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Old 12-02-2012, 12:22 PM
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Once again:
The Royal Court stated months ago that Princess Madeleine does not receive any state money from The King apart from reimbursed expenses for appearances on behalf of the Crown.
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She will not be the first Swedish princess to marry and live abroad with her husband. Chris will also not be the first husband to leave royal obligations up to his wife, only accompanying her on the most important family and state occassions. Since she is only paid for her official engagements I cannot see why this should present any problems for the Swedish people now or in the future.
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Old 12-02-2012, 03:23 PM
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I dont think the Swedish people will warm to Chris, and this picture is only the last straw (other reasons being the way he comes across, doesnt want the swedish citizenship, is likely not to work for the crown, will continue to live in the US with Madeleine).

I think this will continue to put a strain on the relationship especially for Madeleine since she is who she is, a swedish princess, who wants to be liked or loved or at least respected. It will put a gap between her and the country, possibly between her and her family because it only adds up to the topic not working for Sweden but receiving money from the King.
Most Swedes are mature enough in their thinking to be happy for Princess Madeleine to have found love and a life away from the snarky swedish press. Swedes also appreciates hardworking professionals that make something out of their lives so no need to worry about whether Chris will be accepted or not. There are many very wealthy Swedes that live lives similar to what Chris and Madeleine are and will be living so no surprises. People with money generally do not live like the middleclass.
Madeleine has her own money as well so no need to live of dad's. And if he is managing the family wealth that is also quite normal. Madeleine would not have to worry about money even if she had not met Chris.
There are enought royals in Sweden, (remember; we are the size of California with the population of Los Angeles county) so no need to have one more around. Prince Daniel is doing a fabulous job as is CP
Victoria and P Carl Philip and of course our King and Queen duo. Princess Christina is still active as well.

Madeleine is Princess and will remain a Princess. She is also a Swede and will remain a Swede. Whether her husband is a Swedish citizen or not is for most Swedes totally irrelevant.
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Old 12-02-2012, 03:34 PM
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It may become relevant, if he were to get his wife's ducal title, a la Jonas was supposed to.
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Old 12-02-2012, 03:53 PM
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I'm not surprised at his behavior. I never liked the looks of him, sorry to judge a book by it's cover but he just "looks" loutish to me, now he has confirmed it.
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Old 12-02-2012, 04:05 PM
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... if he doesn't want to become a Swede, I would be very surprised if he will use or adopt her ducal titel...
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Old 12-02-2012, 04:31 PM
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In the end regrettable, but not worse than the fight of CPhil in the South of France last summer...

"A reporter even claimed that the king is furious and that the engagement could be called off again. "
Another paps story?!! How could anyone know about that??? microphones, cleaning lady gossip??? I am not full of admiration for him, but sure he did not shout that out of the window. I hate that sort of journalism which invents if nothing substantial is available.
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It may become relevant, if he were to get his wife's ducal title, a la Jonas was supposed to.
Still not relevant.
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:16 AM
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That Chris O'Neill showed the finger to the press seems to only be an issue outside Sweden, I haven't seen any mentioning of it in any Swedish newspapers, maybe the photo will show up in one of the gossip mags that write about royals, but it won't be an issue here. Most Swedes are not especially interested in the royals, the media is more interested than the general public, and my guess is that if the photo was to appear in Swedish press most people would laugh about it, and the younger ones would probably think he did the right thing showing his opinion about the paps. I would think that many royals have wanted to do the same, and it's something I could imagine Carl Philip do one day, or something the king could have done while he was a crown prince, so I doubt the king is upset about the gesture and it's definitely not a reason for Madeleine and Chris to break their engagement.
To me this discussion is "en storm i ett vattenglas" (a gale in a glass of water).

I don't think there will be much of a discussion here in Sweden about Chris O'Neill and his role in the SRF, he will be an in-law and show up at some occasions, but on the whole he won't be important, whether he's liked or not won't reflect in any way on princess Madeleine, he will matter as little as John Ambler, Hansi Hohenzollern, Niclas Silfverschiöld or Tord Magnusson have done in Sweden when it comes to the public opinion about their wives.
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Old 12-03-2012, 07:00 AM
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That Chris O'Neill showed the finger to the press seems to only be an issue outside Sweden, I haven't seen any mentioning of it in any Swedish newspapers, maybe the photo will show up in one of the gossip mags that write about royals, but it won't be an issue here. Most Swedes are not especially interested in the royals, the media is more interested than the general public, and my guess is that if the photo was to appear in Swedish press most people would laugh about it, and the younger ones would probably think he did the right thing showing his opinion about the paps. I would think that many royals have wanted to do the same, and it's something I could imagine Carl Philip do one day, or something the king could have done while he was a crown prince, so I doubt the king is upset about the gesture and it's definitely not a reason for Madeleine and Chris to break their engagement.
To me this discussion is "en storm i ett vattenglas" (a gale in a glass of water).

I don't think there will be much of a discussion here in Sweden about Chris O'Neill and his role in the SRF, he will be an in-law and show up at some occasions, but on the whole he won't be important, whether he's liked or not won't reflect in any way on princess Madeleine, he will matter as little as John Ambler, Hansi Hohenzollern, Niclas Silfverschiöld or Tord Magnusson have done in Sweden when it comes to the public opinion about their wives.
This is exactly my opinion!
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Madeleine and Chris shopping in Soho on Sunday
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Madeleine ja Chris kaupungilla - rakkaus ei roihunnut - Kuninkaalliset - Ilta-Sanomat
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Madeleine and Chris arriving to the Christmas Lunch of the Swedish-American Chamber of Commerce yesterday. Madeleine is the patron of SACC New York.
https://www.anpfoto.nl/search.pp?pag...21599664&pos=6
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:31 AM
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a few bigger pictures Princesse Madeleine : Trčs chic avec son fiancé Chris, déjŕ menacé par la presse
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Madeleine and Chris at the cover of Svensk Damtidning
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Madeleine and Chris arriving to the Christmas Lunch of the Swedish-American Chamber of Commerce yesterday.
Madeleine was in a smiling mood, and Chris non-smiling, as usual I would say. I try to remain as objective as possible, but to me the only time he looked pleasant and relaxed was in the engagement video... I really hope he does not feel as unhappy or annoyed as he seems to be on most pictures, even at official events.
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Madeleine was in a smiling mood, and Chris non-smiling, as usual I would say. I try to remain as objective as possible, but to me the only time he looked pleasant and relaxed was in the engagement video... I really hope he does not feel as unhappy or annoyed as he seems to be on most pictures, even at official events.
Madeleine have most likely been taught to smile to the public and press from early childhood, Chris have yet to learn to fake a pleasant smile for the press.
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Madeleine was in a smiling mood, and Chris non-smiling, as usual I would say. I try to remain as objective as possible, but to me the only time he looked pleasant and relaxed was in the engagement video... I really hope he does not feel as unhappy or annoyed as he seems to be on most pictures, even at official events.
Yes, and it makes me very uncomfortable about the state of their relationship if he seems so sour at the start.
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Lunch of the Swedish-American Chamber of Commerce yesterday...Another perfect day in New York for Madeleine...And has for Chris..I don't know, I don't like him...
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Madeleine have most likely been taught to smile to the public and press from early childhood, Chris have yet to learn to fake a pleasant smile for the press.
I think you are right about Chris. He has led a "normal" albeit privileged life and publicity has been mainly restricted to the Society Pages and his mother's Charity activities. After all, Sweden is a long way away and they'll only have to trot out on show for special occassions, you know, those lovely little black tie events he is used to. You alight from the car, pose for the camera and move on into the venue, the world left behind. He, happy little NY bunny that he is, still fondly imagined that he was entitled to an actual "Private Life". He's lived a life of luxury and privilege and what he does, thinks and says is his business . . . and now, suddenly, it's not anymore.

Poor Chris, I think he made a decision about the "baggage" that comes with Madeleine believing it wouldn't be an issue on his home turf, at least not one that he couldn't handle and suddenly here comes the "Royalty Paparazzi Rat Brigade", digging into every corner of his "life before Madeleine", reinventing his life, his career, trying to muddy his professional integrity and implying that he is a crook!

And there he stands, a mature, educated, urbane man of the world, frozen like a bunny in the headlights and reduced to one last great act of taciturn defiance.

It's been one hell of a wake-up call and I guess "Charm School - a beginner's crash course in grit your teeth and smile!" is next on his agenda.
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