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Old 04-20-2010, 04:46 PM
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Was she having a phone call while driving?
Yes Sweden is one of the last contries in Europe where it´s still legal to talk in your phone while your driving and don´t require that you use a headset
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Old 04-20-2010, 04:59 PM
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Do any of these reports say when this one-night stand is alleged to have occurred? One of the articles says that JOnas has been living a "double life" (if I read it correctly). Have there been other allegations of infidelity on his part?
The report talks about his "double life" as at the day devoted princessboyfriend and lawyer and at night partyanimal - but they don´t mention anything about any affairs or other womens
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Old 04-20-2010, 05:50 PM
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If he's a party animal then why was this not discovered earlier? Within days the media can find out who made what outfit, but if someone known publicly is out partying on a weekly bases no one notices?
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Old 04-20-2010, 05:58 PM
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If he's a party animal then why was this not discovered earlier? Within days the media can find out who made what outfit, but if someone known publicly is out partying on a weekly bases no one notices?
A good point!

When Madeleine first began dating Jonas, there wasn't really any bad gossip or information about him; he seemed like an upstanding guy. And now there's all sorts of things being said about him, and it all came about in such a short amount of time. It will be interesting to see how all of this plays out.
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Old 04-20-2010, 09:24 PM
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This brings back memories of Mary and Frederik's wedding. Joachim and Alexandra had already decided to separate, but stayed together for appearances until after the wedding.
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Old 04-20-2010, 10:43 PM
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This will they or won't day is maddening.........Is any other Royal House as inept at PR as this one!?! They just don't know how to handle negative press coverage do they?

If Jonas cheated IN Sweden (or in Scandinavia) for that matter he should be fired- he is too stupid to be a lawyer He is engaged to a PRINCESS who is stalked by the paparazzi and he though it would never come out?
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Old 04-21-2010, 12:15 AM
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I agree. If the story is true, Jonas WAS really stupid. How could he DO this? For years we have seen the fair haired boy hanging out with the royal family. He was thought to be the King's favorite. People considered him a really fine partner for Madeleine. He comes from a wealthy and social family. He was dating one of the most beautiful women in Sweden. He was dating a PRINCESS. He was hired by a prestigious law firm (probably based on the above) and his future was assured. Although the press was ever present when he was with his Princess, they prevailed as the "golden couple" and looked forward to representing the Swedish Royal Family as a Duke and Dutchess. While Daniel Westling slowly walked the path to becoming accepted by both the public and the Swedish Royal Family, Jonas was stamped "Approved" almost immediately. If he did, indeed, wager all of the above for a one night stand with a stunning Norwegian, he really IS STUPID. If I were him, I would plead temporary insanity. There is, however, an unanswered question...how long has he been doing this? In all the years he has been fair haired boy, is this the only one?
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Old 04-21-2010, 12:57 AM
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Jonas works at Vinge. Here is his page at the law firm.

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What is M & LL lawyer? I'm not familiar with the term.
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Old 04-21-2010, 02:54 AM
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I think that the least said (by the palace and by Madeleine and Jonas) about these stories the better things will be. If they intend to continue their relationship and get married, then making as little fuss and comment about the stories as possible is the best way to handle it. Any comment, denial or confirmation of infidelity will give bate to the media and leave more questions unanswered than the original "did he have an affair". I hope that any problem between them is resolved and they are grown up enough to handle the situation positively.
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Old 04-21-2010, 06:22 AM
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This will they or won't day is maddening.........Is any other Royal House as inept at PR as this one!?! They just don't know how to handle negative press coverage do they?

If Jonas cheated IN Sweden (or in Scandinavia) for that matter he should be fired- he is too stupid to be a lawyer He is engaged to a PRINCESS who is stalked by the paparazzi and he though it would never come out?
I think all royal houses have the same policy towards the gossip press, which is that they do not reply to anything, unless it is terribly outrageous. We have seen many stories about cheating royals in the gossip press over the years, and almost every time each and every court replied: no comment. I don't see why the Swedish court would do anything different this time.

Note that nothing has come out yet, there is one girl who claims she was intimate with Jonas Bergstrom She probably made money with this story so there is enough room for questions.
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Old 04-21-2010, 07:42 AM
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The Royal Court has now officially announced that M & J are still a couple and that they should be left alone by the press.

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Old 04-21-2010, 07:57 AM
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She probably made money with this story so there is enough room for questions.
So did the mistresses of Tiger. This doesn´t make him less a cheater.
Norway is a small (in population) country. It would take much to make a story up and to be cover girl on its biggest gossip magazine. Too much, if you ask me.
The question is rather, how often he was cheating and how M&J´s relationship was in early spring 2009.
Johan T. Lindwall did say several times, that their relationship was practically over in spring 09.
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Old 04-21-2010, 08:11 AM
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Swedish newspapers are full of reports today. It is said that Jonas' affair with the Norwegian girl took place in April 2009, that Madeleine found out but still accepted his proposal, because they were determined to stay together.

Apparently Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet has received lots and lots of tips about Jonas' partying from people during the last few months, but they have chosen not to publish out of respect for Madeleine.
Jenny Alexandersson: Ska de satsa på sin relation eller gå isär? | Jenny Alexandersson | Victoria gifter sig | Nyheter | Aftonbladet

I actually believe them, since our newspapers are fairly humane compared to the British ones for example. We have not had any big scandals in our royal family, so the media are not used to handling rumours about royals or nearly-royals cheating.

Of course, it is impossible to know anything for sure.
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Old 04-21-2010, 11:22 AM
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It now seems that Madeline somehow found out that he cheated and he proposed in a desperate attempt to keep the relationship- and something has happened now to derail it again. Maybe he had trouble keeping it in his pants even after the engagement?
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Old 04-21-2010, 11:39 AM
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If it is true that Jonas has had some kind of an affair then I would seriously question his judgement and maturity (and morals notwithstanding). The risk of being found out is highly likely for most ordinary folk who are having abit on the side, let alone someone who's been dating a royal princess...for eight years!
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Swedish newspapers are full of reports today. It is said that Jonas' affair with the Norwegian girl took place in April 2009, that Madeleine found out but still accepted his proposal, because they were determined to stay together.

Apparently Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet has received lots and lots of tips about Jonas' partying from people during the last few months, but they have chosen not to publish out of respect for Madeleine.
Jenny Alexandersson: Ska de satsa på sin relation eller gå isär? | Jenny Alexandersson | Victoria gifter sig | Nyheter | Aftonbladet

I actually believe them, since our newspapers are fairly humane compared to the British ones for example. We have not had any big scandals in our royal family, so the media are not used to handling rumours about royals or nearly-royals cheating.

Of course, it is impossible to know anything for sure.
THis makes the most sense - then they do not have to break up if no infidelity happened.and the palace is confirming their togetherness..I hope they live happily ever after
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Old 04-21-2010, 12:44 PM
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I believe the palace confirmed their together so the media will get off their back. I almost fully believe now that Jonas cheated on Madeleine. Nina Eldh did say something like they need to work through this like a family. If nothing happened, then why do they have to work through it?!

The Norwegian girl, whose said to have an affair with Jonas, said she was happy when Queen Silvia said the wedding was postponed. She also said she's sad for Madeleine because she has a fiance who cheats on her. Wow. If Jonas did this, then either he has a problem with unfaithfulness or he never really loved Madeleine. The sad thing is when you are a royal, celebrity or even rich, you never know who loves you for you.

I feel sorry for Madeleine.
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What is M & LL lawyer? I'm not familiar with the term.
Lawyers usually have a title after their name. LL&M (LLM) means Master of the Letters of Law. Jonas deals with documentation and negotiation of transactions, etc. It's basically an advanced degree after successfully completing the prescribed course in the study of law. Hope this helps.
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Old 04-21-2010, 02:35 PM
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The difference between other royal house having to deal with rumors about one partner cheated is that those couple were already married, while in this case they aren't. A marriage and an engagement is different, its not to late to break off an engagement. And regardless the fact that others have cheated doesn't make the cheating any better. And the fact that they chose no to publicize the fact that Jonas has been partying wasn't out of respect of the couple but because they have him painted as the goldened boy. He's often credited for having saved and reformed Madeleine from her partying ways, and he couldn't have done that if he was the party animal.
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If the palace says they're still together, then we should take that as the final word for now. Whatever transpired in their relationship to date, Madeleine made some kind of peace with it, otherwise they would have split up and we'd have heard about that. I don't think she should have since once a cheater, always a cheater.....but apparently she can live with what he may or may not have done.
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