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I think that the reporter of Svensk Damtidning shouted them a question and they answered. That is not an interview.
No it isn't that's why I referred to it as a comment and not an interview
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The media has complained for a long time that the royals should give more interviews in their work events. Daniel gives a lot of interviews, always when he visits schools with Prince Daniel Fellowship and at the sports events. Carl Philip gives interviews in STCC races, he is often interviewed in them. And when he and Sofia arrive to somewhere, they normally talk to the media because Sofia loves the media. The king, queen and Victoria give less interviews due to what kind of work events they do. Victoria and Daniel, and the king and queen, have time to the media at the visits abroad.
Of course it depends on the work event, can a royal give an interview. Normally it is easier just on county visits like Madeleine's on Monday. Usually the royals arrive just before the event starts and they don't have time for an interview. Sometimes they give a short interview when they leave an event.
Margareta Thorgren has promised more openness to the court.
Today Margareta Thorgren has been in Finland to prepare the state visit so she hasn't answered yet.
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Old 02-04-2015, 06:56 PM
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The court about the letter:
'– The Princess and I have spoken to each other, she has read and seen the letter but we cannot communicate externally our communication, "said Margaret Thorgren, court press officer.
She says they will take the criticism and that there is always room for improvement. But also says that the policy of transparency and accessibility not only means to set up more interviews.
— In this case, it was a tight programme with many points emphasised within a short period of time and therefore there was no media meeting scheduled, "says Margaret Thorgren.
''She has just done a visit and think it's important to visit her province so this is a little surprising reaction, says Margaret Thorgren.''


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It's almost like the media are pushing Madeleine until she gets to the point where she says "You know what? Stuff you all!", packs up her family and moves from Sweden permanently only to return for family occasions like her aunts do, hell be damned for any succession issues which may crop up in the future.

And to be honest, she wouldn't get any criticism from me if she and Chris choose to do so.
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Old 02-05-2015, 12:03 AM
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You know what. Swedish journalists does not like Madeleine and she does not like them. This is fact and not new and shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone ! And a huge part of me understand her !

Trust me that Madeleines tenture in Sweden will not be long

What i actually find surprising is if the court hadn't scheduled any specific interview times at all. They always do it when the King and Queen is somewhere, they always do it when Victoria and Daniel is somewhere and they always do it when Carl Philip and Sofia is somewhere.

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It's almost like the media are pushing Madeleine until she gets to the point where she says "You know what? Stuff you all!", packs up her family and moves from Sweden permanently only to return for family occasions like her aunts do, hell be damned for any succession issues which may crop up in the future.



And to be honest, she wouldn't get any criticism from me if she and Chris choose to do so.

700 % agree !
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Old 02-05-2015, 12:18 AM
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The court about the letter:
'– The Princess and I have spoken to each other, she has read and seen the letter but we cannot communicate externally our communication, "said Margaret Thorgren, court press officer.
She says they will take the criticism and that there is always room for improvement. But also says that the policy of transparency and accessibility not only means to set up more interviews.
— In this case, it was a tight programme with many points emphasised within a short period of time and therefore there was no media meeting scheduled, "says Margaret Thorgren.
''She has just done a visit and think it's important to visit her province so this is a little surprising reaction, says Margaret Thorgren.''


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Surprising reaction? Madeleine is the duchess of Hälsingland and Gästrikland. And if she hasn't given any interviews to the radio ever during her visits to her duchies, the reaction isn't surprising at all.
Reporter Christian Ploog from Sveriges Radio P4 Gävleborg in his Twitter, Margareta Thorgren has answered to them:
Thorgren said that it is probably due to the technique of Radio P4 Gävleborg, Madeleine should have given a special interview to them to make the interview possible. She also said that it is not totally impossible that Madeleine will give an exclusive interview to P4 Gävleborg.
https://twitter.com/christian_ploog/...206592/photo/1

Thorgren isn't handling this situation very well. She messed already with the press with the question of nazism Victoria got in Auschwitz and this is another badly handled situation. Like some people wrote at their chronicles, Victoria handled the situation much better than the court's press department.

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What i actually find surprising is if the court hadn't scheduled any specific interview times at all. They always do it when the King and Queen is somewhere, they always do it when Victoria and Daniel is somewhere and they always do it when Carl Philip and Sofia is somewhere.
I think that it isn't always a decision from the court. For instance, when Carl Philip and Sofia arrived to the prize ceremony in November, the press was waiting for them. They could have said "we don't have time for interviews" and went inside to the hall. But they stopped and talked with the press. Same goes for Victoria and Daniel.
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Old 02-05-2015, 12:36 AM
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From Arbetarbladet, a newspaper in Gästrikland

The Princess and the Pea
Leif Eriksson from P4 Gävleborg, is unhappy. Rightly so. Princess Madeleine has visited the county and there wasn't made any interviews. This time either.
Instead of answering questions the princess couple showed themselves to the county. It was enough. So Leif Eriksson wrote a letter to the court. A very, very good one.
The arrogance of power showed this way. Instead of answering questions, nice visits and empty smiles. The Duchess does this to her people, for the simple reason that she knows she can.
No other power institution in Sweden is as unexamined as the royal family. No other power department can avoid journalists' questions in the same way.
The royal family is a tax-funded activity. But despite this, and the fact that the royal family is a power department, perfectly reasonable questions are considered to be insolent. Like when knowledgeable and experienced SVT reporter Rolf Fredriksson made the relevant question to Victoria at the commemoration of the Holocaust on how she saw that her grandfather was a member of the Nazi party, while Folke Bernadotte organized the white buses.
A program "The Year with the Royal Family" would be unthinkable of the government. We would never accept a one-hour tribute about the great leader, Prime Minister, without any critical questions, and be content if the Prime Minister and the government's year was depicted with pictures of how Stefan Löfven jumps around outside Harpsund in the grass along with his ministers, sitting and cuddles with his wife Ulla and talks about how wonderful it is to be in love. It is unacceptable, because we live in a democracy, not a dictatorship.
If Princess Madeleine thinks that it is so insanely burdensome to answer journalists' questions, there is a very simple solution to it all. That is to renounce her privileges. If she doesn't choose to do it, then she should listen to Leif Eriksson and actually accept that privileges come with responsibilities.
It would be best, of course, if we jointly liberated royal house from the publicity they so obviously hate, by making Sweden a republic.
Prinsessan på ärten - arbetarbladet.se
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This is getting to a far more bigger issue than Margareta Thorgren thought.

Margareta Thorgren to Expressen:
- Of course, we learn from the criticism, it is entirely accorcding to our information policy to be open and transparent. In this specific case in Gävle there was not promised any media meeting because it was a full program and tight on time. It is not true that the Princess has not given any interviews, there have been spontaneous interviews and she responded to questions even on Monday.
It was the Princess's visit in Gävle on Monday that broke the camel's back.
- As a publisher I have to point this out. She is part of the royal family and has duties. She is the Duchess of Hälsingland and Gästrikland and Crown Princess's husband is from the county. This means that there is a great interest for us, says Leif Eriksson.
Even other newspapers that were at the place during the visit recognize themselves in the picture.
- It was very frustrating not to be able to ask some questions and not being able to do their job, says Sofia Öhlander, a reporter for Gefle Dagblad. Patrik Åkesson, Chairman of the Royalist association, believes that the princess has the right to be reserved when journalists ask questions.
- I do not know what questions P4 Gävleborg figured to ask, but one can suspect that it is not solely focused on issues of the duchy and what she thinks is important, he says.
P4-chefens kritik – i protestbrev till hovet Nyheter Expressen
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Full program and tight on time, Thorgren? A four hour visit with a lunch in 12.00, visit to Esri 14.15 and to Activity center Helges in 15.00. Thorgren's comments seem arrogant and make the situation even worse.
It also seems that the court is totally unprepared to this situation, that someone really has the courage to criticize them in an open letter.
The world has changed and people don't bow to the royal family anymore.
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Old 02-05-2015, 12:59 AM
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Princess Madeleine and Chris O'Neill, Current Events Part 1: December 2012 -

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Surprising reaction? Madeleine is the duchess of Hälsingland and Gästrikland. And if she hasn't given any interviews to the radio ever during her visits to her duchies, the reaction isn't surprising at all.
Reporter Christian Ploog from Sveriges Radio P4 Gävleborg in his Twitter, Margareta Thorgren has answered to them:
Thorgren said that it is probably due to the technique of Radio P4 Gävleborg, Madeleine should have given a special interview to them to make the interview possible. She also said that it is not totally impossible that Madeleine will give an exclusive interview to P4 Gävleborg.
https://twitter.com/christian_ploog/...206592/photo/1

Thorgren isn't handling this situation very well. She messed already with the press with the question of nazism Victoria got in Auschwitz and this is another badly handled situation. Like some people wrote at their chronicles, Victoria handled the situation much better and the court's press department.



I think that it isn't always a decision from the court. For instance, when Carl Philip and Sofia arrived to the prize ceremony in November, the press was waiting for them. They could have said "we don't have time for interviews" and went inside to the hall. But they stopped and talked with the press. Same goes for Victoria and Daniel.

Maybe. The court can probably not decide the whole program for a local visit somewhere but they can certainly decide wether or not the royals should stay five or ten minutes longer outside the official program for interviews.
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Old 02-05-2015, 01:24 AM
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It's almost like the media are pushing Madeleine until she gets to the point where she says "You know what? Stuff you all!", packs up her family and moves from Sweden permanently only to return for family occasions like her aunts do, hell be damned for any succession issues which may crop up in the future.

And to be honest, she wouldn't get any criticism from me if she and Chris choose to do so.
Madde already had the chance to do so, and she chose not to. It seems to me that this is all part of the 'a little bit of everything' that Madde seems to love. A princess yes, but privacy abroad as well. Getting married but the husband doesnt want to be part of the game. Smiling in public at high profile events but talking to the press, no.

It's neither fish nor flesh. This attitude is bound to fail.
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Old 02-05-2015, 02:17 AM
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I think too much a fuss is being made by this, the woman is on maternity leave and pregnant with her second child and yet she didn't mind traveling to another city because she was aware of the importance of such an event she could have easily not gone saying that she was not feeling well or that she is not obliged to work while on leave.
Now although giving an interview can be beneficial it's her choice whether to give one or not, I think visiting the place is waaay more important than talking about it
I think the biggest crime for the media is that Princess Madeleine is Princess Madeleine. They go after when things around her are uneventful- and rightly so because she is a representative of the country, but then they go after as well when she does work.....she is at a point where she cannot win and honestly I think she should stop giving a damn about the media and focus on what it is that the people want,her duty is to the nation and not to please a reporter after all she has given many interviews in her life ....just not in Gavle
I too like the court think that this is surprising and uncalled for, she had a tight shedule and there weren't any interviews planned before hand....I would of course understand criticism for not visiting the place or canceling the event
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Old 02-05-2015, 02:51 AM
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Leif Eriksson to Sveriges Radio
- The princess has put in the system to avoid the media. She has avoided it at all official visits to the county. I think it is not the mission she has. She belongs to polity and to the royal family, she is paid by the taxpayers and she has power. In addition, she has a mission in her role as princess.
- She has never given interviews. We should be able to ask the listener's and people's questions to her. She did get a duchy here and we are interested to ask her what she thinks about it, what it means in practice, or is it just a title for her. Could it mean something for business or tourism? How she looks at the county and on developments here? These are questions that we have not even had the chance to ask, says Leif Eriksson.
P4-chefens kritik mot Hovet - Nyheter (Ekot) Sveriges Radio
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A blog at Arbetarbladet, a newspaper in Gästrikland
A reasonable reaction from the P4 manager
Princess Madeleine visited in Gävle on Monday. She refused to give interviews. Now Leif Eriksson, director and publisher of P4 Gävleborg, rages in an open letter to the court. It is a reasonable and refreshing reaction.
- It's great to be back in Gävle, said Madeleine to Arbetarbladet's reporter Anton Emanuelsson.
More was not said.
Princess Madeleine was in fact not interested to talk to the media.
Leif Eriksson's open letter is refreshing, not least because the publishers within the Public Service all too rarely make their voices heard in the public debate.
It is good that Leif Eriksson reacts. I agree with him fully.
Just like Eriksson writes the behavior has so far been accepted by the media.
The question is how we choose to act the next time the Duchess of Hälsingland and Gästrikland visits our county. It remains to be seen.
Is it worth giving to "a show that is unworthy of a modern monarchy" so great media space. After Princess Madeleine's last visit, I am very hesitant about it.
Sund reaktion av P4-chefen nordstrom
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When Victoria and Daniel visited Ockelbo and Gävle in Gästrikland in May 2011, Daniel gave long interviews to Arbetarbladet and Gefle Dagblad.
”Jag har fel och brister – men jag duger” - arbetarbladet.se
http://www.gd.se/gastrikland/ockelbo...r-sitt-ockelbo
Daniel's interview for Radio P4 Gävleborg at his visit to Ockelbo camp in 2013
Prins matar prins i Ockelbo - Kronprinsessan Victoria och Prins Daniel - Victoria och Daniel Sveriges Radio
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Old 02-05-2015, 04:50 AM
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While I agree that Madeleine should be doing more engagements and show a little more enthusiasm when she perfroms visits like this I really think that the cause of her avoidance of interviews and media interactions is due to the swedish media having it with her and Chris... That's my opinion. They never let them alone and try hard to criticize the couple.
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While I agree that Madeleine should be doing more engagements and show a little more enthusiasm when she perfroms visits like this I really think that the cause of her avoidance of interviews and media interactions is due to the swedish media having it with her and Chris... That's my opinion. They never let them alone and try hard to criticize the couple.
She hasn't given interviews at her visits to her duchies in 2004, 2005, 2006...
Radio P4 Gävleborg, Arbetarbladet and Gefle Dagblad aren't Expressen and Aftonbladet. They are not interested to write that Madeleine wore a beautiful blouse and Chris had a Rolex. They want to make interviews with real talk and matter.

Margareta Thorgren today at the Sveriges Radio:
- We really want to show the benefits that the royal family does for Sweden. The family works hard and makes many events per week and day.
What did Princess Madeleine say herself?
- The spontaneous reaction is that she was a little surprised because the princess along with the local organizer, ie the provincial government, was very pleased with this visit.
P4 Gävleborg channel manager Leif Eriksson is far from satisfied with the answers he receives from the court, saying that the princess has not "set aside an hour or more for the media in eleven years." Eriksson is irritated and resembles Princess Madeleine at the movie star Greta Garbo:
- She rises, waves, keeps distance and refuses to be interviewed. And thus the readers, listeners and viewers do not have access to her, says Leif Eriksson.
Radiochef kritiserar prinsessan Madeleine - P1-morgon Sveriges Radio
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Margareta Thorgren isn't any better than Bertil Ternert before her. Thorgren says at the Swedish Radio that the court tries to be as open as they can and tell about the work of the royal family at their website. That is not true. They have a calendar, sometimes the royals to suddenly a work event which wasn't at the calendar and that isn't put at the calendar later even though they make an article of it. And this week they haven't done an article with photos of two Victoria's and Daniel's work events and three Daniel's solo events and the king's and queen's events, just to start... And at the english version they tell at Victoria's page that "she loves to take long walks with her labrador Jambo". Jambo died in 2010! Lousy work.
Thorgren says also that the royals give many times interviews that aren't planned, short ones. So must every interview be planned? Does Thorgren mean that the court wants to know the questions beforehand?
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Hi, so I've been a lurker here for a while but this little "controversy" made me want to create an account and post. I think this whole situation is incredible dumb for a few reasons.

1. I would hardly call these radio hosts journalists. (correct me if I am wrong, but are they a talk show or an actual news station? If they are legit ignore this point.) Maybe it is different in the U.S but we would consider them media members but hardly journalists. And most real journalists know that people don't need to speak to them if they don't want to.

2. Let us not forget that Chris has had stuff dug up about him that TMZ wouldn't bother with. I mean blue prints of their apartment? Tax information? Cost of their living? Does it surprise them that they don't want to talk? They want to be critical and not "lovey dovey" but being critical is asking about work schedules, not about watches (seriously WTF?) or apartment size or where they will live.

3. It really hit home when the court suggested they wanted to pre screen the questions. While this is a little controlling, I see no reason for them not to. If any of you are fans of The Good Wife TV show, there is a scene where the main character, Alicia is in a political debate for public office. One of the questioners is there for their own agenda to slam her about her husband's cheating/affairs. Not for the politics and what matters. I almost feel this is a similar situation. Madeleine sits down for an interview, and instead of asking about Childhood projects, they start cornering and attack her by asking about living expenses, money issues and other personal things.

In all this seems like sour grapes more than anything. So sorry if my intro was a rant, but this whole thing is completely ridiculous.
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Hi, so I've been a lurker here for a while but this little "controversy" made me want to create an account and post. I think this whole situation is incredible dumb for a few reasons.

1. I would hardly call these radio hosts journalists. (correct me if I am wrong, but are they a talk show or an actual news station? If they are legit ignore this point.) Maybe it is different in the U.S but we would consider them media members but hardly journalists. And most real journalists know that people don't need to speak to them if they don't want to.

2. Let us not forget that Chris has had stuff dug up about him that TMZ wouldn't bother with. I mean blue prints of their apartment? Tax information? Cost of their living? Does it surprise them that they don't want to talk? They want to be critical and not "lovey dovey" but being critical is asking about work schedules, not about watches (seriously WTF?) or apartment size or where they will live.

3. It really hit home when the court suggested they wanted to pre screen the questions. While this is a little controlling, I see no reason for them not to. If any of you are fans of The Good Wife TV show, there is a scene where the main character, Alicia is in a political debate for public office. One of the questioners is there for their own agenda to slam her about her husband's cheating/affairs. Not for the politics and what matters. I almost feel this is a similar situation. Madeleine sits down for an interview, and instead of asking about Childhood projects, they start cornering and attack her by asking about living expenses, money issues and other personal things.

In all this seems like sour grapes more than anything. So sorry if my intro was a rant, but this whole thing is completely ridiculous.
I completely agree with you IMO it is ridiculous especially saying that not answering questions is undemocratic....forcing her to speak to journalists would be undemocratic

The local has now published an article in English about the whole thing

Swedish royal criticized for 'just waving' - Sweden's news in English
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Sorry but I think Mr Eriksson has a point. Madeleine has been cherrypicking for years, trying to get the best for her out of both worlds. Regarding the critizism, if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen and live as Mrs O'Neill in New York.
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Sorry but I think Mr Eriksson has a point. Madeleine has been cherrypicking for years, trying to get the best for her out of both worlds. Regarding the critizism, if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen and live as Mrs O'Neill in New York.
I agree with you. And maybe Madeleine should remember that she needs the press in her work for Childhood. And if she ever takes the job of her mother as the main figure of Childhood, she needs it even more.

Lena Mellin, the Deputy Publisher of Aftonbladet
You don't need to be a princess if you do not want
Princess Madeleine doesn't have to be a princess if she doesn't want. One can withdraw even from inherited titles if you do not like the responsibilities they entail.
Madeleine is the fourth in line to the Swedish throne. That means she is part of the Swedish polity. She is thus expected to appear in official contexts and represent Sweden and the continuity of Swedish history.
This can be done in different ways. But the path Princess Madeleine has chosen is not in tune with the court's own recommendations in the "Advice for organizers" on the court's website. It says: "The organizer is responsible that suitable barrier is made with respect to both the royal guests and to the photographers and journalists to have the best opportunity to do a good job."
To perform a journalistic work the ability to ask questions is basic. It's so the journalists and their audience, get to know something.

It's not that Princess Madeleine doesn't want to communicate, the contrary. But she prefers one-way communication. In January, she published a dozen posts on her official Facebook page, many about childhood conditions. And the film when she announced her engagement to Chris O'Neill is already a classic.
The marriage with him had been an excellent opportunity for Madeleine to withdraw from the limelight if that's what she wants. When the king's sisters married commoner men they got to keep a princess title but slipped out of the royal family.
If Madeleine would have wanted to withdraw from the scene the princess title offers, the wedding would have been a great opportunity. She would have also escaped the other side of the coin, the duties the role as a princess brings.
Chris O'Neill was offered to become a member of the royal family. But he wanted to continue his business and said thanks, but no thanks.
There are choices you can make. But Princess Madeleine has elected to both eat her cake and have it too.
Man behöver inte vara prinsessa om man inte vill Lena Mellin Kolumnister Nyheter Aftonbladet

Royal expert Sten Hedman agrees with Leif Eriksson about the criticism.
- It belongs to her duties so she has an obligation to set up and answer questions, he says.
Hedman thinks that Madeleine as the Duchess of Hälsingland and Gästrikland has a special role and should therefore be extra open for interviews from local media in the counties.
- They want to take her seriously. Here she can show that she doesn't just go around waving but is a woman that is well-informed and able to answer questions.
According to Hedman, there is a natural explanation for the princess's actions. Embarrassment. Which means that she never learned to speak in front of many people.
Hedman believes that Madeleine could learn a thing or two from Prince Daniel who often sets up to media purposes.
- He takes the task seriously and is very professional.
Hovexperten Därför ger inte prinsessan intervjuer - DN.SE
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Lena Mellin, the Deputy Publisher of Aftonbladet
You don't need to be a princess if you do not want
Princess Madeleine doesn't have to be a princess if she doesn't want. One can withdraw even from inherited titles if you do not like the responsibilities they entail.
Madeleine is the fourth in line to the Swedish throne. That means she is part of the Swedish polity. She is thus expected to appear in official contexts and represent Sweden and the continuity of Swedish history.
This can be done in different ways. But the path Princess Madeleine has chosen is not in tune with the court's own recommendations in the "Advice for organizers" on the court's website. It says: "The organizer is responsible that suitable barrier is made with respect to both the royal guests and to the photographers and journalists to have the best opportunity to do a good job."
To perform a journalistic work the ability to ask questions is basic. It's so the journalists and their audience, get to know something.

It's not that Princess Madeleine doesn't want to communicate, the contrary. But she prefers one-way communication. In January, she published a dozen posts on her official Facebook page, many about childhood conditions. And the film when she announced her engagement to Chris O'Neill is already a classic.
The marriage with him had been an excellent opportunity for Madeleine to withdraw from the limelight if that's what she wants. When the king's sisters married commoner men they got to keep a princess title but slipped out of the royal family.
If Madeleine would have wanted to withdraw from the scene the princess title offers, the wedding would have been a great opportunity. She would have also escaped the other side of the coin, the duties the role as a princess brings.
Chris O'Neill was offered to become a member of the royal family. But he wanted to continue his business and said thanks, but no thanks.
There are choices you can make. But Princess Madeleine has elected to both eat her cake and have it too.
Man behöver inte vara prinsessa om man inte vill Lena Mellin Kolumnister Nyheter Aftonbladet
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I've been following this discussion for a while now and find it quite interesting.

It seems to me that Madeleine's situation is comparable to that of many celebrities. There are those in Hollywood who are always complaining about the press and yet never manage to stay under the radar. Others seem to be successful at keeping their private lives private, they don't complain or throw fits, they just manage their daily lives without a fuss. Yet when it's time to face the press, they smile politely and give the odd interview.

I think this has everything to do with their personality types and how successful they are at managing the press. Attempting to control the media or appearing hostile toward them is never going to work because no single person can control them.

It is entirely up to Madeleine to handle the situation with more tact and maturity. Appear less hostile and defensive and perhaps her husband should follow suit. Even in the recent documentary about the SRF Chris was hinting that he did not like the media attention. If you're going to adopt a negative attitude from day one then the media is going to pick up on that and be more critical. It's the nature of the beast. Surely when he married his wife he realized that she wasn't severing all ties with her country or giving up all her responsibilities. She still has her title even if he refused his. This is just the beginning. They're going to live their entire lives under media scrutiny.

I think this couple needs a lesson in media relations. Look how cleverly Camilla was rehabilitated in the British media after Diana's death.
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Old 02-05-2015, 06:46 PM
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I count myself guilty for overlooking the fact that Madeleine is pregnant and, to be honest, while Catherine is getting a fee pass because of it, Madeleine is in the wierd situation of being the cause of a storm of agro with no end in sight.

I think it's that great karma thing, or maybe the biblical reaping of what you sow, but Princess Madeleine is in the gun. No ifs or buts and certainly no free pass. She has treated the press with arrogance and rudeness and, on the rare occasion she is in the public eye, they are going to go for it. Only the timing is unfortunate as she is certainly not undeserving.
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