William and Kate: engagement and relationship rumours and musings 2009


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That is one perception of Kate. I wonder how the lady feels about being called "a doormat" and "used when convenient.":ermm: Given the amount of time that she's invested in her relationship with William, I doubt that she sees herself this way. She's reported to have said "He's lucky to be going out with me." I can't imagine a woman with such a healthy sense of self ever consenting to be a passive hanger-on in a relationship.


I know of a woman who has been the mistress of a single man for over thirty years, she too is single and obviously is perfectly content to go on this way, many people wouldn´t have this point of view but everyone is different.
Kate has "invested" an amount of time, does that mean she expects to receive dividends? Well time will tell, I can´t imgine her saying that he is lucky to be going out with her but then everyone has an opinion of their self worth and if that is hers then fine.
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I feel sorry for Kate. People say many horrible things about her like Waity Katie or something like that. As I heard she tried to find a job in Art Gallery but becouse press and all the paparazzi she can't. And now this press invented nickname Waity Katie. I believe that in St Andrew she has lovely time with William but after that? Brutal reality. She hasn't as wonderful life as many people believe she has.
 
I for one don´t think she has a wonderful life, far from it, but obviously it is a life of her own choosing, she is not being obliged to do anything. Waity Katy is just a name and she does seem to be waiting so it is not that terrible, a bit disrespectful if she does manage to become the wife of Prince William but then there are far worse things to be called than Waity.
Does anyone really think that the only reason Kate doesn´t work is because of the paparazzi? I thought it was because she wanted a very flexible working timetable that would leave her free to accompany Prince William whenever he wanted her to go on holiday or hunting or whatever. Working for the family internet business does just that for her and it is the source of the money she has to support her lifestyle so why not.
 
There is no credible information in the public domain that I am aware of that suggests that there have been extended gaps in her CV.
Way to rewrite history.

Kate graduated from Uni in June 2005. After that there is no indication she did anything but shopping, partying and vacationing for nearly one year and a half.
After much bad press she accepted a part time job selecting belts and shoes for a fashion house (which, as a her boss specified, had to allow her to be available for her boyfriend) and stayed there for about a year (until September or October 2007) , after which she decided she wanted time for herself.
Then a couple of months (not years) ago there is some official mention of her creating a website for her parent's company (ironically, this also came after much bad press about her lifestyle...).

I would call such a CV sporadic to say the least and pretty sub-part for someone who has graduated from a top University with a decent degree. The way you recount it one would believe she has been active non-stop since her graduation. In my opinion, it is the CV a woman who never had any interest in having a career and is content with her current situation.

Now you may choose to believe she has been doing a lot more than that undercover. I personally highly doubt it, my opinion, but I will agree to disagree with you.:flowers:

Also, I subscribe to Jo of Palatine's view that this relationship is now devoid of interest.
I am utterly bored with these two. I have run out of things to say and so, I believe, have most of the people who post here (I say that without malice).
I'll just leave that thread alone unless they break-up or get engaged.:flowers:
 
I agree with you on this point 100% Menarue.
 
Way to rewrite history...
Just because the press did not pick up on when Kate may have started at Jigsaw, or when she may have started working with her parents does not actually mean the dates you are suggesting are in any way accurate, nor are the periods of "time for herself" or "shopping, partying and vacationing"!

Now you may choose to believe she has been doing a lot more than that undercover.

Needless to say, your willingness to place reliance on what the tabloids publish about what Kate might do with her time is very telling. :nonono: But what I find even more amusing seems to be your belief that if the tabloids have not published something, it was either "undercover" or did not happen!

But as I have said, facts (whatever they might be) notwithstanding, you appear to have formed a view, and you are entitled to believe whatever you so desire. :rolleyes:
 
Does anyone really think that the only reason Kate doesn´t work is because of the paparazzi? I thought it was because she wanted a very flexible working timetable that would leave her free to accompany Prince William whenever he wanted her to go on holiday or hunting or whatever.
I would think that Kate knew long before the media and then TRF's that William would be firstly working with the Army before moving to the RAF and would have very little time to spend with her. Apart from the motorcycle jolly, William will get the same amount of time off as anyone else who works, at a normal job.:flowers:
 
and round and round we go :) I must admit as a previous poster said she could take on post grad studies or further uni education of some sort to give her a little more public substance though to be fair as a private citizen no one has the right to expect her to do anything at the moment. Still it would be nice if she was sat in an engagement interview she was able to say she had pursued something other than selling plastic tiaras and napkins.
 
Just because the press did not pick up on when Kate may have started at Jigsaw, or when she may have started working with her parents does not actually mean the dates you are suggesting are in any way accurate, nor are the periods of "time for herself" or "shopping, partying and vacationing"!
The duration of her stay at Jigsaw is not a matter of speculation.
We know exactly when she started working and when she left. It was corroborated by reputable news-sources, by her colleagues at Jigsaw, and by pictures.
I.e., soon after it was announced she was taking the position we started having daily pictures of her going to work (except during the hiatus when she took a compassionate leave -to go clubbing it seemed). Before that we had daily pictures of her wandering around London, shopping, having lunch, in short, not holding a 9 to 5 job.
When she quit some colleagues talked about the farewell party and then we stopped having pics of her going to work. Pretty straightforwards.

You are right that it is unclear when she started to work for her parents or what she is still doing for them (if anything at all). I never implied I knew the exact timeline. However, the mention of her working for them appeared on their website a couple months ago.
Before that, no indication whatsoever of her having a notable role within the company. Since they saw fit to add her on their website alongside the rest of their employees only a couple of months ago, I think it isn't totally unreasonable to assume she wasn't on the website before that because she had no steady role within the company.
Needless to say, your willingness to place reliance on what the tabloids publish about what Kate might do with her time is very telling.
I find a bit ironic that you chide me for supposedly making assumptions about Kate when you are making assumptions about me yourself.

I rely on tabloids? A quick browse through my posts would tell you just how reliable I think tabloids are.
The info I have mentioned have been reported in various news sources, such as AP, BBC, broadsheet newspapers, VF, etc and yes, tabloids too. And, as already mentioned, I also trust pictures, which of course do not tell the whole story but help back up a piece of information and build a chronology.

A propo of tabloids, while they do write a lot of nonsense, they do get some things right.
For example: The Daily Mail and News of the World, as trashy as they are, often know in advance when and where the young royals go on holidays. The DM was right about Harry and Chelsy going to Mauritius, to give you a recent example. The 2007 break-up was revealed by the Sun, etc.
Some of the people who have come in contact with Kate or William or Harry also openly speak to tabloids and/or sell them stories (hence various royal scandals). Not all their sources are imaginary.
If tabloids where just systematically wrong, it would make everything easier.
The reason why they are so potentially harmful is because they mix hard facts and fiction.

Believing that everything that is printed or said is a lie is just as naive as believing everything is true.
 
Okay, I think we have established that no one has a true idea of what Kate has been up to during her relationship with William except for the parties directly involved.

Moving on...
 
I was just thinking that maybe not only William, but also Kate is not ready to get married. Dating a prince might be a lot of fan: all the perks being close to royal but no duties and obligation of royal spouse. Who knows maybe it is Kate who prefers not to enter royal family. Just a thought.:whistling:
 
I was just thinking that maybe not only William, but also Kate is not ready to get married. Dating a prince might be a lot of fan: all the perks being close to royal but no duties and obligation of royal spouse. Who knows maybe it is Kate who prefers not to enter royal family. Just a thought.:whistling:

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If Kate thinks that way very soon she will be called official mistress and not the "girlfriend" which would be a shame for a young, rich, beautiful young lady. It remains to be seen if she will get this title or that of royal bride, one or the other must be looming, or of course another alternative would be that she returns to real life and gets on with it.
 
and round and round we go :) I must admit as a previous poster said she could take on post grad studies or further uni education of some sort to give her a little more public substance though to be fair as a private citizen no one has the right to expect her to do anything at the moment. Still it would be nice if she was sat in an engagement interview she was able to say she had pursued something other than selling plastic tiaras and napkins.
Those plastic tiaras and napkins have paid for alot. I wouldn't knock the vehicle that affords her family a very comfortable lifestyle that her parents are blessed to be able to give to their loved ones. It's gratuitous remarks like this that invalidate 99.9% of the pap I read hurled against Kate Middleton.
 
I was just thinking that maybe not only William, but also Kate is not ready to get married. Dating a prince might be a lot of fan: all the perks being close to royal but no duties and obligation of royal spouse. Who knows maybe it is Kate who prefers not to enter royal family. Just a thought.:whistling:
I read just that a few years ago. I also believe it is a mutual decision because neither of them is ready to be a parent. The pressure is on for an heir the second they marry. Confident in my relationship as I believe she is, I certainly would be in no rush to give up any more of my freedom while still young.
 
I read just that a few years ago. I also believe it is a mutual decision because neither of them is ready to be a parent. The pressure is on for an heir the second they marry. Confident in my relationship as I believe she is, I certainly would be in no rush to give up any more of my freedom while still young.
The moment any announcement is made, life or any freedom for Kate stops! Can anyone blame her for wanting to hold on to that for a while longer?:ermm:





Written by a lazy good for nothing, who has never been in paid employment and has therefore wasted the exceedingly good education she was lucky enough to have had provided for her!:D
 
The moment any announcement is made, life or any freedom for Kate stops! Can anyone blame her for wanting to hold on to that for a while longer?:ermm:

Absolutely. Could not agree more.
 
Those plastic tiaras and napkins have paid for alot. I wouldn't knock the vehicle that affords her family a very comfortable lifestyle that her parents are blessed to be able to give to their loved ones. It's gratuitous remarks like this that invalidate 99.9% of the pap I read hurled against Kate Middleton.


We have had views that wonder if she will inherit the family business, I think that we should come down to earth, it is selling plastic tiaras and napkins on the internet not Tiffany´s. It is apparently giving them a nice living. I really don´t know as much as you about their financial affairs but they do seem to have done well out of selling these party products and have moved up the social ladder as we can see from photos of their former residence although I have to agree that taking pictures of paper napkins doesn´t seem quite appropriate for a girl with her University education, but then becoming the next Queen of England doesn´t seem appropriate to me either, but you never know. As someone said previously, boring is good when compared to some of the scandals that have plagued the BRF in the last few years.
 
Once again, no one knows for sure how Kate has spent her time over the years. Posts continuing to argue this point have been and will be removed.
 
Kate is in a no win situation here. Getting a traditional job is problematic as any firm she worked for would be besieged with the media hoping for a story and a photo, causing all sorts of problems for any other employees with regards to building accesss, stress levels and transportation issues not to mention loss of productivity for the firm. I think she is smart to work for the family business away from the glare of the media. If she does choose to marry William, I think it will be around the time she is ready to start a family. I can't imagine that they don't have some kind of understanding on where the relationship is going, and a rough timetable worked out if they are thinking marriage.
 
If she does choose to marry William, I think it will be around the time she is ready to start a family. I can't imagine that they don't have some kind of understanding on where the relationship is going, and a rough timetable worked out if they are thinking marriage.

I think it is a real shame that they might have to plan their lives this way. They should be able to marry and enjoy each other's company as husband and wife for as long as they like before having children when they choose to. Yet as soon as William marries the public's attention will be focused on his wife's waistline. I think it is gross invasion of their privacy, but then the Royal lifestyle and the relationship between the RF and the public are strange and un-natural and anachronistic, IMO. Yet compelling. :hamster:
 
I have yet to hear that Catherine Middleton is trying to become an actress or lead the life of one.
 
My answer was to the remarkable physical resemblance between the two. I have read that Koo Stark was a very very nice person and that even Princess Anne liked her, and that would be certainly be a good start to aspire to becoming a member of the BRF.
Her downfall was an erotic movie, note, not pornographic.
I remember Kate modelling at an underwear fashion show but times have changed although I admit the two events cannot in anyway be thought alike.
 
Are there pictures on the forum showing Kate modelling?I can't believe she did that!!Perhaps this had happened before she met her Prince.Any information about that?
 
Are there pictures on the forum showing Kate modelling?I can't believe she did that!!Perhaps this had happened before she met her Prince.Any information about that?

She modelled underwear at her University fashion show and there were pictures of her walking up the catwalk with Prince William in the front row....
I think it was about that time that she first attracted his attention. :whistling:
 
It was a charity fashion parade put on by St Andrew's students, the models were all students. It wasn't the first time that William saw her, she lived in the same student accomodation as he did ( different floors) they had friends in common, plus they were in the same course. At the time of the fashion parade Kate was dating another student ( he was tracked down by the media but won't talk about her, other than to say she's a lovely person) but the story went that William was smitten by her and paid 500pounds to book a table at the charity fashion parade as she was going to be in it.
 
Well there we are, her first recorded charity work, and she managed to raise at the minimum £500 for parading in underwear. Good for her.
 
Thank you all for the information :) Now I hope you're not going to tell me that she has run around the University drunk and naked :rolleyes: (I know there's such a...hmmm..."tradition" in some Universities :D)
 
The Daily Mail must be desperate to put on such a silly piece. Koo Stark and Kate Milddleton doesn't look alike at all. It's grasping straws to compare them just because they both have brown hair. I haven't seen any new photo of Kate for months. And with William in training, there is very little on him too. DM might as well take the comparison a step further and bring in Andrew and William in the piece. They would have more in common being princes, second-in-line, in millitary, flying....etc.
 
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