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Old 12-09-2014, 03:41 PM
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Old 12-09-2014, 04:05 PM
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From Thierry Debels:

thierry debels ‏@thierryd 3h3 hours ago Brussels
gecontesteerde ex-koning Juan Carlos van Spanje zou begrafenis van landgenote @FabiolaKoningin vrijdag niet bijwonen... #wandelgang #FB

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ex-King Juan Carlos of Spain would funeral of compatriot @FabiolaKoningin friday not attend ... #Walkway #FB

I really thought Juan Carlos would find some reason to blow it off. I hope this is not true and I thoroughly admit that Debels is the LEAST reliable of sources, but I saw that and just had to pass it along.
Well, in all fairness to JC his health has not been great. Didn't he have two hip replacements in the past 3-4 years. He just looks more frail every time I see him recently. And that goes for ex-king Constantine of Greece too.

I would not be surprised if he does not attend, despite his close relationship with Fabiola and her late husband. Fabiola was among the handful of people outside his family who referred to JC as "Juanito".
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Old 12-09-2014, 04:14 PM
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I agree with you wholeheartedly. It really sort of chocked me to see how frail JC looked at Felipe's inauguration and I don't find it the least disrespectful if he doesn't attend Fabiola's funeral because I doubt that he would actually actively try to avoid it. I'm certain that should he cancel, it would be because of health issues.
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Old 12-09-2014, 04:39 PM
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Well, in all fairness to JC his health has not been great. Didn't he have two hip replacements in the past 3-4 years. He just looks more frail every time I see him recently. And that goes for ex-king Constantine of Greece too.

I would not be surprised if he does not attend, despite his close relationship with Fabiola and her late husband. Fabiola was among the handful of people outside his family who referred to JC as "Juanito".
I really didn't phrase my previous entry well. I totally agree, Moonmaiden23. Juan Carlos has been looking not so strong of late, and I know that whatever happens, Fabiola would be okay with the decision that is made.
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Old 12-09-2014, 04:39 PM
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On Thursday I may go to the Secretary Service of the Cathedral . They have a place for me inside the Cathedral for HM Queen Fabiola 's Funerals.
As I have to attend very early the Funerals, I booked one night in a 5 Star Hotel....the first time of my life!
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Old 12-09-2014, 04:46 PM
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On Thursday I may go to the Secretary Service of the Cathedral . They have a place for me inside the Cathedral for HM Queen Fabiola 's Funerals.
As I have to attend very early the Funerals, I booked one night in a 5 Star Hotel....near the Grand Place where we have our Christmas Market .
Maria Olivia though it will be a very solemn and sad occasion I'm so happy you have a place there at the Funeral Mass as we all know how much you adored H.M.Queen Fabiola.
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Old 12-09-2014, 05:00 PM
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I am rather surprised that there is no Belgian flag, or at least her personal standard. But perhaps QF wanted it plain and unadorned. And despite the news that she wanted an ugly coffin, that one appears rather elegant and tasteful.

But it's seems soo tiny...almost like that of a child.....
That's exactly what I thought, too, Moonie.

https://twitter.com/VvanBelle/status...137216/photo/1
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Old 12-09-2014, 05:09 PM
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On Thursday I may go to the Secretary Service of the Cathedral . They have a place for me inside the Cathedral for HM Queen Fabiola 's Funerals.
As I have to attend very early the Funerals, I booked one night in a 5 Star Hotel....the first time of my life!

What an honor maria-olivia! Please come back and tell us everything!
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Forgive me, my comment is not meant to give offense, but rather to express incredulity. The coffin is open and the queen does not seem to have hair and makeup done. Neither is her mouth closed.
Just my two cents.
My grandmother passed away two weeks ago and we went to see her for the last time the day before the funeral. Her hair were done and so was makeup. When we saw her for the last time, we at first almost didn't recognize her. She was pretty good-looking but she was not herself. We had seen her husband, my grandfather, a few hours after his passing away and although he was less good-looking, it was easier for us as we saw really him, not someone else. I would rather have seen my grandmother two hours after her death than a few days after. Seeing a corpse which didn't look at all like her and knowing it was her was a painful experience, more than seeing my grandfather dead just a few hours after his passing away.
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Old 12-09-2014, 05:23 PM
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Kjell Arne Totland has twittered that King Harald of Norway and his sister, Princess Astrid will attend the funeral:

https://twitter.com/TV2KjellArne/sta...06792462860288
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Old 12-09-2014, 05:29 PM
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On Thursday I may go to the Secretary Service of the Cathedral . They have a place for me inside the Cathedral for HM Queen Fabiola 's Funerals.
As I have to attend very early the Funerals, I booked one night in a 5 Star Hotel....the first time of my life!
My goodness, that will be some experience of a lifetime.
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Old 12-09-2014, 05:32 PM
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On Thursday I may go to the Secretary Service of the Cathedral . They have a place for me inside the Cathedral for HM Queen Fabiola 's Funerals.
As I have to attend very early the Funerals, I booked one night in a 5 Star Hotel....the first time of my life!
How fortunate that your request got accepted! It is in the spirit of Queen Fabiola that not only officials but also other Belgians would be able to attend. It is nice that the court has appreciated this too. Please let us know how it went.

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Considering the man has been downright nasty these last days, almost gloating over Fabiola's death, I take his remarks with a few pinches of salt.



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It is better to postpone possible criticism of the (non-) attendees until we actually get a confirmed guestlist.

For British attendances of royal events, there is this thread in the British forum: The Windsors and Europe
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Old 12-09-2014, 05:37 PM
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Beautiful article about King Baudouin being reunited with his Queen.
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Old 12-09-2014, 06:03 PM
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On Thursday I may go to the Secretary Service of the Cathedral . They have a place for me inside the Cathedral for HM Queen Fabiola 's Funerals.
As I have to attend very early the Funerals, I booked one night in a 5 Star Hotel....the first time of my life!
that's such a gesture of fabiola to include anyone who wished to attend in her funeral. may i ask how you requested a place in the service, maria olivia? it must have been very well organised of the palace to have received requests and sent out the invitations already! best of luck, it seems like quite an exciting experience.
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Old 12-09-2014, 06:42 PM
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Well , the Protocol Service wanted my name , surname and my Number of National Registration.


It is not an invitation which was sent to me. It is a document, I sent a mail to have it, which allows me to enter the Cathedral and I have to go Thursday at the Cathedral Secretary Service to have it...

Where will I sit , perhaps people will see better on TV !

But even where I will sit I will hear Cardinal Danneels Speech, the Music and it is my last respect for my late Queen . I also have to thank Her because she visited the place where my handicapped Son is living in 1993.
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Maria-olivia, I'm so happy that you are going to be able to attend the funeral mass of this beautiful soul that was Queen Fabiola. I am tending to believe that this is exactly what she expressed in her last wishes and to me, it makes the mass and celebration even more memorable to have among the people, those that truly felt a love for her.

It is my hope that you will carry with you to her celebration of life, all the warm thoughts and remembrances and condolences that have been expressed here in this thread.
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Well , the Protocol Service wanted my name , surname and my Number of National Registration.


It is not an invitation which was sent to me. It is a document, I sent a mail to have it, which allows me to enter the Cathedral and I have to go Thursday at the Cathedral Secretary Service to have it...

Where will I sit , perhaps people will see better on TV !

But even where I will sit I will hear Cardinal Danneels Speech, the Music and it is my last respect for my late Queen . I also have to thank Her because she visited the place where my handicapped Son is living in 1993.


Here is an homage I put together back for Fabiola's 86th birthday.

The many faces of Fabiola
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Well , the Protocol Service wanted my name , surname and my Number of National Registration.


It is not an invitation which was sent to me. It is a document, I sent a mail to have it, which allows me to enter the Cathedral and I have to go Thursday at the Cathedral Secretary Service to have it...

Where will I sit , perhaps people will see better on TV !

But even where I will sit I will hear Cardinal Danneels Speech, the Music and it is my last respect for my late Queen . I also have to thank Her because she visited the place where my handicapped Son is living in 1993.
What a special experience this will be for you Maria-Olivia, even though it will surely be a sad one. I do hope you will be able to share some of your thoughts of the day as it would be interesting to hear from someone who will actually have been there.

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I found a brief article from the Japanese news channel - NHK - concerning the Empress's attendance at Queen Fabiola's funeral, which I thought was interesting: -

Empress to attend funeral of Belgium's queen - News - NHK WORLD - English
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Just my two cents.
My grandmother passed away two weeks ago and we went to see her for the last time the day before the funeral. Her hair were done and so was makeup. When we saw her for the last time, we at first almost didn't recognize her. She was pretty good-looking but she was not herself. We had seen her husband, my grandfather, a few hours after his passing away and although he was less good-looking, it was easier for us as we saw really him, not someone else. I would rather have seen my grandmother two hours after her death than a few days after. Seeing a corpse which didn't look at all like her and knowing it was her was a painful experience, more than seeing my grandfather dead just a few hours after his passing away.
I think this can safely be attributed to the embalming and funeral 'preparation' process. Especially if it's to be an open coffin, there are a lot of cosmetic 'procedures' done to the deceased.
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My mother, died a month ago, She was almost 100. When we saw her in the hospital they had combed her hair, which was still beautiful, and as she never really wore make up, she looking peaceful and asleep. She had few wrinkles and never a facelift. She was never an old lady. She dressed fantastically, never used a walker, a cane or a wheelchair. She climbed up and down the full set of stairs to our upper level every day, several times a day. Death takes away what is what makes you look human away. Yes, morticians tricks can sometimes make some look wonderful. We were blessed, as she was cremated we didn't need any of that embellishment.
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