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Old 04-25-2010, 01:05 AM
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apparently Queen Silvia had a long serious talk with her daughter.
It seems her brother and Victoria also talked to her,that the one who didn't know anything untill it was all done and over with was HM The King.
Sorry, but this made me smile. Isn't that how it is in so many families - Dad is the LAST person to know ANYTHING?

I'm really sorry for Madeleine because this has to be so traumatic - it would be terrible if she were just a normal girl but it's even worse because the whole country's watched it - but at least it came out before the wedding and she didn't marry this loser.
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Old 04-25-2010, 01:55 AM
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Sorry, but this made me smile. Isn't that how it is in so many families - Dad is the LAST person to know ANYTHING?

I'm really sorry for Madeleine because this has to be so traumatic - it would be terrible if she were just a normal girl but it's even worse because the whole country's watched it - but at least it came out before the wedding and she didn't marry this loser.
Yes, I agree. Dad is always the last one you want to talk with, but the first one you want to make be proud of.

Madeleine is so chrming and so young, that wouldn't be too late to leave this jerk.
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Old 04-25-2010, 02:38 AM
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Aftonbladet writes that the couple had problems last fall: Madeleine heard that Jonas was partying wildly at a place called V, a lyxlounge where only the truly privileged access. She confronted him, but he denied again. Aftonbladet has contacted with a couple of women depicted. They have met Jonas, but say there wasn´t much more than that.
- I met Jonas at a club in London a few years ago, says one.
- Possibly I have been in the same party, says the other.
Jonas was jealous of Madeleine´s trips to New York and that she was getting attention elsewhere.
- It was a little revenge, said one of Madeleine's friends.
When the Nobel Banquet approached Madeleine was forced to come home to Jonas. The couple had a frosty relationship but they came together. Madeleine was beautiful, but stiff. She barely talked with Jonas during the evening.
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Old 04-25-2010, 03:33 AM
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It was not "an alleged" incident.There were several "asides" by Jonas and the one making the biggest headlines with the norwegian who** telling all for money....was even before the engagement.Jonas "promissed" to never do it again.....

He fooled the Princess and played with her feelings more then once until apparently Queen Silvia had a long serious talk with her daughter.
It seems her brother and Victoria also talked to her,that the one who didn't know anything untill it was all done and over with was HM The King.

Poor poor dearest Madde,I really feel sorry for her.There is this drop dead gorgious youngest daughter of the King,and this upstart who played tricks on her time and time again.He might as well emigrate now.

This norwegian vulgarity of a creature claming she didn't know who he was?Bull.Cashing in for 12.500 was enough to revive her memory.
They're both trash,Jonas with the pretty face and that creature from norge.

so, does this mean that madeleine got engaged to someone she knew that cheated on her previously?

i don't think we can be harsh on the girls jonas was seeing. they may not know who he was or even if he had a wife or girlfriend at all. unless they themselves were cheating, the only one accountable is jonas.

as i said previously, it must be hard on madeleine. it was an 8 years relationship, nearly a third of her life. she must have placed such trust in jonas to wait to marry him for so long, only to just see it vanish so quickly after the king allows their marriage. it must be depressing, frustrating for her. i think she will take some time to start seeing someone again.

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Jonas the well educated, quasi sophisticated male really is not an idiot lacking common sense. He is a common scab. He should seriously be thinking about migrating far away -- South America might be far enough away from Sweden -- for about 2 years.
as i said before, it's amazing how misleading first impressions can be.
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so, does this mean that madeleine got engaged to someone she knew that cheated on her previously?
I've read somewhere in one of these threads, that she knew about him cheating on her before they got engaged. But accepting the proposal as they were going to work on their relationship.
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Old 04-25-2010, 03:55 AM
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finally, a picture of the tora, the girl who was reportedly with jonas
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She's blonde, a party girl, athletic, and by the last picture has a loud voice.
She's nothing compared to Madeleine. But men always want, what they can't have.
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Old 04-25-2010, 04:35 AM
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What a horrible teeth she has...Anyway, you are so right lumutqueen, they always want something they "can't" have
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If they can't have them, then why do they end up getting them? Musn't be much of challenge.

That whole 'they always want what they cant have' should really be 'those they know they shouldn't have, they get'.

What they (those who cheat) don't possess is a moral centre.
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I actually made the initial comment about Madeline and the British princes, and I personally don't feel that it was offensive. Its not as if Jonas died, and I was suggesting that the British Princes (or anyone else for that matter) step over the body to date Madeline.
Yes, I don't understand the touchiness.

There is no need to form a kumbaya circle around Madeleine. She isn't reading this, nobody died, this isn't happening to you and you don't even know the girl.

Also, I find it funny that nobody has any problem with suggestions that Jonas should be mutilated or calling that Norwegian girl a prostitute, but imply that Madeleine could find love again soon and you're 'tacky' and 'insensitive'. My...
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Not to defend Jonas (he was acting immature and careless. Period), but if Madeleine doesn´t broaden her horizon and does further refuse to see, that "Royalty" isn´t just fun and advantages, this will happen to her again. Mark my words.
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My ex-boyfriend cheated on me, I broke our relationship off and he could not figure out why! Men do the dumbest things, not to say that women can't of course.
Better that Princess Madeleine and Jonas split now rather than get married and the marriage fall apart.
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I agree with katelinn- Madeleine will be happy for her sister on her big day, and she'll probably be thinking she's glad to be rid of Jonas before they got married and an even bigger disaster occurred. Hold your head high, Maddie, and wait for a real man to come along!
I agree if she had not gotten rid of Jonas before the Victoria's wedding then she would have been miserable all throughout Victoria's wedding. Now she can enjoy Victoria and Daniel's wedding.
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Ufff, I am somehow relieved, that she did it now.
Yes, the upcoming weeks & months may be a hard time for Madeleine (maybe also in the second, when her sister is making her vows), but now she is free to get a "better man" -- the one, she deserves. And she for sure does not deserve a man, who already cheated her several times prior to the wedding.... it only could have been worse after.
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In the first picture she reminds me a lot on Chelsy Davy. After all she's blonde and tanned like Madeleine...
But if they really had an affair it's unfair to blame the girl - mainly if she didn't know who he was - it's Jonas' 'fault'... JMO.
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even if she (Tora) did know- it's still more Jonas' fault than hers! He chose to go with her! that was his decision, and maybe she thought "on his head, so be it! he is cheating, I'm not!" Shes not responsible for his actions, even if they do include her, he did it with his own free will! Yes, she shouldn't have done it because he was cheating, it was a wrong thing to do. But its still more his fault.
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If Madeline knew about the cheating and decided at that moment to forgive and forget, you can't blame her. I know many a woman who thinks she can forget such an indiscretion because he loves only her and more importantly, they (the woman) think they can change him.

If he cheats once chances are he will do it again. It is much better that she found this out before marriage.
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Onece a cheater always a cheater...i had the same experians with my ex boyfriend..he was 32 and the girl was 17 so in theory he coud be her farther if it was.
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if he thought he was clever, now hope he can realize how NOT clever he is, he thoguht he would a "duque", social, level money and a prety wife and princess , well he can kiss goodbye to all of that , he probably is an arrogant,, i am so glad they finish, she will get over and eventually hope she found somebody who really loves her, I think if I was her I would change m y look, and try to meet somebody as a communer, that way I would know they love me for me and not for my title and money! and I think it would be fun too to pretend that!
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That sounds lika a romantic novel
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