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Old 01-06-2016, 10:43 PM
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I have kind of a crazy thought- but it occurred to me while watching Ant and Dec Meet the Prince, that Kate's agenda is shaping up to be almost exactly the agenda of the Prince's Trust- lots of investment in young people.

He says he hopes someone takes it over- is it possible that Kate is being groomed for that? As Princess of Wales and then Queen, she would be high profile enough to head it.


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I think the Cambridge's and Prince Harry will be involved with The Prince's Trust, but I also think Charles will remain an active participant in the Trust.
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Old 01-06-2016, 11:18 PM
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I honestly think if anyone takes over it will be Harry. When Kate joined her husband and Harry's trust Harry kind of got pushed off to the side a bit. When his dad is king and his brother is POW, he will need a more specific role IMO. I see him taking over the trust, in the way that Edward has slowly taken over the DOE awards from his dad, or in Sweden how Maddie is being groomed to take over Childhood from her mother.
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Old 01-07-2016, 12:02 AM
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Harry hasn't been really pushed to the side for WKH's foundation. He goes to the charity forums when available. The Harry Potter Studios and Shawn the Sheep/Batfa events were for the charity forums. The foundation set up the endeavor fund and helped sponsor Harry's Invictus games.


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Old 01-07-2016, 02:48 AM
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Well if Charles stays at the helm after he becomes King then there won't need to be a replacement for a couple of decades, assuming he's blessed w/ Windsor - Montbatten longevity - so perhaps Prince George, Princess Charlotte or Harry's offspring will have an interest in grandpa's trust when the need arises leaving Harry & future spouse & William & Catherine free to manage their own foundation.
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Old 01-07-2016, 04:39 AM
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In my humble opinion The Duchess of Cambridge will take a supportive role much more like that of The Late Queen Mother in future years. I doubt her parenting days are behind her and whilst engagements and roles will increase, that may be the role she concentrates on in in the foreseeable future.
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Old 01-07-2016, 04:43 AM
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Harry hasn't been really pushed to the side for WKH's foundation. He goes to the charity forums when available. The Harry Potter Studios and Shawn the Sheep/Batfa events were for the charity forums. The foundation set up the endeavor fund and helped sponsor Harry's Invictus games.
I've never seen Harry being pushed to the side either. Under the foundation, there are three main categories for their charities and it seems like each of them have their own main focus. Kate has the youth area mostly, Will has the conservation area and Harry's definitely got the military covered. Of course, all three of them work together closely on this. Not too long ago as Harry was completing his stint with wildlife conservation in Africa, William announced that Harry is now an ambassador for the United for Wildlife aspect of the foundation.

Like the Prince's Trust, I expect to see the foundation grow over the years and W&K&H to continue working closely together on it.
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Old 01-07-2016, 04:48 AM
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I don't believe PH will be pushed to anyone's side lines. This is a young man who once famously sad that his role in life was to support his brother. PH has a role and that is ever evolving. He is in my humble opinion one of the most popular and respected members of the family at the moment.
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Old 01-07-2016, 04:59 AM
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... and the epitome of what a Prince Charming should be like. He's finding his niche in the world and doing so admirably in my book so far.
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Old 02-01-2016, 08:44 PM
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I would like to see WKH all become full time working royals. If cost or overall number of current full time royals is the issue, the Queen's cousins could be retired, and paved a decent pension by HM.
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Old 02-01-2016, 09:23 PM
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I would like to see WKH all become full time working royals. If cost or overall number of current full time royals is the issue, the Queen's cousins could be retired, and paved a decent pension by HM.
That's pretty much around the corner now.
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Old 02-01-2016, 10:07 PM
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I would like to see WKH all become full time working royals. If cost or overall number of current full time royals is the issue, the Queen's cousins could be retired, and paved a decent pension by HM.
Why should she have to pay them to do nothing?

What about Charles? Does he want to pay the Gloucester's forever to do nothing and they are only a few years older than he is. If they are to be retired what message does that say about Charles and Camilla?
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Old 02-01-2016, 10:15 PM
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I think rather than a grand shake 'em ups and moving some into full time positions and sidelining others that do a substantial amount of work is not a very good idea. It gives the illusion of the BRF being "broken" and needs to be "fixed". Off with the old and on with the new all at once will be very noticeable and rumors would fly and the Daily Fail would cackle with glee.

We've been seeing a slow transition over the past couple of years and it will continue to be gradual and I would wager, still be gradual after Charles ascends the throne. Let nature take its course.
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What now for William: Future Duties, Roles and Responsibilities

We got lot of answers in 2105 about William's preparation for the future.

We heard from Alistair Martin, Duchy Secretary and Keeper of the Records. Succession – although rarely spoken of directly because of the sensitivity of the subject – is not far from anyone’s mind. But when Prince Charles becomes King, his son, Prince William, will become Duke of Cornwall.

Alistair Martin, who spends most of his working week in London, said Prince William, the Duke of Cambridge, had attended the twice yearly Duchy Council meetings at which policy and strategy are discussed. “Part of my job is really to keep on talking with the Duke of Cambridge, trying, I think, to continue with the process of familiarisation because no one knows when succession is going to happen” he said.

“The Duke of Cambridge expects to be the next Duke of Cornwall and at that time, if I am still around, it will fall to me to support him. I meet with him on a regular basis and brief him and respond to questions from him and seek his views, particularly on things that are long term projects. So, of course, does his father, as any father would with a son.

A lot of programmes we are starting now are projects that will proceed for many decades and which the Duke of Cambridge will, no doubt, be involved with.”

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William is also getting up to speed with the workings of Whitehall. We learned from the BBC he is regularly briefed on government business

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The BBC has learnt that the Duke of Cambridge does receive Cabinet papers. He is given them occasionally.

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Prince William is given the gov documents to help him understand the workings of Whitehall and to prepare him for when he is King.

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Cabinet Office: "The Duke of Cambridge is a senior member of the royal family and future heir to the throne and therefore of course ...

Peter Hunt ‏@BBCPeterHunt
....it is appropriate that he is regularly briefed on government business".


Plus he did 9 investitures last year and attended an incoming State Banquet from China.

I think he has all his basses covered imo, in addition to regular royal 'work'
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Old 02-02-2016, 12:49 PM
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Yes, I would agree. Part of the reason the monarchy survives is that it moves cautiously. We'll gradually see the younger generation do more and the older generation do less.

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We've been seeing a slow transition over the past couple of years and it will continue to be gradual and I would wager, still be gradual after Charles ascends the throne. Let nature take its course.
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Old 02-02-2016, 01:31 PM
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I agree with both of you. The transition has been ongoing just at a slower pace than the press and some royal watchers expect. HM and the DoE are scaling back their own activities and travel with Charles/Camilla are taking on more of the foreign travel ones. William is becoming more involved with the royal duties that he'll assume one day.
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Old 02-02-2016, 06:12 PM
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IMO William, Kate or Harry could be full-time royals and have a workload similar to the Queen, Prince Philip, Andrew, Edward or Sophie if they wanted but they choose not to. My theory is that they choose not to because once they are in full-time there's no getting out - they, especially William or Catherine, will be in it for the rest of their lives.

If my theory is correct I can see why they are sowing their wild oats, so to speak, before becoming fully entrenched in The Firm but I think that one advantage to them becoming full-time royals in the next few years, particularly William and Kate, is that they will eventually have the Duchy of Cornwall's income at their disposal and hopefully William will be willing to take on some of the Charles' patronages/duties because otherwise Charles is going to have to make some tough choices when he becomes King if he has to bring over all of his Prince of Wales duties and responsibilities and execute them and resource them when he becomes King.
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IMO William, Kate or Harry could be full-time royals and have a workload similar to the Queen, Prince Philip, Andrew, Edward or Sophie if they wanted but they choose not to. My theory is that they choose not to because once they are in full-time there's no getting out - they, especially William or Catherine, will be in it for the rest of their lives.

If my theory is correct I can see why they are sowing their wild oats, so to speak, before becoming fully entrenched in The Firm but I think that one advantage to them becoming full-time royals in the next few years, particularly William and Kate, is that they will eventually have the Duchy of Cornwall's income at their disposal and hopefully William will be willing to take on some of the Charles' patronages/duties because otherwise Charles is going to have to make some tough choices when he becomes King if he has to bring over all of his Prince of Wales duties and responsibilities and execute them and resource them when he becomes King.
I think it's not wild oats, but time with the kiddies while they are young. And I think previous generations have said "Take the time. I could not and I regret it." JMO.
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Old 02-02-2016, 07:03 PM
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The Royal family are loyal to each other. HMQ asked Princess Alexandra and The Gloucesters to give up the life they planned and work for her; she asked the Duke of Kent to take on royal duties, even when he was fulltime army - they have given loyal service and frankly, it makes me cross that people think that these loyal servants to the crown should be discarded.

It wont happen. I don't care (carefully reworded here) what the media put out there, it wont happen.

The Queen wont tell them to go and neither will Charles. If they want to retire, that's different.

I find it really peculiar that this attitude prevails when there is no question of a 90 yr old Queen being told to abdicate and the US (for example) are thinking that a 60+ yr old president is ok because experience is valued.

If its pretty pictures of young people that's needed, they can be found on the celebrity pages. We aren't talking about celebrities, we are talking about representatives of the people of the UK et al.
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Old 02-24-2016, 04:11 AM
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I'm thinking that a big vital point here is missing as far as William and his low numbers as far as royal engagements and duties. Its been stated over and over that William, himself, doesn't want to be a full time royal. Its been stated that William's employment with EAAA is lackadaisical at best and people have to cover for him.

This is exactly how things were planned out to be. Its not that William doesn't want to be a full time royal, its been decided that he isn't needed to be a full time royal and that comes from his father and his grandmother who, when you think about it, hold all the cards to how things are going to work. If either Charles or the Queen thought that William should be a full time royal, that's exactly what he would be.

With EAAA, it has always been the arrangement that as welcome that William is to their crew, it was understood that they would work together to ensure that William's other responsibilities in his life could be met.

Neither EAAA or The Firm owes any accounting to how they run things and what arrangements are made or how things are scheduled and carried out to the general public.

Basically, all that is happening with the "workshy" stories and the hours he's worked or hasn't worked is pure speculation on how things *might* be.
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Old 02-24-2016, 05:24 AM
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This is exactly how things were planned out to be. Its not that William doesn't want to be a full time royal, its been decided that he isn't needed to be a full time royal and that comes from his father and his grandmother who, when you think about it, hold all the cards to how things are going to work. If either Charles or the Queen thought that William should be a full time royal, that's exactly what he would be.
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I think it is the opposite. It is William who had decided not to be a full time royal.

William said as much in the Katie Couric interview in 2012.

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I’m still trying to decide [about another Royal Air Force tour of duty]. It’s a really difficult one because I really enjoy my time in the Air Force, and I’d love to continue it,” he said. “But the pressures of my other life are building. And fighting them off, or balancing the two of them, has proven quite difficult.”
William has always been labeled a reluctant royal.

He was originally scheduled to leave the military in 2008 but kept continuing his tours of duty.

IMO, William does not want to be a full time royal. He has been dragging his feet.

His supporters continue to make excuses and blame Charles and the Queen but it is William who does not want to be a full time royal.
(Osipi not you personally.)

From the book, Monarchy, The Royal Family at Work, by Robert Hardman

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The Prince [of Wales] has always made it clear that his sons will not be shoved into royal duties against their will. Having had his own education and career mapped out by a committee involving everyone from the Archbishop of Canterbury to the Prime Minister, he remains determined that Princes William and Harry should follow their instincts and their own sense of duty rather than some dusty blueprint
Several people have tried to use the excuse there is not enough money but I think that was only a one time event after the royal wedding and an attempt by a friendly employee at CH to help William get what he wants.

On several occasions William has hinted he bumps heads with his father.

IMO, William thinks he is 'popular' so he can do what he wants and the 'public' will support him. Well the media has turned against him and they will cause the public to turn against him.
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