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Old 12-27-2018, 05:06 AM
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Expressen's royal expert Karin Lennmor about Madeleine's happiness now when she is in Sweden.

On every picture we have seen on the princess in the last weeks you can see how it shines from her, how happy our princess is over to celebrate the holidays at home together with family and friends.
Madeleine has told how good she and the family have it in Florida, that the children have come to terms and that life is stabilizing.
But when it comes to big weekends, then Madeleine wants to be close to the family, siblings and Leonore, Nicolas and Adrienne's little cousins. Madeleine feels safe and happy with the old family traditions.
Madeleine and her family came to Sweden a week before Christmas Eve. So nice for a large family to just move in at the Royal Mews among their own stuff, clothes and toys, instead of having to stay at a hotel or at Silvia and the king at Drottningholm.
For more than four years, Madeleine and the family have lived in a large floor at the Royal Mews. Despite all moving between New York, London and Miami, this is a safe and solid point for Madeleine. The apartment has 5 rooms and kitchen and before they moved in, it was completely renovated for SEK 6.8 million. New doors were inserted, the floors were polished and the rumor says there are 21 wardrobes!
Here Madeleine thrives, it is near the water and Djurgĺrden, and near her and Chris's favorite restaurants: Teatergrillen, Riche and Strandvägen 1.
Madeleine, Chris and the children will stay in Sweden for several weeks. And Madeleine wants to take advantage of the time, especially with the family. It is important to let her children keep up with the cousins. And of course Madeleine also wants to meet her friends.
Sometimes Madeleine and the family go skiing on the Christmas and New Year holidays, but that probably won't be this year. Adrienne is too small, family and friends attract more.
Despite the lovely, sunny and easy-going life in Miami ... the heart is probably still here at home in Sweden.
Prinsessan Madeleines och Chris O'Neils julfirande i Sverige
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Old 12-28-2018, 07:11 AM
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Stoppa pressarna reveals that Madeleine was denied a visa to the United States.
Madeleine and Chris are soon ready to return to the US - but the trip home has suffered from complications.
Stoppa pressarna can now reveal that Princess Madeleine was denied a visa to the United States. When the trip home was planned, it was clear that she would not get into the US - even though she is married to an American citizen.
The visa inconvenience became quickly an embarrassing diplomatic affair and the royal house was forced to take help from the Ministry for Foreign Affairs to sort it out.
- The court contacted the Ministry for Foreign Affairs, which had to step in. One might think that it is a little embarrassing when a Swedish princess happens to have such a mishap, our informant tells us.
According to the information given to Stoppa pressarna, the problem with the visa is now over.
Prinsessan Madeleine nekad visum till USA _ Stoppa Pressarna
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Old 12-28-2018, 07:18 AM
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What? Didn't she sort out her visa before she moved to the States?

Normally, she should have had a spousal (H4) visa before moving and no issues would arise at this time unless she changed her visa to a different type while in the States. In that case she would have to go for another visa interview when first leaving the Ststes after obtaining the new visa (if she was indeed trying to change her visa -so she might work- that could be a reason not to leave the US in the last few months). Nonetheless, to be denied a visa, she must have messed up her interview completely and most likely applied for an inappropriate visa.

Of course, things might be slightly different when having a diplomatic passport but the above would be the most likely case for a 'normal citizen'.
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Old 12-28-2018, 07:26 AM
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Stoppa pressarna reveals that Madeleine was denied a visa to the United States.
Madeleine and Chris are soon ready to return to the US - but the trip home has suffered from complications.
Stoppa pressarna can now reveal that Princess Madeleine was denied a visa to the United States. When the trip home was planned, it was clear that she would not get into the US - even though she is married to an American citizen.
The visa inconvenience became quickly an embarrassing diplomatic affair and the royal house was forced to take help from the Ministry for Foreign Affairs to sort it out.
- The court contacted the Ministry for Foreign Affairs, which had to step in. One might think that it is a little embarrassing when a Swedish princess happens to have such a mishap, our informant tells us.
According to the information given to Stoppa pressarna, the problem with the visa is now over.
Prinsessan Madeleine nekad visum till USA _ Stoppa Pressarna
It is extremely odd that she has been denied a visa to enter the US. I wonder what she did to be denied.

It will be also embarrassing if it transpires that she got special treatment to sort out her visa problem because of her royal status.
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Old 12-28-2018, 07:39 AM
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It is extremely odd that she has been denied a visa to enter the US. I wonder what she did to be denied.

It will be also embarrassing if it transpires that she got special treatment to sort out her visa problem because of her royal status.
Given that she has been in Sweden for less than 2 weeks... If this all happened since she went back to Sweden she most likely had her interview last week. That implies that she did get special treatment because normally you would have to apply again and go through the full process again and that takes weeks if not months, not days (including weekends and official holidays).
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Old 12-28-2018, 08:19 AM
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Or it could be some officious buffoon at the immigration office had a quota of white people that needed to be denied visas to show they were not being discriminatory under our current administration’s immigration rules and Madeleine was chosen at random for some minor reason.

It would be embarrassing to that person in the White House that a princess was denied a visa if that happened.
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Old 12-28-2018, 10:00 AM
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I don't believe political at all, just paperwork that needed to be done and was overlooked. Happens to the best of us.
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Old 12-28-2018, 11:57 AM
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Given that she has been in Sweden for less than 2 weeks... If this all happened since she went back to Sweden she most likely had her interview last week. That implies that she did get special treatment because normally you would have to apply again and go through the full process again and that takes weeks if not months, not days (including weekends and official holidays).
Your previous post actually raised some interesting questions. Foreign citizens who hold diplomatic or other kind of official passports AFAIK normally have a so-called ‘A’ visa, which is associated with a particular “tour of duty”, I.e. an official mission on behalf of his/her government.

Princess Madeleine obviously is not living in the US as a diplomatic representative of Sweden, nor is she on any official mission on behalf of the Swedish government. Could she have a “non-diplomatic” visa ( for example, the “ spouse visa” you mentioned) on her Swedish diplomatic passport, or did she have to get another regular Swedish passport for that ?

Also, assuming Madeleine is going to settle in the US for good, will she consider becoming a US citizen in the future ? How would that affect her constitutional position in Sweden ? I recall that , when a title for Chris was being discussed, the Court Marshal.mentioned that members of the Royal House must be Swedish citizens. Does Swedish law allow dual citizenship or would Madeleine lose her Swedish citizenship if she is naturalized in the US ?
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Old 12-28-2018, 12:10 PM
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Stoppa Pressarna is a super tabloid on the level of the National Enquirer, aka they just make things up.

I doubt there is much, if any truth to this story at all.
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Old 12-28-2018, 12:12 PM
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Also, assuming Madeleine is going to settle in the US for good, will she consider becoming a US citizen in the future ? How would that affect her constitutional position in Sweden ? I recall that , when a title for Chris was being discussed, the Court Marshal.mentioned that members of the Royal House must be Swedish citizens. Does Swedish law allow dual citizenship or would Madeleine lose her Swedish citizenship if she is naturalized in the US ?
Swedish (and US) law does allow for dual citizenship.
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Old 12-29-2018, 08:27 AM
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Stoppa Pressarna is a super tabloid on the level of the National Enquirer, aka they just make things up.

I doubt there is much, if any truth to this story at all.

Then we will find out soon enough, because this story involves the court intervening with a ministry what makes this whole issue more than just Madeleine's private affair.

The court usually comments on the most absurd things, therefore I believe that if we don't hear anything from the court, the story is true.
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Old 12-29-2018, 11:49 AM
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Stoppa Pressarna is a super tabloid on the level of the National Enquirer, aka they just make things up.

I doubt there is much, if any truth to this story at all.
Agree with you, Katiebird Stoppa pressarna make things up and create scandals out of nothing. They can take something totally innocent as e.g passport expiration approching or some paperwork that needs to be filled...and show its as some big and tragic event. After all -- tabloids must sell scandals, normality won't sell
....and just because the court won't comment on some gossip...it does not make these true stories!!
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Old 12-29-2018, 12:01 PM
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Your previous post actually raised some interesting questions. Foreign citizens who hold diplomatic or other kind of official passports AFAIK normally have a so-called ‘A’ visa, which is associated with a particular “tour of duty”, I.e. an official mission on behalf of his/her government.

Princess Madeleine obviously is not living in the US as a diplomatic representative of Sweden, nor is she on any official mission on behalf of the Swedish government. Could she have a “non-diplomatic” visa ( for example, the “ spouse visa” you mentioned) on her Swedish diplomatic passport, or did she have to get another regular Swedish passport for that ?

Also, assuming Madeleine is going to settle in the US for good, will she consider becoming a US citizen in the future ? How would that affect her constitutional position in Sweden ? I recall that , when a title for Chris was being discussed, the Court Marshal.mentioned that members of the Royal House must be Swedish citizens. Does Swedish law allow dual citizenship or would Madeleine lose her Swedish citizenship if she is naturalized in the US ?
I went to learn more with an internet search and we have our very own passport thread here at TRF: Diplomatic passports of the royals.
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Old 12-29-2018, 12:41 PM
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Agree with you, Katiebird Stoppa pressarna make things up and create scandals out of nothing. They can take something totally innocent as e.g passport expiration approching or some paperwork that needs to be filled...and show its as some big and tragic event. After all -- tabloids must sell scandals, normality won't sell
....and just because the court won't comment on some gossip...it does not make these true stories!!
In addition to their own news, Stoppa pressarna quotes often also articles from Svensk Damtidning, and Expressen and Aftonbladet. Not just only the articles in the worst gossip magazines. Stoppa pressarna's publisher is Daniel Nyhlén, who has worked in among other things in Svensk Damtidning and Aftonbladet and been a program host on TV4.
During the years at Aftonbladet, Daniel Nyhlén worked as court and celebrity reporter, mainly followed the royal family, politicians and international celebrities.
The successes led to Nyhlén becoming one of Sweden's most famous and best-paid journalists.
Daniel Nyhlén was in Aller Media/Svensk Damtidning's team during Victoria's wedding and he has written a book "Prinsessan Madeleine". During the past 15 years, Daniel Nyhlén has been interviewed as royal expert on issues concerning the royal family in SVT, TV4 and Sveriges Radio.

Daniel Nyhlén is a person who has very good contacts on issues regarding the members of the royal family. The other one who has good contacts is Johan T Lindwall, the editor-in-chief of Svensk Damtidning.
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Old 12-29-2018, 02:49 PM
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In addition to their own news, Stoppa pressarna quotes often also articles from Svensk Damtidning, and Expressen and Aftonbladet. Not just only the articles in the worst gossip magazines. Stoppa pressarna's publisher is Daniel Nyhlén, who has worked in among other things in Svensk Damtidning and Aftonbladet and been a program host on TV4.
During the years at Aftonbladet, Daniel Nyhlén worked as court and celebrity reporter, mainly followed the royal family, politicians and international celebrities.
The successes led to Nyhlén becoming one of Sweden's most famous and best-paid journalists.
Daniel Nyhlén was in Aller Media/Svensk Damtidning's team during Victoria's wedding and he has written a book "Prinsessan Madeleine". During the past 15 years, Daniel Nyhlén has been interviewed as royal expert on issues concerning the royal family in SVT, TV4 and Sveriges Radio.

Daniel Nyhlén is a person who has very good contacts on issues regarding the members of the royal family. The other one who has good contacts is Johan T Lindwall, the editor-in-chief of Svensk Damtidning.
Aftonbladet and Expressen are gossip news as well, they are comparable to the Daily Mail in the UK. Sensationalist and making a mountain out of a molehill.

Svensk Dam was at one point fairly reputable but that was many years ago and they are now a flashy picture gossip rag as well.

The royal reporters in Sweden are no better at reporting only the full truth than their counterparts in the UK. Their job is to sell clicks and prints, and sensationalism sells.
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Old 12-29-2018, 03:17 PM
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Aftonbladet and Expressen are gossip news as well, they are comparable to the Daily Mail in the UK. Sensationalist and making a mountain out of a molehill.

Svensk Dam was at one point fairly reputable but that was many years ago and they are now a flashy picture gossip rag as well.

The royal reporters in Sweden are no better at reporting only the full truth than their counterparts in the UK. Their job is to sell clicks and prints, and sensationalism sells.
Jennie Alexandersson at Aftonbladet, Roger Ljunggren & Sara Ericsson at Kungliga Magasinet are well-researched and not prone to sensationalism although they can be a bit to deferential at times. Roger in particular is very well connected with both the Swedish royals and foreign royals. He was the one who planned the wedding of Prince Leka of Albania a few years ago.
Unfortunately Elias Giertz isn't the royal reporter for Expressen anymore since he did a great job and in general stuck to facts.
I do agree about Daniel Nylén, Johan T Lindvall and also Karin Lenmor being clickbait hunters and the latter two has dragged Svensk Damtidning down to their level although in general it's still a reliable magazine.
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Old 12-29-2018, 06:56 PM
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Could the problem, if it existed, be nothing more than paperwork becoming snarled in the partial shutdown of the US government?
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Could the problem, if it existed, be nothing more than paperwork becoming snarled in the partial shutdown of the US government?
Certainly. It's also possible (assuming there was an issue) that if the ministry had to be involved simply because the princess has a diplomatic passport - that may very well be routine and not actually a problem at all.
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Old 12-29-2018, 11:15 PM
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As someone who used to work for Immigration (not in Sweden, though), don't put too much weight on "Ministers intervening".

Ministers, MP, government officials "intervened" all the time for everyday people at my immigration office! It's actually one of the things that they're supposed to do for you, their constituents.

We'd be working on a file, and then get a call from Minister X because Joe Public came to their office and their visa hadn't been issued, even though the due date had passed.

Because it's now a Government Official asking us to look into something, we'd go and find Joe Public's file, see what was holding it up, and either finalize it or send the Minister and Joe Public a message detailing exactly why it wasn't ready.

A lot of the times, it was just that we were behind schedule and Joe Public was somewhere at the bottom of the To Be Done stack. The Minister intervening just made us move them up (but everything had to be okay with their file. Even if the Minister called, if things were wrong, Joe Public wasn't getting their visa.)

Again, just normal, ordinary people do this.
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If this photo was indeed taken today- I think it is safe say that Madeleine and the family are not in Florida.
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