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Old 10-20-2003, 03:48 PM
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I wonder though what her country men thing of her?
If Maria Teresa was wise, she would never show her face in public again until she loses 50#.
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Old 10-20-2003, 04:02 PM
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Maria Teresa was wise, she would never show her face in public again until she loses 50#.
Wow, that's a very bold and insensitive statement to make, especially when you don’t know why the Grand Duchess has gained weight. The reason for her weight gain could be due to a myriad of reasons:

• This is a woman with five children; you honestly can’t expect her to remain as small as she was before she had her children.

• Women (for the most part gain weight) when they get older.

• Maybe she’s going through menopause (that causes weight gain)

• Maybe she likes herself at this weight and feels healthier


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Old 10-20-2003, 06:24 PM
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wow...I guess beauty is only skin deep??
:(

She looks to have gained weight and lost weight to me.
Some people are naturally thin and some people have to work very hard at it.
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Old 10-20-2003, 06:40 PM
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Wow, that's a very bold and insensitive statement to make, especially when you don’t know why the Grand Duchess has gained weight. The reason for her weight gain could be due to a myriad of reasons:
I agree with you totally. I was being facetious considering the previous post.
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Old 10-20-2003, 07:41 PM
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Let's move off this topic of Maria Teresa's weight and focus on the many good things she does. The Grand Duchess of Luxembourg has worked hard and accomplished too much for us to be discussing something as trivial as her weight.
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Old 10-20-2003, 08:04 PM
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Aren't people free to discuss what they want here & to state their opinions, providing it is on topic? I know that I certainly wasn't trying to be insensitive. I was just stating a fact based on observation in response to a previous posters inquiry about her alleged drinking.

Indeed, there may be several reasons for her weight gain. I don't think it's the kids though. She was slim after giving birth to the last one.

I think it is wrong to censor members, but that's just my view.
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Old 10-20-2003, 08:13 PM
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Aren't people free to discuss what they want here & to state their opinions, providing it is on topic? I know that I certainly wasn't trying to be insensitive. I was just stating a fact based on observation in response to a previous posters inquiry about her alleged drinking.

I think it is wrong to censor members, but that's just my view.
Sean and everybody else: I am not trying to censor what your beliefs or discussion about this situation are, and we always encourage discussion here at LTR, but when the discussion strays into areas which may be sensitive to other members and in some cases, when members are being rude or malicious about the topic, then we administrators and moderators must step in.
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Old 10-20-2003, 08:19 PM
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Sean and everybody else: I am not trying to censor what your beliefs or discussion about this situation are, and we always encourage discussion here at LTR, but when the discussion strays into areas which may be sensitive to other members and in some cases, when members are being rude or malicious about the topic, then we administrators and moderators must step in.
Again, I wasn't insensitive, rude or malicious, and frankly I am offended that you would even suggest so. I was simply responding to a post. Why not chastise the individual who inquired about her alleged drinking then?
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Old 10-21-2003, 12:59 AM
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Sure.

I've already discussed the matter with Alexandria via IM. She's told me that it wasn't my comments that she was referring to.

Nevertheless, I still feel that people should be entitled to talk about what they want, providing that it is on topic and no one is being vulgar (or attacking other posters). After all, people are entitled to have divergent opinions. We can not all be expected to fawn over every single royal. they are public figures & thus subject to public scrutiny.

This is fun board and I enjoy looking at the pictures here. I also enjoy contributing once in a while, although, to be honest, I'm more of a serious historian. If people are going to dictate what can and can not be posted about royals, then I will no longer contribute here.
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Old 10-21-2003, 05:08 AM
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Gee, I've read this with interest. I think we can sometimes forget that these people are human. Just because she has a title and money etc, doesn't mean that she is happy. I have the feeling that she may not be, and her weight is an outward sign of this... Just my opinion.
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Old 10-21-2003, 04:22 PM
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I know I should forgo the weigh issue, Alexandria, but I just saw her picture in the return dinner event, and I have to get it out of my chest. It's quite alarming when the picture shows more than thousand words. I have compassion for her, I understand the aloneness marrying into a royal family and the struggle to fit in. Not to mention the different culture she is from. But after more than 20 years, a smart gal would find a way to adjust or adapt which ever way fits for her. Hers is not the only unpleasant mother and daughter in law conflict. She shouold focus on her own family, that including taking good care of herself. I'm sure she could find a confidential psychologist help should she need one in regards to the alcohol issue if that is true. The awareness must be there when you are around so many skinny royals all the time. So please do something to manage the issues, maybe that will help control the weight. I feel so sorry to see a great lady going downhill. I can't get over that she was so cute, young, and lovely, that is no more.
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Old 10-21-2003, 07:57 PM
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I think Maria is pretty. However, I really don't like her dresses. They're like...imitation flowery flimsy 1950's style muumuus made for people with a greater girth than her. *Shudder*, those dresses make her look even fatter than she is.
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Old 10-22-2003, 02:19 AM
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By the way, anyone see the video of return banquet of her dressing yellow orangish fluffy gown, that just doesn't suit her. But the alarming part is her walk, it starts to be limpy and unbalanced, kind of one foot is heavier than the other. I think the weigh starts to cause trouble for her. Or maybe the high heells are not going to balance the weigh. This is horrible. Do something, Duchess.
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Old 10-22-2003, 03:07 AM
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Hmm, Lori, if you are really so concerned about her, why don't you write to her?
I'm being serious. Maybe she will appreciate a *supportive* (not critical) letter from from a concerned 'fan'?
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Old 10-30-2003, 09:12 PM
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Yes it´s obvious that MT has gained a lot in recent years, and probably her doctors are advising her to loose a little, but I don´t think that she suffers from serious adiposity, and I can´t also imagine that her balance Problem ( if she has one...I´vent seen the video) is caused through her weight!
We are always talking about "shrinking" female Royals (Q. Rania, Charlotte Casiraghi, Mary Donaldsson, cp Victoria, cp Maxima...) and now there´s a woman who is chubbier and we are still complaining and assuming that she has a mental poblem! Not everybody fits in the perfect BMI-pattern, and as long as it doesn´t get out of the hand, it ´s IMO a good thing!
Another change in the family attracted more attention to me...their daughter Alexandra looked in the pictures, in which she was about 9 years old really shy and fragile, she never smiled/laughed, but in the pictures from last summer she looks more self-confident.
Nice to notice that prince Guillaume has at least a "pseudo"- Royal girlfriend. The niece of Queen Sonja is of course not a Royal in it´s usual definition, but she´s IMO more a Royal, than those middle class boyfriends /girlfriends of current young Royals! I´m not against weddings between Royals and commoners, but to watch eventually a marriage between two Royals would be really exciting ( If I would have said that about 100 years ago, people would have laughed at me )
I didn´t knew much about the Royals from Luxemburg before, but they seem to be a really likeable family (with a great family life)..I´m going to rank them higher in my Royal-houses-ranking-list than before!
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Old 12-13-2003, 12:21 PM
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Thanks for those fantastic photos of the Grand Duke and Duchess in Denmark and her recent visit to Thailand. Can we try not to keep mentioning anything about her weight please? Her weight has nothing to do with who she is. The Grand Duchess is a wonderful woman, if not the most regal and beatutiful of all the Royal wemon by far, so please keep the talks of her weight at a minimum if not at all!!!!! It is about time these stopped.

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Old 01-17-2004, 03:03 PM
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Visit of the Grand Duchess of Luxemburg in Laos

The night market; Every night, the streets of Luang Prabang turn into a huge night market. HRH the Grand Duchess of Luxemburg spent her last evening at the night market where she bought fabrics from Laos craftsmanship work.

HRH the Grand Duchess of Luxemburg with the minister of Luxemburg of Cooperation and Humanitarian Deeds, mister Charles Goerens, inaugurated hospital Maria Teresa dead in the center of Laos. This first visit in the «Kingdom of the million elephants» allowed HRH to see how well the partnership in medical support, between Luxemburg and Laos ran. In exclusivity for Saola Agency, HRH the Grand-Duchess Maria Teresa of Luxemburg has invited us to share with her trip through Laos.

The Baci; During the welcoming ceremony also called "Baci", celebrating HRH the Grand Duchess of Luxemburg's trip, the governor of the province of Luang Prabang following the tradition tied to the wrist of his guest small white ties to bring her good fortune.

During the welcoming ceremony also called "Baci", celebrating HRH the Grand Duchess of Luxemburg's trip, the governor of the province of Luang Prabang following the tradition tied to the wrist of his guest small white ties to bring her good fortune

They put these slightly out of order on the site:

On the last day of her trip in Laos, HRH the Grand Duchess of Luxemburg wished to go shopping in the small streets of Luang Prabang to discover the small shops of the craftsmen of Laos. The weavers and the silversmiths - jewel and cups - got all her attention.

Looking at some jewels.

That looks warm.

Cute.

Here's a weaver:

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Old 01-17-2004, 03:41 PM
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Luang Prabang : Royal City; Inside the courtyard of the Royal Museum, the pagoda is Haw Pha Bang. It is a religious building that has been richly decorated and which counts among the 32 other old temples registered. HRH the Grand Duchess of Luxemburg visited the former capital of Laos, Luang Prabang,with its 63 000 inhabitants. She met young bonze monks; she visited the former Royal Palace that has been transformed into a museum. In the complex of Vat Xieng Thong, HRH the Grand Duchess of Luxemburg has seen some of the most beautiful pagodas of the kingdom, and discovered "The Tree of Life (on red background), small chapels and reliquaries with Buddha statues and a funerary carriage set near by the East entrance door of Vat Xieng Thong.

Luang Prabang : Royal City

Luang Prabang : Royal City

Luang Prabang : Royal City

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HRH the Grand Duchess of Luxemburg arriving at Luang Prabang, the former capital of Laos that has been registered on UNESCO heritage list.

HRH the Grand Duchess of Luxemburg travelled around in Laos by helicopter, with health minister of Laos, his Excellency sir Ponemek Dalaroy, and Mister Charles Gorens, minister of cooperation from Luxemburg.

HRH the Grand Duchess of Luxemburg travelled around in Laos by helicopter, with health minister of Laos, his Excellency sir Ponemek Dalaroy, and Mister Charles Gorens, minister of cooperation from Luxemburg

The very good relationships between the Laotian hosts and the Luxemburg delegation showed all through the various meetings organised along the way. Here HRH the Grand Duchess of Luxemburg with his Excellency sir Ponemek Dalaroy, Health Minister of Laos.
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Old 01-17-2004, 03:52 PM
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In the capital of the kingdom of the million elephants, Vientiane, HRH the Grand Duchess of Luxemburg was greeted by Prime minister from Laos, Bunhang Vorachit. During the meeting, they both spoke of the ranking of Laos at the 135th (over 175) on the list of the Human Development.

Nice sandals.

Red Carpet, In the capital of the kingdom of the million elephants, Vientiane, HRH the Grand Duchess of Luxemburg was greeted by Prime minister from Laos, Bunhang Vorachit.

With mister Charles Goerens, Minister of Cooperation and Humanitarian Deeds from Luxemburg, under the lead of His Excellency Sir Ponemek Dalaroy, Health Minister of Laos, HRH the Grand Duchess of Luxemburg inaugurated hospital "Grande Duchesse Maria Teresa de Luxembourg". This hospital was built and equipped via the agency of development Lux-Développement, through the minister of cooperation of the Grand Dukedom in the district of Viengkham, north of the capital. Being a leading project in the health department in Laos, this hospital is set to provide health services to 300 000 people . HRH the Grand Duchess of Luxemburg cut the ribbon, with mister Charles Goerens and the minister of public health from Laos, Ponemek Dalaroy.

Interesting earrings

How cute is that little girl!

Very cute.

Mother and child.

Visit to the hospital

Greeting the nurses who deserve many compliments.

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Old 01-17-2004, 04:05 PM
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Ribbon-cutting ceremony

The unveiling:

. With mister Charles Goerens, Minister of Cooperation and Humanitarian Deeds from Luxemburg, under the lead of His Excellency Sir Ponemek Dalaroy, Health Minister of Laos, HRH the Grand Duchess of Luxemburg inaugurated hospital "Grande Duchesse Maria Teresa de Luxembourg".

Tribes of the North, Laos is on the way to Ho Chi Min trail, and so underwent some major bombing between 1969 and 1974. Today in the North, several tribes are still victims of mines and bombs from that time. Visiting a village in the North of Laos, HRH the Grand Duchess of Luxemburg met young girls working on Laotian traditional costumes.

Five kilometers from the capital Vientiane, HRH the Grand Duchess of Luxemburg visiting a family that has been granted medical support for their daughter.

Five kilometers from the capital Vientiane, HRH the Grand Duchess of Luxemburgis visiting a family that has been granted medical support for their daughter.

Near the palace Vat Xieng Thong, HRH the Grand Duchess of Luxemburg with young Bonze monks

HRH the Grand Duchess of Luxemburg at the wharf after her day cruise on the Norther Lakes of Laos.

During the inauguration of the hospital "Grande Duchesse Maria Teresa de Luxembourg", in the area of Viengkham, north of Laotian capital, Vientiane, the Grand Duchess of Luxemburg wished to insist on the importance of the cooperation between the two countries Laos and Luxemburg, in terms of medical support.

On the cruise ship

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