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Old 07-26-2010, 04:51 AM
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I think it was Queen Fabiola personal desicion to leave Laken Palace after her husband's death. Since she was no longer the queen consort to the current king, she had to recude her apparences to not overshadow Queen Paola. But my question is... why Fabiola does not allow Paola to wear her tiaras? She doesn't wear them anymore.
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Old 07-26-2010, 05:40 AM
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One of Fabiola's tiara is the wedding gift from the Spanish government: not sure it would be correct to lend it and to borrow it.
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Old 07-26-2010, 07:08 AM
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But it's her present, why can't she let someone else wear? It belongs to Fabiola and she could let a homeless person wear it if she wanted.
I do understand what your saying that it was a gift and might have sentimental value, but the majority of tiaras in every royal families were once a gift to someone.
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Old 07-26-2010, 08:09 AM
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Queen Fabiola moved when she was ready to do, six years after King Baudouin's death.
It is only in Belgium that a sister in law takes the Queen's place. Having no children Fabiola remains Queen Fabiola .
During official events Queen Paola , the actual Queen is on the King's right side and Queen Fabiola on his left side.
Why I was disapointed is that Queen Fabiola has a great admiration and affection for King Albert who succeeded so well as King of the Belgians.
Normally it was Philippe the King after Baudouin. Unfortunaltely he died at 63 years old and Albert and Paola are our unexpected King and Queen.
The most important activity of Fabiola is the Queen Elisabeth's Music competition. During the first competition in 1994 , Fabiola received a standing ovation and she cried.
I never heard about an ACTUAL bad relationship between the 2 Queens. I agree they were before between Queen Fabiola and Paola Princess of Liege.
Let us hope King Albert II will have a long life.. If not we will have 3 Queens!
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Old 07-26-2010, 09:01 AM
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NO it was not Philippe turn after Baudouin, the constitution is very clear, it was Albert who had to become King... for Philippe becoming King immediately, Albert would have had to resign the function (I hope my English is not too bad here !)
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Old 08-14-2010, 08:13 AM
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I just found this picture.
It shows support and friendship... was in 1993.


http://www.corbisimages.com/Enlargem...&caller=search
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Old 08-14-2010, 08:21 AM
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All four people in that picture look incredible sleepy.
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Old 08-14-2010, 09:54 AM
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The photo appears to be unfortunate. The Belgian Royal family looked bored and tired.
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Old 08-14-2010, 11:09 AM
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This picture is taken 8 days after Baudouin’s unexpected and tragic death. It shows a heartbroken family watching Albert taking the oath.
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Old 08-14-2010, 11:22 AM
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IMO they don't look heartbroken but like Al_Bina said, really bored.
This was taken at the enthronement ceremony yes? How long is that?
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Old 08-14-2010, 11:36 AM
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All four people in that picture look incredible sleepy.
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The photo appears to be unfortunate. The Belgian Royal family looked bored and tired.
Pictures may be worth a thousand words but it helps to know the context before jumping to misplaced conclusions.

The photograph was taken on 9 August 2003 at the swearing into office of King Albert. It was nine days after the sudden and unexpected death of King Badouin and just two days after the late King's funeral. Understandably, the family aren't jumping for joy at Albert's good fortune, rather Queens Fabiola and Paola, the Duke of Brabant and Princess Astrid are emotionally drained and in deepest mourning for a beloved husband, brother-in-law, uncle and King.
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Old 08-14-2010, 11:46 AM
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IMO they don't look heartbroken but like Al_Bina said, really bored.
*Mara* has explained it to you Lumutqueen.
Rather than continuing to demonstrate great insensitivity at a photograph of a visibly distraught family in mourning, how about quitting before you dig yourself deeper.
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Thank you Warren. The photograph was so touching and all one has to do is read the caption as to the event.
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Exactly Katrinna, that was my point.
Just wanted to reveal a picture that showed support, even affection, between the two queens, in a phase of change in their lives. Between the joy of a new king and the sadness of losing another... as you say "so touching".
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Old 08-15-2010, 08:29 AM
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Before King Albert II swore somebody (I wount' tell is name) cried :" Vive la république".
Or it happened before when Baudouin as Prince Royal (not as King) startet to swore..It was pathetic .. he put his hand back with deep sadiness , he was only 20 years all.. He receided an ovation but it was a personal attack.
The man who cried "Vive la République " died the day afer in strange condtions.
It was therefore they looked hardbroken; particulary Queen Fabiola who kwew how her late husband suffered from this in his young days
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Pictures may be worth a thousand words but it helps to know the context before jumping to misplaced conclusions.

The photograph was taken on 9 August 2003 at the swearing into office of King Albert. It was nine days after the sudden and unexpected death of King Badouin and just two days after the late King's funeral. Understandably, the family aren't jumping for joy at Albert's good fortune, rather Queens Fabiola and Paola, the Duke of Brabant and Princess Astrid are emotionally drained and in deepest mourning for a beloved husband, brother-in-law, uncle and King.
Thank you Warren. Only two days previous the BRF had endured a very long, emotional and painfully draining State Funeral for the much loved King...so if they did look tired no one should be surprised.

Anyone can go into the "Baudouin and Fabiola" or "Royal Funerals" thread and see photos of the BRF at the airport receiving the late King's remains from Spain(they were literally all physically holding one another up!) and you can see photos of them inside the Cathedral during the Requiem Mass..they all had the same exhausted, drained look...especially Queen Fabiola.
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I would like to mention a TV programme broadcasted yesterday on Belgian tv and to be repeated tomorrow Friday on 3rd channel at 21.05hs local time. It deals mainly with King Baudouin , as part of the rememberance of the 20th anniversary of his death. It has also some connection with this thread. King Baudouin is probably quite correctly described as a fairly strong personality, quite respectful of many values about life, family etc, sharing those with his wife Fabiola.

It is probably quite correct to think that there have at least been ups and downs in the relationship between Fabiola and Paola. Fabiola is said to have had a strong influence on her husband about these values.
The couple crisis between Albert and Paola was quite badly perceived by Baudouin and Fabiola. I just want to stress that this crisis is NOT pure gossip. It was referred to by King Albert II himself in his Christmas speech of December 1999, time of the wedding between Philippe & Mathilde. He stressed how pleased he was that the crisis could be overcome. As you know a daughter, Delphine Boel, was born from his relationship with baroness so&so, sorry I don't remember her name, which lasted 18 years according to her recent statement (while she was supporting the recent claim of her daughter for official recognition). Delphine is 45 years and Laurent is 50.

the tv programme goes into an analysis on how the reconciliation was possible, it took place in the mid-80's. There are 2 versions about it. A soft one : it was the time of the wedding of Princess Astrid and there has been a natural positive influence. The 2nd, much harder, probably worked out between Baudouin and Fabiola, and mentioned in the TV programme, suggests that Baudouin used his influence, and included some threats about the conditions of Albert and Paola in the royal family. In my view difficult to imagine that this would not have made the relationship difficult between the two families.
There are several pictures which suggest that Baudouin & Fabiola took a strong involvement in the education and life of Philippe.
Other comments currently running suggest that indeed Philippe would have been strongly influenced by his uncle. Incidentally Baudouin was quite popular, particularly at the time of his death. This no longer seems really the case now, since the population got used to the relaxed style of AlbertII. The return to a closer style to Baudouin by King Philippe is therefore occasionally mentioned.
You might remember about the fact that Baudouin "escaped" to his duty of signing laws, after the adoption by Parliament, in the case of the "abortion law". That law was totally against his moral principles, and he asked his Prime Minister to work out a scheme, which made him unable to sign, a sort of temporary power vacancy. This is now mentioned again in comments and is criticized.

This is the way I perceive these issues from my own press reading or listening. As most Belgian citizens, I wish the best to King Philippe and his family, I feel they deserve it. I feel confident that he will be wise enough to take inspiration from both Baudouin and his father.
I would like to conclude by mentioning that I saw personally on a Saturday in an Italian restaurant in Brussels the whole Laurent family having lunch with the Delphine family, so a total of some 9 people including the kids. They seem to get on very well together, maybe as the "weaker" members of the royal family.
Incidentally difficult relationship between different royal family members IS NOT NEW in Belgium, that was also recently reminded.
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