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This was not a state funeral but a national funeral.
What is the difference between a state funeral and a national funeral? In my book the state is the nation and the nation is the state... By the way the funerals of Claus, Juliana and Bernhard were no "State Funerals" either because it was not organized by the state but by the royal family itself.

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After the somewhat "Taizé start" (the coffin on the ground, no candles) now it becomes a traditional Mass.
The coffin on the ground is a sign of humility.
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Prince Laurent and his family is not at the church of Laeken!
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The children won't be attending the Laeken ceremony?
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Old 12-12-2014, 06:40 AM
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The children won't be attending the Laeken ceremony?
apparently not. not even Astrid children are there...aren't they?
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Old 12-12-2014, 06:43 AM
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Astrid's children are at the ceremony in Laeken.
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Who are the speakers?
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The interior of Notre-Dame de Laeken is quite impressive,I often forget its a royal church.
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Old 12-12-2014, 06:46 AM
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Who are the speakers?
If I have correctly understood, they are two members of her staff, who were particularly close to her.
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Maybe Laurent and Claire went to Laeken to look after the younger children or to receive the (foreign) dignateries, who did not go to the church either but who will go to Laeken for the coffee table.
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What is the difference between a state funeral and a national funeral? In my book the state is the nation and the nation is the state... By the way the funerals of Claus, Juliana and Bernhard were no "State Funerals" either because it was not organized by the state but by the royal family itself.

'State' refers to a sovereign political entity. 'Nation' means a community of people with a common culture and history. A 'state' may include different nations, as is the case of Belgium, whose population is divided into the Flemish, the Wallons and other minorities, each of whom would qualify as a 'nation' in itself.
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Who are the speakers?
2 members of her staff.
It was absolutely beautifull and heartwarming what they said about their queen.
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2 members of her staff.
It was absolutely beautifull and heartwarming what they said about their queen.
If anyone cares to take the time to translate the staff tributes for English only speakers, I would be forever grateful. The anecdotes are my favorite.
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Astrid's children are at the ceremony in Laeken.
Yes I've spotted them shortly afterwards
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apparently not. not even Astrid children are there...aren't they?
Maybe the King and the Queen felt it would be too much for the children to bear. They are still quite young and very emotional.
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If I have correctly understood, they are two members of her staff, who were particularly close to her.
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2 members of her staff.
It was absolutely beautifull and heartwarming what they said about their queen.
Thank you! It certainly speaks well of Queen Fabiola as their employer.
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Belgium says farewell to its royal matriarch: Royals from across the world join mourners for state funeral of Queen Fabiola | Daily Mail Online
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I must say, there is a lot of beauty in the starkness of having the coffin on the floor instead of elevated.
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