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Old 02-19-2011, 10:55 AM
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Well to address some of the issues you mentioned (which I also worried about for some time too) it seem that the VIPs will be in the courtyard and that the rest of the guests will be seated in front of the palace with large televisions to watch what's taking place in the courtyard. From the sketches it looks like the courtyard will be covered with a tent, not sure if the place of the palace with the rest of the guests will be covered though. If it does rain they can always cover the red carpet where Charlene will walk, in the place of the palace with a tent sort of like this, which was done for Princess Alexandra of SWB wedding. About parking I'm not really sure but international guests will probably be brought in bus's from the hotel, and the majority of the guests are from Monaco will prob walk, lets face it Monaco isn't that big lol! For Felipe & Letizia's wedding they had about 1,600 guests and they had to build extra temporary bathroom facilities, so I'm sure they will build extra large bathrooms to accommodate all the people.
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The prince Albert defends the environement and the seas with all the ecosystem, in his last interviews with Patric poivre D'arvor, he said that he is very closed to the oceanograph museum, but I think for you, there is any beautiful wedding without cathedral, palace with his ball room. You must become modern, we are in the XXI century. I also visit the palace of Monaco.We visite some rooms, the others are privat. They are not enough big to receive all the guests. Rainier and Grace made the dinner lunch in the yard. there are many people for the wedding of Prince Albert and Charlene,Point De Vue said there will be the room where there will be the dinner with the 60 privileged guests, and and there will be 38 rounds tables for other guest in the room besides. In the first loor, there will be a room where the guests will wait the brides in drinking Champagne and than there will a ball in a big room called 'Salle de conference';
The enthronement and the funeral of the pape are .outside and during the ceremony then catholic people are outside not inside, and the pape is the head od state of the Vatican but he is also the chief of all the catholic people, and all the people must respect him and he is above the kings and the queens and they must respect him, for us he is the most important man of the world. And the catholic people respect him so the enthronement or funeral people is outside.
I had a cousin who married with a catholic irish man , the wedding was very solemn, My sister attend to the wedding who was very traditional ,It was outside. There are no rule for that.
Ok! Calm down! This will be your so called traditional wedding of the century! There's no need to get angry. It will be beautiful, the best wedding of all! Geez...
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Old 02-19-2011, 05:03 PM
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An outside Royal wedding is such a romantic thing. And with Pr. Albert seeming to be the outdoors type it seems very appropriate. I look forward to seeing how they do this. It will be different from the usual royal wedding which I think is exciting.
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Old 02-19-2011, 05:51 PM
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Princess Caroline married Phillip Junot in the palace courtyard too, and based on the pics, it was a lovely ceremony. Princess Grace, in spite of her reservations about the groom and the future of the relationship, went all out for her eldest daughter's wedding, and succeeded in achieving a solemn and dignified ceremony.

I must say though that for me, the lay-out for Albert's and Charlene's wedding is more picturesque and romantic. For Caroline's wedding, the altar was just outside the Palatine Chapel and thus, they were all facing the wall albeit bedecked with flowers with the Gallery of Hercules and the horseshoe staircase, which may be the most beautiful feature of the palace, to their left.

For Albert, Charlene and their guests, they will be facing the dramatic staircase and the Gallery of Hercules.

The advantage of Caroline's ceremony though vs Charlene's is that Caroline's wedding procession descended from the Gallery of Hercules and the staircase. That would have been so dramatic. Charlene cannot do that based on the sketches because there are seats for the other celebrants or priests on the stairs.
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Old 02-20-2011, 12:47 AM
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It's different because a funeral is held in the cathedral. The coffin is carried outside, so all people can see it. I'm talking about head of state funeral, or some important person.
The enthronement is held outside, yes. But that's is different again from a wedding. Tradional catholic weddings are inside a church. This wedding will be not that traditional. I think Albert wants a big wedding, something different, something extravagant...so he celebrate it outside.
I personally don't agree, for a head of state, to celebrate a wedding outside the cathedral of his country in this case.
I do agree with you on this point. Princess Caroline and Philippe Junot exchanged vows outside in the courtyard of the palace. She is the daughter of the reigning prince, not the crown princess or ruler. Many summer events, concerts and festivities take place in the courtyard. The courtyard lends itself to a more casual setting; the cathedral adds solemnity and ceremony to the wedding, which is appropriate for the ruling prince’s position.
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Does anyone remember where the wedding reception was held for Prince Rainier and Princess Grace? I remember looking at photos, and their reception seemed to be outside too, maybe in the same courtyard. Their wedding was in April, I don't know what the weather was like on that day, cloudy if I remember, then the sun broke through the clouds and shone as Grace Kelly entered the cathedral on the arm of her father, John B. Kelly. Some in Monaco named that type of sunny weather, “Princess Grace Weather.” I hope it is not too hot on Prince Albert’s wedding day. It won’t do to have all of the guests sitting in the hot sun. I remember looking at the TV coverage of the funeral for John Paul II. It was so windy and the guests were exposed to the elements.

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Well to address some of the issues you mentioned (which I also worried about for some time too) it seem that the VIPs will be in the courtyard and that the rest of the guests will be seated in front of the palace with large televisions to watch what's taking place in the courtyard. From the sketches it looks like the courtyard will be covered with a tent, not sure if the place of the palace with the rest of the guests will be covered though. If it does rain they can always cover the red carpet where Charlene will walk, in the place of the palace with a tent sort of like this, which was done for Princess Alexandra of SWB wedding. About parking I'm not really sure but international guests will probably be brought in bus's from the hotel, and the majority of the guests are from Monaco will prob walk, lets face it Monaco isn't that big lol! For Felipe & Letizia's wedding they had about 1,600 guests and they had to build extra temporary bathroom facilities, so I'm sure they will build extra large bathrooms to accommodate all the people.

How odd to be invited to a royal wedding and view at it on a TV screen.

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Why don't you never accept a critic? It's sort of an extravaganza to celebrate in the courtyard of the Palace the wedding of a Souvereing. Think about it. They should do it in the cathedral, that's where catholic people marry. And don't say what you always say: "the cathedral has space for only XXX persons and in the wedding there will be XXXXX guests..."
Is still suspicious for me the way they organize everything.
Maybe she is not catholic but will marry in the catholic church...oops, sorry, catholic courtyard.

Very funny, "the Catholic courtyard". Catholicism is always changing. We have to keep pace.
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Old 02-20-2011, 01:11 AM
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Does anyone remember where the wedding reception was held for Prince Rainier and Princess Grace? I remember looking at photos, and their reception seemed to be outside too, maybe in the same courtyard. Their wedding was in April, I don't know what the weather was like on that day, cloudy if I remember, then the sun broke through the clouds and shone as Grace Kelly entered the cathedral on the arm of her father, John B. Kelly. Some in Monaco named that type of sunny weather, “Princess Grace Weather.” I hope it is not too hot on Prince Albert’s wedding day. It won’t do to have all of the guests sitting in the hot sun. I remember looking at the TV coverage of the funeral for John Paul II. It was so windy and the guests were exposed to the elements.

The wedding reception was held in the palace courtyard.

The book "The Bridesmaids" by Judy Balaban Quine offered a great recollection of the event, as it is by someone who was actually there. Grace, Rainier, some of the family members and the bridesmaids were confined in the space or enclosure of the staircase, which created some sort of privacy.

However, for everyone else in the main courtyard, it was rather chaotic. There weren't any seats nor tables for the guests. The attempt was to make people interact and roam around. But as Judy pointed out, it was so difficult especially for the women with their purses and hats getting food from the buffet and having no tables to place their plates on!
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Old 02-20-2011, 04:32 AM
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It rained the day before the wedding, there was rain and after sunshine and rain and so, there was a firework on the port. T recall my mother,my tantes(the sisters of my mother), my gand mother went to see it, it is not very far from Eze and we didn-t know if it would take place cause the weather, and it taked place, a wonderfull firework, a wonderfull remenber for the little girl I was. An d the to morrow it was fine, sun with a little wind.We watched the ceremony at tv because it was in week and I had school, and we lived in France not in monaco . And for us it was a work day for the adults and school for children.
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Old 02-20-2011, 06:12 AM
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Well, I had some initial reservations about having the wedding in the Courtyard, but if it is anything close to the preliminary sketches I think it is all going to come off very grand, very dramatic and very beautful.

Just because they are not marrying in the Cathedral doesn't mean they are marrying outside the Church...that is what is important to remember.
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Old 02-20-2011, 07:22 AM
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I am agree with you, I think these sketches are true because they are sent by the palace, they are made about what want Prince Albert and Charlene, it is not definitely, I think we will see all that on the wedding day, I had also reservations about the open air wedding, I think " it is an american wedding I prefer a wedding in a church, but when you think about this wedding, I think to Princess Grace who wanted an open air wedding for Caroline, I know it was privat, but there is the chapell in the palace; She always said that her wedding was very hard to support , she would have prefer an other wedding, perhaps she prefered a wedding in open air and Albert thought to this.We do not know.
In Point De vue, they said there are some thinghs which are not yet closed. where to place the bason of the couple, the entry of the princely family in the privat home during the preparation I think they will give nothing untill the wedding.
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Old 02-20-2011, 09:41 AM
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Well to address some of the issues you mentioned (which I also worried about for some time too) it seem that the VIPs will be in the courtyard and that the rest of the guests will be seated in front of the palace with large televisions to watch what's taking place in the courtyard. From the sketches it looks like the courtyard will be covered with a tent, not sure if the place of the palace with the rest of the guests will be covered though. If it does rain they can always cover the red carpet where Charlene will walk, in the place of the palace with a tent sort of like this, which was done for Princess Alexandra of SWB wedding. About parking I'm not really sure but international guests will probably be brought in bus's from the hotel, and the majority of the guests are from Monaco will prob walk, lets face it Monaco isn't that big lol! For Felipe & Letizia's wedding they had about 1,600 guests and they had to build extra temporary bathroom facilities, so I'm sure they will build extra large bathrooms to accommodate all the people.
Thank you Jonc93! I did not get that they were putting the non-vip guests (they'll love that I'm sure! ) in front of the palace and having them watch it on screens. I'm still concerned about the bathrooms though ! Thanks!

Hm, I think as a guest I would not care for that segregation. If they are not important enough to be in the courtyard why invite them at all? I have been to weddings where the closer friends and family are in the church for the ceremony and more distant relatives, etc. are only included for the reception. Still it sometimes causes hurt feelings. Regular weddings are difficult enough to plan. Royal/Princely weddings just sound nightmarish. They run the risk of ticking off an entire country. I have nothing to do with it and still it stresses me out!
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Old 02-20-2011, 10:20 AM
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Nice Matin said that all the important guests will be in the courtyard and the persons who will be on the place will be the native people of Monaco,they will be 3500 around, the place will be closed and they can enter only with a card of invitation. Prince Albert want share his happiness with the people of Monaco, the doors will be opened .
The hotels are very confortable, in a show where they spoke about the hotels which will receive the guests, the director of Hotel of Paris shows a luxury suit who is already rent by guests of the Prince. In Monaco there are hotels which are worth to receive rich persons. There are many fests with balls like red cross balls and balls of the rose, there are the Grand Prix race, tennis race in April where many rich are sleeping during many days. And the time is very fine
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Hi Melina! Just to be sure I am getting this right: it has been announced that all the personal friends, family, members of other royal/princely families (VIP's) will be seated in the courtyard. Added to that Prince Albert is inviting all of Monaco (subjects not those who know him closely) to sit before the palace and be able to see the coverage on big screens?

If that is right then I do like that to include many in the festivities but not all squished together fighting for elbow room in the courtyard !

I have to say I cannot wait to visit Monaco, have wanted to for years. Definitely will have to splurge for one of the best hotels when I go!

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It's that Sweet Hissy again!

Sorry guys I posted a few questions about the wedding vows in another thread and it was suggested I would do better to repeat that here on this thread, so:

"Someone here must know about the wedding vows? Surely they must be in French? I wonder how long the vows are? Anybody here familiar with that? Rainier and Grace's wedding is before my time so I really would be interested to know more about it. (I'm sure CW will put every effort into learning those! )"

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Sorry guys I posted a few questions about the wedding vows in another thread and it was suggested I would do better to repeat that here on this thread, so:

"Someone here must know about the wedding vows? Surely they must be in French? I wonder how long the vows are? Anybody here familiar with that? Rainier and Grace's wedding is before my time so I really would be interested to know more about it. (I'm sure CW will put every effort into learning those! )"

Thanks!
Usually the vows are a very short part of the ceremony. If the wedding was in the cathedral, there would be a celebration of the mass also. Undoubtedly the ceremony will be in French, but I wonder if there will be a mass also? For Catholics, the mass is a high form of prayer and brings blessings and graces upon the wedding vows. Pity if they skip the mass.
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Of course, the wows are in french, at the times of Prince Rainier and Princess Grace, the archibishops asks to if they want marry, and the bride answered Yes. Now, it depends some say long sentences if they want or sometimes they answers only yes. We don't know what the brides will choose. We must wait. In a catholic religious wedding there is a mass in a cathedral or in a open air wedding, my cousin who married with an irish man made an open air wedding had a mass, a catholic event take place in cathedral and in open air.When Pape comes in many lands he made mass in open air, no need a cathedral and for any body it is the same thing
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There are various resources about marriage in French on this site:

Le mariage - Église Catholique en France

The content will be roughly identical, compared to other languages.

I'm wondering whether A & C will have certain parts of the nuptial mass in the Monégasque dialect??
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I hope it is not too hot on Prince Albert’s wedding day. It won’t do to have all of the guests sitting in the hot sun.
That´s why they need the roof for the royals..... remember CP Mette-Marits heavy sunburn after the interview in Germany, here she was also several hours in the full sun. Imagine, that would happen at the wedding -- horrible. The only alternative could be large hats for every guest -- but we still do not yet know the dresscode finally, so I still hope for tiaras (well, I can hope....)


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How odd to be invited to a royal wedding and view at it on a TV screen.
Well, this is the issue on every single royal wedding: if you are invited but placed in row 97 of the church, you won´t have a clear view on the ceremony either.... so in this case you really have the "best seats" in front of the TV screen.

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Hola also has the sketches on their site:
Galería de imágenes - Foto 1 - Los entresijos de la Boda Real de Mónaco
And an article:
Los entresijos de la Boda Real de Mónaco
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Suggestion for the bouquet: Just red roses. Together with her white dress they make the colours of Monaco. And roses where her mother in law's favourite flowers.
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