Christening of Princess Leonore: June 8, 2014


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I thought all the royal ladies looked lovely today. In fact, I think Victoria looked much better today than she did at Estelle's christening.

Yes, Sofia was her usual inappropriate self. Oh, well ...

Finally, I am "so over" everyone being critical of Madeleine. Correct me, but do all those born as "spares" (e.g., Andrew, Harry, Madeleine, and Carl Philip) have some type of genetic flaw that I'm not aware of? Or, perhaps, the problem is that everyone wants them to be "royal" but not "royal" ... let's see ... they are expected to fulfill royal duties but somehow pack a lunch and take public transportation to some job! It's ridiculous!

Give it a rest people ...
 
suztav said:
I thought all the royal ladies looked lovely today. In fact, I think Victoria looked much better today than she did at Estelle's christening.

Yes, Sofia was her usual inappropriate self. Oh, well ...

Finally, I am "so over" everyone being critical of Madeleine. Correct me, but do all those born as "spares" (e.g., Andrew, Harry, Madeleine, and Carl Philip) have some type of genetic flaw that I'm not aware of? Or, perhaps, the problem is that everyone wants them to be "royal" but not "royal" ... let's see ... they are expected to fulfill royal duties but somehow pack a lunch and take public transportation to some job! It's ridiculous!

Give it a rest people ...
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To me the difference is that Andrew and Harry work for their royal title. We see photos of it, if we want to find out. They meet the common people of their country in their duties. Even Carl Philip works, although too little. But Madeleine doesn't work hardly at all, she comes to Sweden to attend at the family celebrations and "represents" like that. But she hasn't hardly any if none, normal royal solo work duties in Sweden. She wants to have all the royal glory without any boring obligations. I know that she works for the World Childhood Foundation, but she could do that as mrs Madeleine Bernadotte O'Neill. We all have our opinions and this is mine. The criticism against the royal family, how much they work and how they spend their apanage is growing all the time. As a fan of the swedish royal family I'm concerned about the future of it.
But this isn't the right thread to discuss about it, back to the christening:

At this photo on the second row are Chris's sisters Karen and Annalisa, Stefanie didn't attend at the christening.
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Gallery
Bildextra – se gästerna från prinsessan Leonores dop Svensk Damtidning
 
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angela said:
I thought Estelle was put in the cradle as a future Queen.Madeleine seems to be making sure that in Royal terms nothing is going to get past her baby. For someone who doesn't even live in Sweden she seems to like all the trappings when she is there.
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Estelle wasn't put on the craddle as future queen. She was put there as Princess of Sweden. Even Madeleine herself was put there on her christening.
http://www.kungahuset.se/images/18..../PRM-dop-31-aug-1982-Jan-Collsiöö-Scanpix.jpg
So Leonore sleeping on the craddle is not a big deal.


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Vanielle Berstling said:
Estelle wasn't put on the craddle as future queen. She was put there as Princess of Sweden. Even Madeleine herself was put there on her christening.
http://www.kungahuset.se/images/18..../PRM-dop-31-aug-1982-Jan-Collsiöö-Scanpix.jpg
So Leonore sleeping on the craddle is not a big deal.


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We weren't talking about that sleeping at a cradle is a big deal. The point was that Madeleine and Leonore were put to a different cradle than Estelle. Estelle was put to the cradle where Carl Philip had also been, the cradle for the heirs and future regents. That was what we were talking about, that Estelle was put to the more valuable and older cradle than Leonore, because Estelle is the future queen.

Gallery from finnish Iltalehti
Katso kuvat Leonoren ristiäisistä! Kuninkaalliset Iltalehti.fi

According to the finnish press, Estelle charmed everyone
Estelle hurmasi serkkunsa ristiäisissä - mikä ihanuus! Kuninkaalliset Iltalehti.fi
Veikeä Estelle jälleen vauhdissa - Kuninkaalliset - Ilta-Sanomat

According to finnish Iltasanomat, Eva O'Neill made two mistakes at the church: she curtsied to the king's sisters, and sat right after Carl Philip escorted her to the church, although all were waiting for Madeleine, Chris and Leonore.
Chris O'Neillin äiti mokasi kirkossa kahdesti - Kuninkaalliset - Ilta-Sanomat
 
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It does seem to me as though Madeleine has got the classic younger sibling syndrome of wanting to have her cake and eat it, too. Probably due to having gotten her will and being spoiled all her life. She wants to live a life in privacy, do a minimal amount of duties for Sweden yet she also wants to be treated like her siblings who work for and live in Sweden as well as titles for her children. However, it's not something new so it doesn't quite bother me anymore.

I haven't gotten around to watching the entirety of the ceremony yet, but what I have seen from it looks lovely. What a munchkin little Leonore is! And I said it when Estelle was christened and I'll say it again: that christening gown is fabulous, it looks so great on little children. Definitely my favourite of all the royal christening gowns. It'll be interesting to see how it will look on a boy. Madeleine looked absolutely stunning and I liked Victoria's dress as well but don't care for her headgear. Little Estelle is just fantastic. I love that Madeleine seemingly insists that V&D bring her to the various things. Definitely goes to show how much she loves her little nieces.

I am slightly bummed that Christopher didn't hold his daughter. I had severely hoped that they would have made a reverted-Estelle and have Madeleine carry her into the church and Christopher carry her out. But oh well, you can't have it all.
 
USCtrojan said:
Madeline's dress is very short -this picture of here adjusting Leonores cradle shows how short it is.
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i agree, i'm not a fan of what madeleine chose to wear. chris' sisters, on the contrary, look impeccable, just like they always do.

aw, estelle! what a cutie she is. great to see her always beaming. she has to be one of my favourite royal kids.
 
suztav said:
Yes, Sofia was her usual inappropriate self. Oh, well ...
Give it a rest people ...
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I thought Sophia looked great, although any number of you will complain that her skirt is too short. I thought she looked modern, and fairly sedate. On her, that non-color striped coat suit was stunning.

So she can't pose - part of her charm seems to be that she is her own free-spirited self. Most of those pictures were caught as she walked.
 
It is great watching the live events of Swedish Royal Family!!! They all follow the monarchy's traditions.

I really enjoyed everything, love the outfits of Queen Silvia, Madeleine and Victoria. Leonor and Estelle are the cutest girls.
 
angela said:
Of for goodness sake she didn't get the Order as well did she? Someone ought to take PM aside and explain that Estelle will be the Sovereign one day and therefore has to be treated a bit differently and it's not personal. Honestly, I have never seen so much heaped upon the child of a younger daughter in ANY other Royal Family. Leonore has had everything that Estelle has had which is just ridiculous. PM is starting to look like a spoiled brat IMO.
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As for the Order of the Seraphim all members of the royal family gets it, earlier it was at their 18th birthday, but the king changed the tradition at the baptism of Estelle, so that's why Leonore also got it at her baptism and that's how their future siblings/cousins will get the order.

As for the gifts that Leonore got, I can't say that they were that expensive. Depending on how many books she will get, the sum will probably end somewhere between 5 000 to 10 000 SEK.
The playroom furniture, my guess is that they are made by Guteform Utemöbler- Svenska trädgårdsmöbler från Guteform Design and a garden set for four adults in pine costs about 10 000 SEK, which is not considered much here in Sweden.
As for the Gotlandsruss, she's newborn and it will probably live her first years on Lojsta hajd with her mommy and the other ponies there. You can buy a trained russ for 10 000 - 15 000 SEK, a newborn wouldn't cost the Gotland county council much.
 
NoorMeansLight said:
The Swedish people have the right to be informed about the cost, of course.

Very kind of Victoria to help her sister at the rehearsals!
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There is no reason for the Swedish people to know the cost for single events. The King gets an apanage and he and his staff are responsible for carrying out the royal functions.
 
Chris' sisters, from the left
Countess Natascha von Abensperg und Traun, Karen and Annalisa O'Neill.
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Madeleine's friends Nathalie and Dag Werner
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Madeleine's friends Ellen and Jan Dinkelspiel, Louise and Jacob Cronstedt and Charlotte and Christoffer Cederlund.
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Expressen's fashion panel judging the outfits from 1 to 5
5: Crown princess Victoria and queen Silvia
4: Princess Madeleine, Heike Wajselfisz (Chris' friend), Karolin A. Johansson (head of Victoria's household)
3: Sofia Hellqvist, Alice Bamford (godmother)
2: Eva O'Neill, Tatjana d'Abo
Kronprinsessan fick delad guldplats med... Kungligheter Expressen
 
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Lovely christening from what I could see. So nice that Silvia and mad seemed to have same dress in different colors and similar veils. Never saw much od m,s dress as gorgeous gown was in front of it most of the time. Victoria looked chic with turban like mrs one ill. Estelle adorable in mamas dress. The baby was a real angel
Is there a video somewhere?
 
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LadyFinn said:
I'm here! Sofia Hellqvist arrives... And as usual, she just can't pose discreetly.
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OMG!!!!! Couldn't she learn a correct posture???? She might be soon a Princess of Sweden!!!!
 
 
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MagMil said:
official pictures with brother and all sisters
http://www.kungahuset.se/images/200...on+foto+Anna-Lena+Ahlström+kungahuset.se+.jpg

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with grandparents
http://www.kungahuset.se/images/200...rar+foto+Anna-Lena+Ahlström+kungahuset.se.jpg

and with godparents

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Well, they have surely learned something. The court published official photos from Estelle's christening only three days after the christening. This time they have been awake.
 
LadyFinn said:
To me the difference is that Andrew and Harry work for their royal title. We see photos of it, if we want to find out. They meet the common people of their country in their duties. Even Carl Philip works, although too little. But Madeleine doesn't work hardly at all, she comes to Sweden to attend at the family celebrations and "represents" like that. But she hasn't hardly any if none, normal royal solo work duties in Sweden. She wants to have all the royal glory without any boring obligations. I know that she works for the World Childhood Foundation, but she could do that as mrs Madeleine Bernadotte O'Neill. We all have our opinions and this is mine. The criticism against the royal family, how much they work and how they spend their apanage is growing all the time. As a fan of the swedish royal family I'm concerned about the future of it.



I have to agree on some points you state! Princes Andrew and Harry served as servicemen for their country and overtook a huge workload of royal duties. Both are the monarchs son (one of them already, the other one in the future), which none of Prcss Madeleines children ever will be.
Royal titles always go with high expectations from the public. I still don´t know why in times of scaling down royal families to prevent too much costs for the state (many members of a royal family= much money from the civil list), the King insisted on making this particular grandchild a royal princess and created her a duchess...? I mean, what´s wrong with being a commoner? Both his daughters married one. That things are different for Victoria and Estelle is fair enough and no one would criticise that.
I doubt if Prcss Madeleine is to blame here! I´m sure if the King said something like "Make a decision. If you marry Chris your children will be little Mr. and Miss O´Neills", she surely would have agreed on that!
But why children of a princess who obviously enjoys living abroad and not being too fond about working as a Royal have to have royal titles and tax payers money from the civil list that goes with it when they´ll come of age when saving it would have been so easy is beyond me...?!
But don´t get me wrong: I like the O´Neills, they´re a beautiful family with a lovely cute little daughter. But that´s not my point.
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The christening was grander than I expected it to be, but it was a nice service. I enjoyed the singer dressed in pink (whom I assume was singing in German). The godparents were kind of who I expected, and I remember correctly guessing CP Victoria, Louise Gottlieb and Tatjana d'Abo.

Little Leonore is a beautiful baby and I've always thought the small Order of the Seraphim is adorable. She reminds me a little of Prince George at his christening, I think it's the eyes that do it. Estelle was also very cute throughout, as always. ;) I love how she was climbing on the chair and displayed everything, as well as her little waves. :D I thought Sofia was posing in an appropriate way, and also that her outfit wasn't too short. I think she'll always get critiques though. (And I'm not aiming this at some posters here, so don't get me wrong.)

I'm pleased that the christening was on a Sunday, because that means I had time to watch the live stream and catch up on the bits I missed. I find it interesting how the godparents didn't stand around the altar, is this not a tradition in Sweden? This is common in my country. Also, the live stream were filming a girl, who looked around 14 or 15 years old and a boy, who looked around 11 or 12 years old a lot. Are they Sommerlath relatives or children of friends of Madeleine or Chris/children of one of Chris's relatives?

Archduchess Zelia said:
I am slightly bummed that Christopher didn't hold his daughter. I had severely hoped that they would have made a reverted-Estelle and have Madeleine carry her into the church and Christopher carry her out. But oh well, you can't have it all.
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Actually Chris did hold Leonore, in the live stream he was shown holding her after the bishop had poured the water over her forehead. :flowers:
 
HereditaryPrincess said:
Also, the live stream were filming a girl, who looked around 14 or 15 years old and a boy, who looked around 11 or 12 years old a lot. Are they Sommerlath relatives or children of friends of Madeleine or Chris/children of one of Chris's relatives?
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The ones who sat behind the godparents? I believe that's Chris's niece and nephew, Chiara and Louis Abensperg und Traun – his sister, Natascha, and Leonore's godfather, Count Ernst's children as well as Madeleine's bridal attendants.

HereditaryPrincess said:
Actually Chris did hold Leonore, in the live stream he was shown holding her after the bishop had poured the water over her forehead. :flowers:
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Yeah I am just watching it now. It was waaay too short for my liking though – men with babies is my kryptonite :D He should have carried her out of the church.
 
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:previous: Yes, I meant the two children behind the godparents. Thanks for the info. :flowers: I like that we got to see Chris holding Leonore, at least he didn't not hold her, although I do agree with you, it would've been nice if we saw more of him holding her. However in most cases, babies prefer to be held by their mothers, so perhaps Leonore is a 'mummy's girl'. :)
 
wartenberg7 said:
I still don´t know why in times of scaling down royal families to prevent too much costs for the state (many members of a royal family= much money from the civil list), the King insisted on making this particular grandchild a royal princess and created her a duchess...? I mean, what´s wrong with being a commoner?
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I believe grandchildren of Swedish monarchs in the line of succession have traditionally been HRHs and royal dukes. King Carl XVI Gustaf is just following precedent then. The only difference now is that, since 1980, women have been also in the line of succession, which wasn't the case before.
 
For me it was lovely that before the Royal Family arrived at church the guests could hear the music that was played one year before as King Carl XVI Gustaf lead his daughter to her bridegroom.
 
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