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10-25-2012, 01:14 PM
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And what, pray tell, is so wrong with that?
It's akin to a woman keeping her last name and her husband choosing to add her name to his. It's rare, but it does happen and there's nothing wrong with that.
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Nothing wrong with it. Just odd to me. Can't imagine a 'Prince Dave Clark of York' in the United Kingdom though 
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10-25-2012, 01:15 PM
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I wasn't expecting this news to come so soon either. I thought the news would come of Prince Carl Philip's engagement but Madeleine's came first so....
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10-25-2012, 01:15 PM
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I'm very happy for princess Madeleine! She will be a beautiful bride! A beautiful event to look for!
She looks very happy with Chris!
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10-25-2012, 01:19 PM
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Really? Haven't read anything about it. Do you have a link ? Would be great.
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Here, it was an in an interview with the marshal of the realm:
Google Translate
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10-25-2012, 01:19 PM
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I wish Madeleine all the best but I must admit my feelings towards this engagement are not good: they dated for very little time
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They have been together for about 1½ years, the king and queen had known eachother for four years when they got married (one reason for waiting four years was that Silvia had promised to work at the Olympic Games in Innsbruck, otherwise they would probably have married sooner). It's not certain that a long relationship beforehand means that a marriage will last, sometimes people know from the beginning that a person is the right one for them.
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Is it normal to have a video?
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No, there is usually an interview, but the couple are already on their way home to New York, so I guess that the video is instead of an interview.
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He'll probably getting a dukedom.
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He won't get a dukedom of his own, but he may get his wife's ducal title.
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Whether he is created a Prince of Sweden in his own right (like Daniel was) remains to be seen, but I wouldn't be surprised if he were.
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It's unlikely that he will be made a prince, Jonas Bergström wasn't going to be made a prince so I can't see a reason why the king would make Chris a prince.
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It's said in the official interview that Chris will not apply for the swedish citizenship. So he will stay british/amarican. And if I remember right titles are not possible / won't be recognized officially in any way in the american everyday life. So is it even possible to give him an official title / male version of Madeleines title (the title of a completely different country) if he doesn't want to change his citizenship?  |
As he has a British citizenship I can't see any reason why he couldn't get his wife's ducal title: Mr Christopher O'Neill, duke of Hälsingland and Gästrikland, to be titled the same way as it was intended for Jonas Bergström.
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Chris will not attend the Nobel Prizes, at least this year, even when Daniel was engaged to Victoria he didnt go, he only attended when married.
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Jonas Bergström attended the Nobel Prize ceremony in 2010, http://tinyurl.com/bp8b45l , wheh he was engaged to Madeleine, there is no reason why Chris wouldn't attend this years Nobel Prize ceremony. Daniel didn't attend 2010, but that due to his kidney transplant, as he was on immunosuppressive drugs and it was considered unwise to attend such a large gathering of people.
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10-25-2012, 01:22 PM
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Different royal houses, different traditions. If Princess Madeleine were a member of the Japanese Imperial family, she would have become Mrs. O'Neill. However, even the Imperial Household Agency is re-considering such strict tradition. If Mr. Clark and Princess Beatrice are offered a title, they should take it. Why not?
Princess Madeleine is engaged to Mr. O'Neill | Spletnik.ru
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10-25-2012, 01:28 PM
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*Screamed with excitement* when I saw this news. I have been taken on the hop as I really expected news of a Carl-Philip / Sofia engagement before that of Maddy and Chris.
Teasing now ..... but I expect that Sofia is fuming that it isn't her engagement that is being announced. 
Am delighted for both of them. Another delicious royal wedding for us to delight over. 
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10-25-2012, 01:29 PM
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well... if it went by how spouses take their titles from their husband/wife (if equal primogeniture was passed for all titles), wouldn't he be Prince Beatrice?
Now that sounds even weirder eh?
On the engagement, perhaps Madeleine dated Jonas a tad bit too long. Putting off the wedding and delaying a breakup even shows that there was a lot of doubts going on in that relationship but they just held on hoping things would get better. I think a year is plenty long enough to know how well you mesh with another person and if its right... go for it.
I wish them all the best and am really looking forward to another royal wedding to anticipate. I'm seriously crossing all body parts for a white tie wedding too.
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10-25-2012, 01:32 PM
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But you don't see anything odd with Mr Philip Mountbatten becoming the duke of Edinburgh on his wedding to princess Elizabeth, or Mr Anthony Armstrong Jones becoming the Earl of Snowdon marrying princess Margaret, do you? They also got their titles by marriage.
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10-25-2012, 01:32 PM
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Congrats to the both of them! She looks really stunning in the video and pictures.
The video was cringeworthy though. They both looked like they were reading off tele-prompters. Madeleine's giggle at the end was sweet though.
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10-25-2012, 01:33 PM
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Congratulations to the happy couple!
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An Ard Ri, we have to dig up an Irish connection for Chris. "O'Neill" ..... surely, surely there must be one.
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10-25-2012, 01:37 PM
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But you don't see anything odd with Mr Philip Mountbatten becoming the duke of Edinburgh on his wedding to princess Elizabeth, or Mr Anthony Armstrong Jones becoming the Earl of Snowdon marrying princess Margaret, do you? They also got their titles by marriage.
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Their own styles and titles were a gift from the King and Queen. They didn't take their wives titles upon marriage. In fact Elizabeth became the Duchess of Edinburgh after her husband.
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10-25-2012, 01:38 PM
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I wish Madeleine all the best but I must admit my feelings towards this engagement are not good: they dated for very little time, I wonder if she had the time to understand if this guy is really interested in Madeleine or if he is more interested in the princess of Sweden.
I can't help but thinking that she's trying to forget Jonas by marrying as soon as possible someone with a very good CV.
Nothing rational about my thoughts, it's only a feeling!
Btw YES, that video of the couple WAS very SILLY!
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I totally agree. At the photos Chris looks like a man who has got (and his mother has got) what he has always wanted, a perfect trophy wife. Madeleine looks to be over the moon, I hope that she won't be disappointed this time also.
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10-25-2012, 01:47 PM
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I don't see how anyone can say he has always wanted a trophy wife or that his mother wanted the same. He looks reserved to me and they both look happy to me.
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10-25-2012, 01:58 PM
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I don't see how anyone can say he has always wanted a trophy wife or that his mother wanted the same. He looks reserved to me and they both look happy to me.
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If you search a bit information about his mother and her partner life online, you'll understand those comments regarding his mother, which may or may not be true also for him.
Anyway I hope this one lasts, and Madeleine really found what she was looking for. Congrats to them!
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Apparently Chris' mum dated Prince Charles.
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10-25-2012, 01:59 PM
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I imagine a semi private wedding at Solliden or Drottningholm without a large turnout from the Gotha, maybe just a few that have close friendships with Madeleine and her family.
I expect Chris not to receive any personal titles but to become duke consort to his wife. I believe this is what was intended for Jonas, duke consort without the HRH and not a prince of Sweden.
Congratulations to the couple and best wishes for their future together.
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10-25-2012, 02:03 PM
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Dave ..? You mean Chris, don't you?
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10-25-2012, 02:07 PM
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Dave ..? You mean Chris, don't you?
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LOL, thats what happens when you talk and type at the same time. Fixed it.
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10-25-2012, 02:17 PM
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I wish them all the best! This video seems a little more natural than the interview with Jonas, in my opinion. I wonder how long they've been engaged though? I only wonder because their engagement pictures, video and announcement all happened on the same day.
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