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Old 02-16-2019, 10:48 AM
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Wouldn't that generally be the rule? To me the weird part is the mixing of style and the way they are addressed, especially when not using a noble title at all. But this explanation makes sense, the style refers to the title that they decide to hide but still hold.
Exactly; by the conventional rules of most of the royal and noble families of Europe, a married woman is addressed with her husband's title combined with the highest ranked style she holds (which may be the one attached to her husband's title or the one attached to her hidden birth title), but continues to hold both her birth and married titles even when not using them.

However, within the trends towards gender equality and marriage to commoners, it has become less rare that a married woman decides to be addressed with her birth title or style. For example, in 1991, the Belgian royal court ceased to address Princess Astrid as "Her Imperial and Royal Highness" and "Archduchess Astrid of Austria-Este" and began to address her as "Her Royal Highness" and "Princess Astrid of Belgium" (likewise with her children).
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Her Royal Highness Princess Astrid, Princess of Belgium, was born in Brussels on 5 June 1962. She is the second child of King Albert II and Queen Paola.

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The other members of the Royal Family are also attended by a staff for the functions they exercise in the name of the King, and fall under the various Households and Services: The Household of His Majesty King Albert, the Service of Her Royal Highness Princess Astrid and the Service of His Royal Highness Prince Laurent.

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Old 02-16-2019, 12:40 PM
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Also her sister-in-law Archduchess Yolande of Austria was in attendance.
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I was very pleasantly surprised to see Laurent as the Belgian representative considering that he rarely attends events within his own immediate family! It was also nice to see that Jean could make it. Despite being less mobile than he was, he seemed well.
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The Prince de Ligne (Michel) wore the Order of the Golden Fleece. His Father was also Knight of the Order. Only 3 belgian Noble Families are.
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Old 02-17-2019, 05:35 AM
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Great Royal/Noble Dignity Funerals of a beloved Mother , Grandmother ,Sister and more.
Prince Laurent is Prince Lamoral's friend.
They did well !
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Old 02-17-2019, 07:45 AM
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An interested full report for the funeral from the Royalement Blog:

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The Prince de Ligne (Michel) wore the Order of the Golden Fleece. His Father was also Knight of the Order. Only 3 belgian Noble Families are.
Was the late Philippe de Lannoy a Knight of the Order of the Golden Fleece?
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Was the late Philippe de Lannoy a Knight of the Order of the Golden Fleece?
No, sixteen De Lannoys have been Knight in the Order of the Golden Fleece, but not the late Philippe de Lannoy. The last De Lannoy to have been ennobled into this Order was in 1744, when the Southern Netherlands were under Habsburg rule
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Old 02-17-2019, 10:14 AM
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An interested full report for the funeral from the Royalement Blog:

https://t.co/TIMaxwGHwf
Thanks!

I noticed that Henri and Gabriella attended the funeral of their great aunt together. Probably the first pictures of the engaged couple in 15 months?
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The Prince de Ligne (Michel) wore the Order of the Golden Fleece. His Father was also Knight of the Order. Only 3 belgian Noble Families are.

That would be the Austrian (Habsburg) Golden Fleece of course, which some people see as the only legitimate successor to the medieval Burgundian order of the Golden Fleece.
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Yes the Austrian Catholic Order. The King of the Belgians had the Austrian Order.
When King Juan Carlos came on Official Visit to Belgium he gave King Albert II the Spanish Order of the Golden Fleece. He is the only one who has the 2 Orders .
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Interesting to see that Gabriella Habsburg-Lothringen is still together with the father of her child, Henri Bourbon.
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Yes the Austrian Catholic Order. The King of the Belgians had the Austrian Order.
When King Juan Carlos came on Official Visit to Belgium he gave King Albert II the Spanish Order of the Golden Fleece. He is the only one who has the 2 Orders .
Had forgotten that the Austrian Order can only be bestowed on Roman Catholics unlike the Spanish one.
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Had forgotten that the Austrian Order can only be bestowed on Roman Catholics unlike the Spanish one.
And, if I am not mistaken, it is only bestowed on males also.

The Spanish order was once also strictly for Catholics. I believe the Duke of Wellington was the first Protestant to receive the Spanish Golden Fleece.
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Yes the Austrian Catholic Order. The King of the Belgians had the Austrian Order.
When King Juan Carlos came on Official Visit to Belgium he gave King Albert II the Spanish Order of the Golden Fleece. He is the only one who has the 2 Orders .

Was King Philippe given the austrian Golden Fleece since his accession?
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Was King Philippe given the austrian Golden Fleece since his accession?
Wasn't he bestowed the Order back in 2008?

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The Duke of Bavaria (1960)
Count Johann Larisch of Moennich (1960)
Archduke Karl of Austria (1961) – Sovereign (Grand Master) of the Order since 2000
Archduke Andreas Salvator of Austria, Prince of Tuscany
Archduke Carl Salvator of Austria, Prince of Tuscany
Prince Lorenz of Belgium, Archduke of Austria-Este
Archduke Michael of Austria
Archduke Michael Salvator of Austria, Prince of Tuscany
Archduke Georg of Austria
Archduke Carl Christian of Austria
King Albert II of Belgium
Grand Duke Jean of Luxembourg
Prince Albrecht of Hohenberg
The Duke of Württemberg
The Prince of Lobkowicz
Count Johann of Hoyos-Sprinzenstein
The Prince of Liechtenstein
Prince Clemens of Altenburg
The Duke of Braganza
Count Josef Hubert of Neipperg]
The Duke of Hohenberg
The Prince of Schwarzenberg (1991)
Archduke Joseph of Austria (born 1960)
The Prince of Löwenstein-Wertheim-Rosenberg
Count Gottfried of Czernin of Chudenitz
Mariano Hugo, Prince of Windisch-Graetz
Baron Johann Friedrich of Solemacher-Antweiler
Baron Nicolas Adamovich de Csepin
Bernard Guerrier de Dumast (fr) (2001)
The Prince of Panagyurishte (2002)
The King of the Belgians (2008)
The Prince of Ligne (2011)
Prince Charles-Louis de Merode (2011)
Archduke Ferdinand Zvonimir of Austria
The Margrave of Meissen (2012)
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Wasn't he bestowed the Order back in 2008?

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The Duke of Bavaria (1960)
Count Johann Larisch of Moennich (1960)
Archduke Karl of Austria (1961) – Sovereign (Grand Master) of the Order since 2000
Archduke Andreas Salvator of Austria, Prince of Tuscany
Archduke Carl Salvator of Austria, Prince of Tuscany
Prince Lorenz of Belgium, Archduke of Austria-Este
Archduke Michael of Austria
Archduke Michael Salvator of Austria, Prince of Tuscany
Archduke Georg of Austria
Archduke Carl Christian of Austria
King Albert II of Belgium
Grand Duke Jean of Luxembourg
Prince Albrecht of Hohenberg
The Duke of Württemberg
The Prince of Lobkowicz
Count Johann of Hoyos-Sprinzenstein
The Prince of Liechtenstein
Prince Clemens of Altenburg
The Duke of Braganza
Count Josef Hubert of Neipperg]
The Duke of Hohenberg
The Prince of Schwarzenberg (1991)
Archduke Joseph of Austria (born 1960)
The Prince of Löwenstein-Wertheim-Rosenberg
Count Gottfried of Czernin of Chudenitz
Mariano Hugo, Prince of Windisch-Graetz
Baron Johann Friedrich of Solemacher-Antweiler
Baron Nicolas Adamovich de Csepin
Bernard Guerrier de Dumast (fr) (2001)
The Prince of Panagyurishte (2002)
The King of the Belgians (2008)
The Prince of Ligne (2011)
Prince Charles-Louis de Merode (2011)
Archduke Ferdinand Zvonimir of Austria
The Margrave of Meissen (2012)
Interesting that the Graf Czernin von und zu Chudentiz has been ennobled into the Order of the Golden Fleece. It seems that on his death bed Kaiser Karl demanded his former Minister of Foreign Affairs to be stripped of the Golden Fleece because of erratic and traitorous behaviour in the Sixtus Affair.

Interesting that this blame of treason did not block the Count Czernin von und zu Chudenitz to receive another Golden Fleece.
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The memorial mass for Princess Alix in Luxembourg at the Église Saint Michel is scheduled for March 5 at 6pm

Communiqué du Maréchalat de la Cour - Cour Grand-Ducale de Luxembourg - Mars 2019
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A few photos from Wort of the memorial mass for Princess Alix on March 5th.

Gedenkmesse für Prinzessin Alix - Luxemburger Wort
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Here are two more photos of yesterday's mass:


** monarchie.lu: Service religieux en mémoire de la Princesse Alix de Ligne, Princesse de Luxembourg **
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