen Paola :19
H.M.King Albert II :17

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Given the number of engagements above for a small country like Belgium, we must conclude is indeed a hard-working royal family !
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Old 01-06-2016, 07:48 AM
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Leidl,
You are not a Belgian Citizen.
You don't know the problems the former Monarchs have with the actual King's Staff .

I saw the former Monarchs last year. King Albert II cannot walk without hanging on his wife's arms.
Queen Paola was ill for weeks last year and the communication about that was bad.
Yes, both King Albert and Queen Paola look very frail. Maybe retiring from public duty is their own choice, and not something imposed by the current King's staff.
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Old 01-06-2016, 09:25 AM
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Of course , It was their own Choice !
It was not imposed by the new brand new staff.
King Albert II kept most of his late brother's King Baudouin staff.
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King Philip performed the most duties last year.

H.M.The King :189 official engagements & 162 Audiences
H.M.The Queen : 212
HI&RH Princess Astrid,Archduchesse of Austria-Este : 119
HRH Prince Laurent :72
H.M.Queen Paola :19
H.M.King Albert II :17

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Se-ven-ty-two "engagements" for Prince Laurent????

Note that one morning can have 10 audiences, or even more. I would count "From 10.00 o'clock until 12.00 0'clock the King will hold audiences" as one engagement and not as 10 separate items. But who am I.
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