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Ahhh! China's back in the lead....oh well. If I was Michael I would have stopped after #20. Michael sweety you're starting to look greedy.
Does anyone know what country the ping pong gold medalist is from?
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I agree, especially given that he is 6 inches shorter than Phelps.
Bert le Clos is Chad le Clos' father. And I totally agree: both Chad and his father are amazing.
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Old 08-03-2012, 04:06 PM
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Google says US is #1 and China is #2. Tied for gold but we have more bronze. I hate that I can't find an actual site to tell me who won what and for what event. Guess its the drawback for browsing on an iPod.
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Old 08-03-2012, 04:08 PM
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Ahhh! China's back in the lead....oh well. If I was Michael I would have stopped after #20. Michael sweety you're starting to look greedy.
Does anyone know what country the ping pong gold medalist is from?
Currently China has two golds in Table Tennis, they also have two silver. Germany and Singapore have a bronze medal each.

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That would be due to his over zealous appreciation of the British crowd and GB itself.
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Old 08-03-2012, 04:09 PM
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Google says US is #1 and China is #2. Tied for gold but we have more bronze. I hate that I can't find an actual site to tell me who won what and for what event. Guess its the drawback for browsing on an iPod.
The latest info I have (via nbcolympics.com) is that the US has 21 golds and China has 20. Same number of medals overall (42), but China has more silver and the US has more bronze.
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Ahhh! China's back in the lead....oh well. If I was Michael I would have stopped after #20. Michael sweety you're starting to look greedy.
Does anyone know what country the ping pong gold medalist is from?
Is China back in the lead? I thought the US still keeps it, with 21 Gold medals (as opposed to China's 20).
Both women's and men's table tennis singles were won by Chinese athletes, Li Xiaoxia and Zhang Jike respectively.

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Google says US is #1 and China is #2. Tied for gold but we have more bronze. I hate that I can't find an actual site to tell me who won what and for what event. Guess its the drawback for browsing on an iPod.
United States is currently on the first spot because you have 1 more gold than China.
If you had been tied for gold, China would have been the first because they have more silver.

For minute-by-minute update, have a look at the official website:
http://www.london2012.com/


The official standing right now:
USA: 21 Gold - 10 Silver - 11 Bronze = 42 Total
China: 20 Gold - 13 Silver - 9 Bronze = 42 Total
South Korea: 9 Gold - 2 Silver - 5 Bronze = 16 Total
United Kingdom: 8 Gold - 6 Silver - 8 Bronze = 21 Total
France: 8 Gold - 5 Silver - 6 Bronze = 19 Total
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Aren't all these rankings, and weightings of medals, a media creation? I thought the IOC position was that there is no such thing as a ranking of nations.
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^^^^^^^^^^
Well for individual countries it's quite nice to keep track.
I know we'd drop in the table but it would make it so much easier if they went on overall numbers.
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Old 08-03-2012, 04:16 PM
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Well for individual countries it's quite nice to keep track.
I know we'd drop in the table but it would make it so much easier if they went on overall numbers.
Some listings do just show a ranking by total medals won.
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Well for individual countries it's quite nice to keep track.
I know we'd drop in the table but it would make it so much easier if they went on overall numbers.
Actually, you wouldn't. If the overall count-only was taken into consideration, Britain would have still been the fourth:
United States: 42 medals
China: 42 medals
Russia: 23 medals
United Kingdom: 22 medals
Japan: 21 medals
Germany: 19 medals
France: 19 medals
South Korea: 16 medals
Australia: 14 medals
Italy: 12 medals

I think the current system is pretty sound because imagine if, say, Armenia won 6 bronze medals and ranked above Germany (who currently has 5 golds): it just wouldn't be fair. Those who win the gold are the best of the best, so it makes sense to base the count on the number of gold medals.
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Old 08-03-2012, 04:23 PM
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I think the current system is pretty sound because imagine if, say, Armenia won 6 bronze medals and ranked above Germany (who currently has 5 golds): it just wouldn't be fair. Those who win the gold are the best of the best, so it makes sense to base the count on the number of gold medals.
Except Germany currently had 19 medals, so they would still beat Armenia. I think this way emphasise that even if you get silver and bronze, you're still almost a looser. Yes getting gold is the aim, but there can be the tiniest margin between gold and silver.

And we are still fourth, no been about it.
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Ok good to see Korea is #3, or they were last time I checked.
So it seems that whoever has the (1)most medals overall as well as the (2) most gold v silver v bronze; and(3) those are ranked as well. I think Im getting the hang of this. Track and field sports start next week, what countries usually dominate those?
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Track and field sports start next week, what countries usually dominate those?
Actually it started this morning, ranges from event to event which country wins.
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Old 08-03-2012, 04:26 PM
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Aren't all these rankings, and weightings of medals, a media creation? I thought the IOC position was that there is no such thing as a ranking of nations.
That sounds likely, though I think it's only natural for people to make the comparisons. I remember being little and asking my parents if we (the US) were "winning the Olympics". They had to break it down for me and explain that it didn't quite work like that.
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Except Germany currently had 19 medals, so they would still beat Armenia. I think this way emphasise that even if you get silver and bronze, you're still almost a looser. Yes getting gold is the aim, but there can be the tiniest margin between gold and silver.

And we are still fourth, no been about it.
Right now, everyone would have beaten Armenia: we don't have a single medal (it sucks, I know).

Put it this way: the Netherlands were almost winners in FIFA World Cup trice (1974, 1978 and 2010), but almost doesn't count, does it? They won silver - and three times, no less, but it hardly equals, say, England's gold in 1966 - even thought that's England's only "medal".

At least, this is my understanding.
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What events are South Korea strong in? They are doing very well - I don't recall how well they finished in the last Olympics.
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They've won a lot of archery medals, apparently it's a national obsession in S Korea.

King Edward III banned football in England in 1349 because it distracted the people from practicing their archery. GB would probably need to do the same thing again to give us any chance of doing anything in archery.
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What events are South Korea strong in? They are doing very well - I don't recall how well they finished in the last Olympics.
Here you can see South Korea's medals
http://www.london2012.com/country/so...ea/medals.html
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Thank u for that link Artemisa, I am giving up on understanding how these medals work. I just saw Kazakstan has 4 medals overall yet they are ahead of Russia who was 23 or 24, simply because all 4 of Kazakstan's medals are gold. That doesn't seem right to me. Anyway, I'm off to work but am recording the diving comp today.
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