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Old 04-21-2010, 03:36 PM
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I think it's noteworthy that absolutely no-one has stepped forward with a denial of the story about the affair.

And also that the Palace statement, which I suppose used very carefully chosen wording, said that "Princess Madeleine and Jonas Bergström are still a couple", but not "Princess Madeleine and Jonas Bergström remain engaged to be married at one point in early 2011."
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Old 04-21-2010, 04:23 PM
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Thanks rop81, I didn't know!
If she would have been in Italy, she would have a lot of troubles, both for using the phone and also for having the dog sat on the front seat.
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Old 04-21-2010, 05:36 PM
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Do you think Jonas will attend the wedding of Vctoria?
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Old 04-21-2010, 07:24 PM
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Do you think Jonas will attend the wedding of Vctoria?

If the Palace is saying they are still a couple, I don't see why he wouldn't, lest more rumors start popping up.
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Old 04-21-2010, 11:02 PM
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No body seems to be denying this affair- least of all Jonas. And apparently Madeline knew about it before she accepted his proposal. So what has happened now, months after she knew about this and the engagement? It seems (per Madeline's current events thread) that she has her own thing on the side too. So, whats the problem with the relationship now??
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Old 04-21-2010, 11:22 PM
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I'm going to believe the Royal House until an actual formal announcement of a break up between Madeleine and Jonas is issued by it. We're learning all of this through the media and I don't trust the media anywhere. I also think it's pretty poor taste to bring this up, true or not, when the country and Royal Family are preparing to celebrate Victoria's and Daniel's wedding. I also feel bad for Madeleine and Jonas as this was a private crisis in their relationship and it's being blown out for all the public to read. It's an issue that only the two of them can or cannot work out. This publicity is only putting additional strain on the families and especially Victoria and she doesn't need it.
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Old 04-22-2010, 01:55 AM
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It is not bad taste, it is a right-duty of journalists to say what they know. Actually it seems that they are not even publishing everything they know about Jonas (or that they have waited to give the news until Jonas behavior became too bad) as a form of respect to Madeleine and the Royal family. And that's also bad because if Madeleine knew before how Jonas was she could be free and happy at Victoria's wedding!
It is sad that as a princess you always risk people to date you just because of your popularity, but that's why for centuries royals married royals. Contemporary royals don't want to do that anymore? They end up with those social climbers!
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Old 04-22-2010, 03:25 AM
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[QUOTE=CrownPrincess5;1071763]I believe the palace confirmed their together so the media will get off their back. I almost fully believe now that Jonas cheated on Madeleine. Nina Eldh did say something like they need to work through this like a family. If nothing happened, then why do they have to work through it?!

The Norwegian girl, whose said to have an affair with Jonas, said she was happy when Queen Silvia said the wedding was postponed. She also said she's sad for Madeleine because she has a fiance who cheats on her. Wow. If Jonas did this, then either he has a problem with unfaithfulness or he never really loved Madeleine. The sad thing is when you are a royal, celebrity or even rich, you never know who loves you for you.

I feel sorry for Madeleine. [/QUOTE

If the Norwegian girl had been so sad for Madeleine, she wouldn´t have had a fling with her fiancee. I have to laugh always when I see the lovers in newspapers expressing their regrets... They just want to get into spotlight. It is very dangerous for famous men, because there are always women around them eager to make themselves visible through the men and don´t hesitate to sell their stories to tabloid.
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Old 04-22-2010, 04:53 AM
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Princess Mary said in an interview just prior to or after her wedding ( cannot recall exactly when ) something to the tune of if a royal has to constantly defend themselves in the press to the public they will have to do so everyday because of all the things that get written about them. Perhaps this is the case with Madeleine and Jonas hence no one has denied or confirmed these rumours. I don't know much about the Swedish Royals other than what I read on this board and others but if the King is supposed to be someone strict as has been written, he would have suggested to the couple to put an end to the relationship so that it does not steal the thunder of Victoria's wedding. Then again he could have learnt from cousin Daisy and said to them to show an united front until after the wedding and then call it quits. I am one of those who will give the couple the benefit of the doubt that they are still engaged and will wait until an official announcement comes from the palace.
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Old 04-22-2010, 05:20 AM
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I feel bad for Madeleine if Jonas did indeed cheat.
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Old 04-22-2010, 05:31 AM
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If the Norwegian girl had been so sad for Madeleine, she wouldn´t have had a fling with her fiancee.
Maybe she really did not know who he was? That is what she said in the paper, and I think it could be true. At least I wouldn't recognize him if he came across me somewhere, even though I've seen him in pictures.
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Old 04-22-2010, 07:09 AM
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I still hope this is just rumours though 'trouble in paradise' seems serious this time.
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Old 04-22-2010, 07:19 AM
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they seem to do Couples Therapy they have been seen outside a office for Couples Therapy in stockholm
madeleine is leavning for US on saturday.
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Old 04-22-2010, 08:50 AM
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I wonder what Kungen thinks, since Jonas was reported as being his ~favorite.
Well, you know it has been said that the King also has had his flings... So I don't think this will affect his opinions too much, really!
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Old 04-22-2010, 09:06 AM
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If Madeleine was to attend to Victoria's wedding on her own, nobody would pay attention to the young couple...everybody commenting on Madeleine....
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Old 04-22-2010, 09:11 AM
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I cannot understand why the couple have let these break-up gossips go so far when it was easy to ruin them by simply appearing together going to the movies, to the theater and so on....
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Old 04-22-2010, 09:52 AM
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Then again he could have learnt from cousin Daisy and said to them to show an united front until after the wedding and then call it quits.
I think this is entirely possible, but I don't think it's going to work nearly as well here. The Joachim and Alexandra thing worked because no one thought they'd be getting divorced - people here were completely shocked, so no one was thinking about it at the wedding. However, everyone there are problems with Madeleine and Jonas now and it will take some of the attention off Victoria on her special day. We'll all be trying to read the body language between M and J with the same fervor we'll be discussing V's dress.
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Old 04-22-2010, 09:58 AM
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Either they do something together as a sign that the rumours aren't true as you said it, rominet09, or they announce that they broke up. No matter what they'll do, they have to do it soon. It would be mean to "spoil" Victoria's day because everybody would talk about Madeleine and Jonas if nothing official is said before the wedding.
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Old 04-22-2010, 11:09 AM
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Very well said, Rominet & rsfc149.....

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Old 04-22-2010, 01:52 PM
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If Madeleine was to attend to Victoria's wedding on her own, nobody would pay attention to the young couple...everybody commenting on Madeleine....
I think that if Madeleine will come to the wedding with Jonas, everyone will comment it... It would be better for the coming wedding, if Madeleine and Jonas would break up now.
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