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Old 09-11-2018, 05:50 PM
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Save from what? Apparently he already has to use his savings to make ends meet. There is a myth that royals have golden apples falling from a tree. In the 1950's and 1960's the reigning (!) Queen Juliana of the Netherlands was in so narrow shoes financially with the official dotation that for years and years she had to dig the holes from her own personal wealth. With other words: the budget for the office of state was not sufficient so she had to pay from her private savings to fulfill a public office...

923.000 pre-taxation is really not that much. It will result in 550.000 netto. Imagine you have a cook, a gardener, a secretary, a butler and a chauffeur. Let us say these 5 cost 40.000 a year (employer costs). Most likely they have a few more staff. This is already 200.000 eating away. Let us say the energy and utility bills for the Château and Parc du Belvédère, the maintenance, the cars, the fuel, the insurance, the local taxes cost another 200.000. We are talking about someone who was heir for 40 years and King for 20 years. In comparison: Queen Fabiola got 1,5 million a year (free of taxes) . Reportedly 70% of this was used for the costs of staffing. The rest for living at the Château de Stuyvenberg.

So the single lady got a lot more (not taxed) than the couple Albert & Paola (taxed, because of changed legislation). And this while Prime Minister Di Rupo promised a settlement comparable to Fabiola (the PM's own words, in a rare break of confidentiality, on RTBf radio).
Ironically if Albert and Paola had maintained a better relationship with Philippe, and with the public, maybe they wouldn't be in this 'dire' financial situation (the one where they do no public work but still get paid by the state enough to be on permanent holiday).

I find it noticeable how different the relationships Albert & Paola on one hand and Fabiola on the other had with the wider family post 'kingship".
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Old 09-11-2018, 07:53 PM
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Excellent point, very well made. Albert and Paola with their self absorbed and less than stellar parenting of their three children did not exactly lay the ground work for filial loyalty and devotion in later life.
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Old 09-12-2018, 03:36 AM
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Excellent point, very well made. Albert and Paola with their self absorbed and less than stellar parenting of their three children did not exactly lay the ground work for filial loyalty and devotion in later life.
There are enough examples of stellar parenting which still results in disfunctional relationships, drug addictions, criminal offences or neglect. So the connection between parenting and agreed financial arrangements around the Abdication which were not honoured by one party has little to do with all of this.

When the Dutch Government would not honour the arrangements made with Princess Beatrix, which is uncomparably so much more lavish as for Albert & Paola, I doubt we would see her smiling and waving around after more than 60 years of public service.
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Old 09-12-2018, 05:04 AM
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This seems to be a Albert and Paola thread.

King Albert I and King Albert II are both unexpected Kings. The first one because his beloved Brother Prince Baudouin passed away when he was 21 years old. The second when his brother King Baudouin passed away when he was 63 years old. (King Albert I asked Leopold and Asrid to give to their first born Son the surname of Baudouin)

King Albert II has been during 20 years an excellent King of the Belgians. He managed well the many political situations etc..

Now we say in Belgium , il a raté sa sortie . Critics started after his abdication
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Old 09-25-2018, 04:19 AM
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The newspaper Het Laatste Nieuws reports about claims in the French-speaking media (Paris Match etc) why Princess Claire and her children were absent from the Mass of Remembrance.

The French-speaking media report that Prince Laurent apparently is so angry with the politicians and the media about the cut in his allowance, but especially with the annual report he has to make for the Auditory Court. The Prince seems to feel under control and is so upset about this that he demonstratively claims he can not afford clothing and coiffure anymore for the Princess.

The Princess seems to have withdrawn from public and committed herself totally to her teenage children Princess Louise (14) and the twins Prince Aymeric and Prince Nicholas (12). Princess Claire however finds comfort with King Albert and Queen Paola (also absent at the Remembrance Mass). It seems the former King and Queen see Claire's endless patience with Laurent and her unconditional commitment to her children as exceptional virtues. Apparently this endeared Claire into their hearts. This summer Princess Claire, Princess Louise, Prince Aymeric and Prince Nicholas -but not Prince Laurent- were guests at the yacht of King Albert and Queen Paola, sailing around Corsica.


https://www.hln.be/showbizz/royalty/...rent~a702903c/
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Old 09-25-2018, 05:44 AM
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I believe this is old news I believe, I have read it a few times in other papers when she was absent. I don't remember if Laurent ever commented on it (the article below claims that he did), but it was considered the reason for a prolongued absense in 2014: https://nieuws.vtm.be/binnenland/792...ch-stilzwijgen


Laurent's parents must 'thank God on their bare knees' that their son has such a stable and strong wife who is able to put up with his whims and moods. I think it is great that despite the trouble between Laurent and his parents this does not deprive the grandchildren from having a normal relationship with them.
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Old 09-25-2018, 06:13 AM
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The whole family was seen at Mechelen.
The article of Paris Match was stupid ! it had the front page to be sold.
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Old 09-25-2018, 06:29 AM
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That was not an official event AFAIK. Princess Claire seemed to have worn normal clothes, so no expensive outfit and no expensive hairdresser were needed .
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Old 09-25-2018, 07:28 AM
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Good to see that King Albert and Queen Paola are not at all isolated from the family. I bet Claire, Louise, Aymeric and Nicholas have had an amazing and joyful time with grandpa and grandma, sailing around beautiful Corsica.
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Old 09-25-2018, 08:43 AM
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This were their holidays. Now they are students at the Lycée Français.
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